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Message no. 1
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@****.ORG>
Subject: Replies
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:17:08 -0700
Is it just me or does anyone else have to check the
addresses of their replies to the listserv to make sure
it's actually going to the listserv? I've had to start
checking every reply I make since we switched from
majordomo to listserv.

-David

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Message no. 2
From: Tim Cooper <tpcooper@***.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Replies
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:26:15 -0800
On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, David Buehrer wrote:

> Is it just me or does anyone else have to check the
> addresses of their replies to the listserv to make sure
> it's actually going to the listserv? I've had to start
> checking every reply I make since we switched from
> majordomo to listserv.
>
> -David
>

I've had the same problem, when I reply to some messages it wants to send
it to the original sender AND the List, while others just go back to the
List (like they should).

i.e. To: user@*******
cc: shadowrn@***..

or

To: shadowrun discussion <etc..>
cc:

~tim
Message no. 3
From: Dvixen <dvixen@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Replies
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 16:06:07 -0800
----------
> From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@****.ORG>
> To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET
>
> Is it just me or does anyone else have to check the
> addresses of their replies to the listserv to make sure
> it's actually going to the listserv? I've had to start
> checking every reply I make since we switched from
> majordomo to listserv.

Everything is coming through fine for me. (My mailer shows all header
informations)

----------
> From: Tim Cooper <tpcooper@***.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
> To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET
>
> I've had the same problem, when I reply to some messages it wants to
send
> it to the original sender AND the List, while others just go back to the
> List (like they should).
>
> i.e. To: user@*******
> cc: shadowrn@***..

This is probably a hold over from someone who posted a reply to the
author, and then cc'ing to the list. You server probably knows that you
have just recieved identical messages, one goes in the trash, and you get
the first of the two to arrive.

> or
>
> To: shadowrun discussion <etc..>
> cc:

If you want, send a query to the listserv, and check your options. You
may
have something odd set, though I doubt that is the case.

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The opinions expressed are those of the myriad voices in my head
Message no. 4
From: Timothy P Cooper <tpcooper@***.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Replies
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 16:09:47 -0800
> If you want, send a query to the listserv, and check your options. You may
> have something odd set, though I doubt that is the case.
>
> --
> Dvixen/Snow Leopard/Celt/Queen of Swords dvixen@********.com
> "Snow Melts"
> The opinions expressed are those of the myriad voices in my head

Thanks, but I already worked that out, so it's probably the first thing you
mentioned (which I just finished deleteing..) about somebody mis-directing the
post to the author then CC'ing the List....or something else entirely.

~Tim
Computers: Full of uses, but not always useful!
Message no. 5
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Replies
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 11:51:38 +0100
David Buehrer said on 11:17/22 Nov 96...

> Is it just me or does anyone else have to check the
> addresses of their replies to the listserv to make sure
> it's actually going to the listserv? I've had to start
> checking every reply I make since we switched from
> majordomo to listserv.

It's some people who have Reply-To fields in their message headers --
listserv doesn't replace them with the list address, so replying to a post
from for example Mark Steedman or Brian Allison means it'll be a personal
reply. It also happened with majordomo, BTW.

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Message no. 6
From: Brian W Allison <ballison@*******.WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject: Re: Replies
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 09:57:20 -0500
On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Gurth wrote:
> It's some people who have Reply-To fields in their message headers --
> listserv doesn't replace them with the list address, so replying to a post
> from for example Mark Steedman or Brian Allison means it'll be a personal
> reply. It also happened with majordomo, BTW.

Since I happen to e-mail most of my messages (and post to USENET) via my
PPP link (Linux! Down with Microsplat!), the machine named in my headers
is one which bounces all inbound messaes.

Obrelated: If you don't respond to the mailing list and try to respond
directly to *some* of us, then your response is doomed a death of hops. :)


Brian


Brian W. Allison

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Message no. 7
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Replies
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 12:37:54 +0100
Brian W Allison said on 9:57/23 Nov 96...

> Since I happen to e-mail most of my messages (and post to USENET) via my
> PPP link (Linux! Down with Microsplat!), the machine named in my headers
> is one which bounces all inbound messaes.

I noticed that... Now, though, the reply-to field seems to have
miraculously gone away :)

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Message no. 8
From: Brian W Allison <ballison@*******.WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject: Re: Replies
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 09:18:50 -0500
On Sun, 24 Nov 1996, Gurth wrote:

> Brian W Allison said on 9:57/23 Nov 96...
>
> > Since I happen to e-mail most of my messages (and post to USENET) via my
> > PPP link (Linux! Down with Microsplat!), the machine named in my headers
> > is one which bounces all inbound messaes.
>
> I noticed that... Now, though, the reply-to field seems to have
> miraculously gone away :)

Sometimes I rlogin to my school account, sometimes I dont.

And if the mail is from 'phoenