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Message no. 1
From: "St. Jean, Ricky" <stjeanr@*******.CANADOREC.ON.CA>
Subject: Re: Regeneration answering all
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 14:58:00 PDT
> Maybe it doesn't in the "Dracula" movies, but it does in SR... though I've
> got no reference for vamps, in particular, shapeshifters end up naked when
> they change. Look at Striper, for example.

It states in SR2 that a vampires do have their clothes change into mist with
them. As soon as I get my rules back i will quote it. Striper was naked
after she changed because she was a shapeshifter not a vampire in mist form.
She went from 65 kg human to a 175kg tiger. BIG mass difirence. Her
clothing tore from the size difference, not just jalling through her body.

On vampires and cyber the real problem it installation. The
regeneration power is far to fast for accurate surgery on a vampire.

The reason that the aura is changed is that cyberware changes a person.
Look at the effects of having wired3. Player 1 says boo. Wired3says
quickdraw/Boom!!. The reason that essence doesn't return after removal is
that the aura is scarred. Scars do not go away. Ask 3rd degree burn
victims.
Cyberware is a third degree burn to the aura.

Answer to the spell halting a vampires metabolism. What if it simply slowed
down the metabolism to a slower rate like monks do. It really doesn't
matter anyway. The vampires are for Gm's only. Vampires cannot survive a
strong team of runners. Unless they are level 10 initiates. If your are
throwing these against your players then you do not want them to survive
anyway.

my 0.02?


Ricky
"It's not a question of being paranoid, the question
is are you paranoid enough"
-strange days
<<<<<stjeanr@*******.CANADORE.ON.CA>>>>>
Message no. 2
From: Robert Watkins <bob@**.NTU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Regeneration answering all
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 09:59:26 +0930
St. Jean, Ricky wrote:
> It states in SR2 that a vampires do have their clothes change into mist with
> them. As soon as I get my rules back i will quote it. Striper was naked
> after she changed because she was a shapeshifter not a vampire in mist form.
> She went from 65 kg human to a 175kg tiger. BIG mass difirence. Her
> clothing tore from the size difference, not just jalling through her body.

Going from 65kg to 175kg is a smaller difference than going from 65kg to 65
grams...

> The reason that the aura is changed is that cyberware changes a person.
> Look at the effects of having wired3. Player 1 says boo. Wired3says
> quickdraw/Boom!!. The reason that essence doesn't return after removal is
> that the aura is scarred. Scars do not go away. Ask 3rd degree burn
> victims.
> Cyberware is a third degree burn to the aura.

No, it isn't. Read "Cybertechnology", please.

--
Robert Watkins bob@**.ntu.edu.au
Real Programmers never work 9 to 5. If any real programmers
are around at 9 am, it's because they were up all night.
*** Finger me for my geek code ***
Message no. 3
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Regeneration answering all
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:48:58 +0100
St. Jean, Ricky said on 19 Oct 95...

> It states in SR2 that a vampires do have their clothes change into mist with
> them.

No it doesn't... SR2, page 219 does not mention clothign at all in the
Mist Form power description, and neither does Paranormal Animals of
Europe. I say it's a question of use it the way you like it...

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Message no. 4
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Regeneration answering all
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:48:58 +0100
Robert Watkins said on 20 Oct 95...

> Going from 65kg to 175kg is a smaller difference than going from 65kg to 65
> grams...

Do you mean when going into mist form? I don't think anyone ever said
there was a mass difference... maybe the total mass of the mist is also 65
kg, like when you boil a kilogram of liquid water you end up with a
kilogram of gaseous water (IOW: steam :), though the volume of the former
is a liter and of the latter it's almost 2,000 liters.

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Message no. 5
From: Robert Watkins <bob@**.NTU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Regeneration answering all
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 00:47:43 +0930
Gurth wrote:
>
> Robert Watkins said on 20 Oct 95...
>
> > Going from 65kg to 175kg is a smaller difference than going from 65kg to 65
> > grams...
> kilogram of gaseous water (IOW: steam :), though the volume of the former
> is a liter and of the latter it's almost 2,000 liters.

Typically, mist form is meant to be human sized... so the volume is
constant.

--
Robert Watkins bob@**.ntu.edu.au
Real Programmers never work 9 to 5. If any real programmers
are around at 9 am, it's because they were up all night.
*** Finger me for my geek code ***
Message no. 6
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Regeneration answering all
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 10:22:56 +0100
Robert Watkins said on 21 Oct 95...

> > kilogram of gaseous water (IOW: steam :), though the volume of the former
> > is a liter and of the latter it's almost 2,000 liters.
>
> Typically, mist form is meant to be human sized... so the volume is
> constant.

I never thought about it that way... If it is the same size as the
creature, yes it would probably have much less mass. I don't know if I
like that, though... I think I would go with the same mass, more volume
idea.

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