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Message no. 1
From: Erik S Jameson <esj@***.UUG.ARIZONA.EDU>
Subject: Relavancy of 2nd Hand fighters
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 19:04:55 -0700
Basically, I am finding this whole discussion to be rather irrelevant.
There is a lost of conflicting information about Mig and F series
planes. But it doens't really matter, ESPECIALLY IN THE REAL WORLD!!
Have we all forgotten that the "Evil Empire" has fallen? The chances
that our best fighter planes and pilots will go up against Russia's best
fighter planes and pilots is slim and none, and Slim just left town. In
this post-cold war era, it simply will not happen.

Erik, a.k.a. the Whistler

PS: Yes, my thinking does include minor powers such as Syria, Iraq, Iran,
and the members of the Commonwealth of Former Soviet States.
Message no. 2
From: "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Relavancy of 2nd Hand fighters
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 21:07:02 -0500
It is required by a little known law that at least once every six months,
we must have a 4-day flame-war about aircrafts. It's about four months
for ammunition.

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Message no. 3
From: Gareth Owen <glowen1@*****.NHS.GOV.UK>
Subject: Re: Relavancy of 2nd Hand fighters
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 13:28:03 +0100
Our Fearless Leader wrote:
> It is required by a little known law that at least once every six months,
> we must have a 4-day flame-war about aircrafts. It's about four months
> for ammunition.
>
<.sig cut>

What's the period for aircraft ammunition? :-)

(30mm APFSDSDUIAPHESHT anyone?)

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Message no. 4
From: Alex van der Kleut <sommers@*****.UMICH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Relavancy of 2nd Hand fighters
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 09:49:49 -0400
The post I originally put up, (which I think was a reply to a few
others), was about the stupid way some governments work military hardware
distributions. Wonder how the rigger of the group gets a fully working
Panzer? Maybee he bought it from a foreign gov't or corp and they
"forgot" to take the weapons off. A GM of mine who played in a different
campaign always wondered how gangs got assault rifles. In his campaign, I
had a buddy in the local army who sold stuff to me. I then sold it at
(at a significant profit) to another character, who in turn gave it to a
gang to protect his drug lab. This, and the story about the Mig-17 are
meant to show how totally absurd situations can and do arise in real life
as well as gaming. And they can definately be used against those pesky
characters who are getting just a little to well known.
Message no. 5
From: Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@***.NEU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Relavancy of 2nd Hand fighters
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 10:13:29 -0400
>>>>> "Gareth" == Gareth Owen <glowen1@*****.NHS.GOV.UK>
writes:

Gareth> <.sig cut>
Gareth> What's the period for aircraft ammunition? :-)
Gareth> (30mm APFSDSDUIAPHESHT anyone?)

The first time I read that I saw: APFSDSDUAPESHIT :).

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Message no. 6
From: Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@***.NEU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Relavancy of 2nd Hand fighters
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 10:17:45 -0400
>>>>> "Erik" == Erik S Jameson <esj@***.UUG.ARIZONA.EDU>
writes:

Erik> Basically, I am finding this whole discussion to be rather
Erik> irrelevant. There is a lost of conflicting information about Mig and
Erik> F series planes. But it doens't really matter, ESPECIALLY IN THE
Erik> REAL WORLD!! Have we all forgotten that the "Evil Empire" has fallen?

Not to hear the hard-liners talk about it.

Erik> The chances that our best fighter planes and pilots will go up
Erik> against Russia's best fighter planes and pilots is slim and none, and
Erik> Slim just left town. In this post-cold war era, it simply will not
Erik> happen.

The breakup of the Soviet Union has left a political vacuum in Eastern
Europe and Western Asia, and as we all know, nature abhors a vacuum. Maybe
it won't happen today, but the political situation in that part of the
world is changing rapidly, and almost anything could happen in the next 10
years.

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Message no. 7
From: Paolo Marcucci <marcucci@***.TS.ASTRO.IT>
Subject: Re: Relavancy of 2nd Hand fighters (fwd)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 15:23:28 MET
>
> It is required by a little known law that at least once every six months,
> we must have a 4-day flame-war about aircrafts. It's about four months
> for ammunition.
>
> ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@*******.mankato.msus.edu

And two weeks for grounding :)

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Message no. 8
From: Tim Skirvin <tskirvin@***.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Relavancy of 2nd Hand fighters
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 17:26:02 -0500
> It is required by a little known law that at least once every six
> months, we must have a 4-day flame-war about aircrafts. It's about
> four months

But how often is it for guns?

Besides, wasn't the last one just 3 months ago?

--
Tim Skirvin (tskirvin@***.uiuc.edu)
Message no. 9
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@****.CAIS.COM>
Subject: Re: Relavancy of 2nd Hand fighters
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 19:29:16 -0400
On Tue, 18 Oct 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote:

> It is required by a little known law that at least once every six months,
> we must have a 4-day flame-war about aircrafts. It's about four months
> for ammunition.

I've suffered through more than my share of these airplane wars,
not to mention the ammuniton or the various magic threads that inevitably
degenerate into flaming about the nature of magic and how Paul Hume is a
mage. But this one seems different...I may be crazy, but I think there
might actually be some signal in with all that noise -- and it is my
sincere hope that some of this signal can be turned into some good
write-ups for NERPS: Shadowlore II.

-------------========== J.D. Falk <jdfalk@****.com> =========-------------
| NERPS Project Leader | Assorted current NERPS project files |
| (Editor & General Motivator) | ftp://cais.com/pub/jdfalk/nerps-proj |
----------------========== Finger for Geek Code ==========----------------
Message no. 10
From: "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Relavancy of 2nd Hand fighters
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 18:36:42 -0500
On Wed, 19 Oct 1994, J.D. Falk wrote:

> I may be crazy, but I think there
> might actually be some signal in with all that noise -- and it is my
> sincere hope that some of this signal can be turned into some good
> write-ups for NERPS: Shadowlore II.

Heh, even before I got to the sig, I knew who wrote this message based on
the content.

You are getting too predictable, JD :-)

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Message no. 11
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@****.CAIS.COM>
Subject: Re: Relavancy of 2nd Hand fighters
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 19:57:00 -0400
On Wed, 19 Oct 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote:

> Heh, even before I got to the sig, I knew who wrote this message based on
> the content.
>
> You are getting too predictable, JD :-)

That might make a good NERPS submission, with a little editing.
Yeah! Submit! SUBMIT TO MY BOOK! Yes! Yes! Put it in NERPS! Put
EVERYTHING in NERPS! There is NOTHING you can discuss that can't go into
NERPS! NERPS IS THE ALL-ONE ALL-POWERFUL EVERYTHING BOOK OH YES!

--
J.D. Falk <jdfalk@****.com>
Ordained Prophet of the Book of NERPS
Message no. 12
From: Tim Skirvin <tskirvin@***.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Relavancy of 2nd Hand fighters
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 19:56:28 -0500
> That might make a good NERPS submission, with a little
> editing. Yeah! Submit! SUBMIT TO MY BOOK! Yes! Yes! Put it in
> NERPS! Put
> EVERYTHING in NERPS! There is NOTHING you can discuss that can't
> go into NERPS! NERPS IS THE ALL-ONE ALL-POWERFUL EVERYTHING BOOK
> OH YES!

I assume this also goes in NERPS?

*ducking a thwap*

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Tim Skirvin (tskirvin@***.uiuc.edu)
Message no. 13
From: "D.O.A. SECURITY" <MKNABUSCH@****.ALBION.EDU>
Subject: Re: Relavancy of 2nd Hand fighters
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 21:32:32 -0500
Nerps for Henchmen.
How's that J.D.?
Message no. 14
From: Doctor Doom <jch8169@*******.TAMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Relavancy of 2nd Hand fighters
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 21:28:04 -0500
Von J.D. Falk, (Self-)Ordained Prophet of the Book of NERPS

> That might make a good NERPS submission, with a little editing.
> Yeah! Submit! SUBMIT TO MY BOOK! Yes! Yes! Put it in NERPS! Put
> EVERYTHING in NERPS! There is NOTHING you can discuss that can't go into
> NERPS! NERPS IS THE ALL-ONE ALL-POWERFUL EVERYTHING BOOK OH YES!

Fade In.

J.D. Falk is seen before a solitary computer terminal in a darkened room,
alternating between madly typing and raving about submissions, NERPS, and
names and telephone numbers of other people who used the stuff.

A cloaked figure enters the room behind Falk and shakes his head sadly.
"Dear me ... another one."

Looking directly at the camera, he admonishes, "Stand back ... and kids,
don't try this at home; I am a professional."

Reaching about, he withdraws a rather perplexed looking carp.

He then holds the bewildered fish aloft and entreats the Heavens,

"Oh Lord, bless this, Thy carp, that with it Thou mayest THWAP
Thy enemies into tiny bits . . . in Thy mercy."

TTTTTTTTTT HH HH WW WW AA PPPPPPP || ||
TT HH HH WW WW AAAA PP PP || ||
TT HH HH WW WW AA AA PP PP || ||
TT HHHHHHHH WW WW WW AA AA PPPPPPP || ||
TT HH HH WW WW WW AAAAAAAA PP || ||
TT HH HH WWWWWWWW AA AA PP
TT HH HH WW WW AA AA PP .. ..

[ wet carp noise ]


Colonel Count von Hohenzollern und von Doom, DMSc, DSc, PhD.

Doom Technologies & Weapon Systems -- Dark Thought Publications
>>> Working on solutions best left in the dark.
<<<
[ Doctor Doom : jch8169@*******.tamu.edu ]
^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^
"Attack, attack, and when in doubt, ATTACK!" -- Frederick the Great of Prussia
Message no. 15
From: Jason Larke <jlarke@**.ITD.UMICH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Relavancy of 2nd Hand fighters
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 22:48:07 -0400
In message <199410200244.WAA09476@**.itd.umich.edu>you write:
>
>J.D. Falk is seen before a solitary computer terminal in a darkened room,
>alternating between madly typing and raving about submissions, NERPS, and
>names and telephone numbers of other people who used the stuff.
>
>Looking directly at the camera, he admonishes, "Stand back ... and kids,
>don't try this at home; I am a professional."
>
> [ wet carp noise ]
>
>
> Colonel Count von Hohenzollern und von Doom, DMSc, DSc, P

<most of sig deleted>

In light of the excessive use of one-syllable words such as
"stuff" and "kids", can we truly accept this as an authentic
post from Doom? I fear we must face the unpleasant possibility
that our dear Colonel has fallen upon some hardship with his
vocabulary, or, worse, the security and privacy of his account.

<snicker>

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
|Jason Larke- jlarke@*****.edu- sysadmin, philosophy guy, and Rush fan |
| "Good. Bad. I'm the guy with the gun." - Ash, from Army of Darkness |
| I don't speak for anyone except you. |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Message no. 16
From: "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Relavancy of 2nd Hand fighters
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 21:59:36 -0500
On Wed, 19 Oct 1994, Jason Larke wrote:

> In light of the excessive use of one-syllable words such as
> "stuff" and "kids", can we truly accept this as an authentic
> post from Doom? I fear we must face the unpleasant possibility
> that our dear Colonel has fallen upon some hardship with his
> vocabulary, or, worse, the security and privacy of his account.

Don't you see? It's crypto-speech (stegonography) indicating that Doom
is now under the control of the FBI. We MUST MOUNT A RESCUE ATTEMPT!
DAMMIT, IF ONLY WE KNEW WHO HE WAS!


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Message no. 17
From: Shadowdancer <BRIDDLE@*****.VINU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Relavancy of 2nd Hand fighters
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 22:02:15 EST
Leave poor Doom alone!! He has enough problems covering for our
Fearless Leader!!!!<grin>



Many people run the shadows, praying that whatever gods they worship will smile upon them.
I waltz through shadows with my gods, and I lead!

-SHADOWDANCER-
Message no. 18
From: "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Relavancy of 2nd Hand fighters
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 22:05:07 -0500
On Wed, 19 Oct 1994, Shadowdancer wrote:

> Leave poor Doom alone!! He has enough problems covering for our
> Fearless Leader!!!!<grin>

Huh? What did I do this time?

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Message no. 19
From: Shadowdancer <BRIDDLE@*****.VINU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Relavancy of 2nd Hand fighters
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 22:07:04 EST
Don't you know? Doom is Hoover!!!!

Of course, I'm sorry, Doom usually covers for your inadaquacies. Is
this why you are so paniced????<snicker,snicker,harf,harf>



Many people run the shadows, praying that whatever gods they worship will smile upon them.
I waltz through shadows with my gods, and I lead!

-SHADOWDANCER-
Message no. 20
From: "D.O.A. SECURITY" <MKNABUSCH@****.ALBION.EDU>
Subject: Re: Relavancy of 2nd Hand fighters
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 00:07:32 -0500
Kudo's to Herr Colonel und Herr Doctor. Truely
the most magnificent THWAP I have seen yet.
We ought have a THWAPing contest, kind of like
the shadowtk awards. *grin* *duck* No thwaps
please! (And no, I will NOT recommend that
thwaps become a nerps submission.)

Michael
aka Harlequin
originator of the Rapid Fire Thwap (check the FAQ)
Message no. 21
From: "Wow, Reality. That's a switch" <MHILLIARD@****.ALBION.EDU>
Subject: Re: Relavancy of 2nd Hand fighters
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 03:27:32 -0500
>Don't you know? Doom is Hoover!!!!
A vacuum cleaner? Or is that his name?

Oh God. My birth parents' (I'm adopted) name was Hoover. And I AM
supposed to have a long-lost brother.......

=)
Phelan the Undisciplined
Message no. 22
From: Chris Lubrecht <lubrecht@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Relavancy of 2nd Hand fighters
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 11:34:03 -0400
On Wed, 19 Oct 1994, Shadowdancer wrote:

> Don't you know? Doom is Hoover!!!!
>

WHATT!!!!! I didn't know he walked around in women's clothing! :-)

Nigel
Message no. 23
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@****.CAIS.COM>
Subject: Re: Relavancy of 2nd Hand fighters
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 23:10:25 -0400
On Wed, 19 Oct 1994, Doctor Doom wrote:

> J.D. Falk is seen before a solitary computer terminal in a darkened room,
> alternating between madly typing and raving about submissions, NERPS, and
> names and telephone numbers of other people who used the stuff.
>
> A cloaked figure enters the room behind Falk and shakes his head sadly.
> "Dear me ... another one."
[rest deleted]

Ah, thank you, Doctor. I feel much better now...

/-----------------\
| J.D. Falk | 29% of Americans believe that Elvis Presley
| jdfalk@****.com | was right to shoot his television sets.
\-----------------/

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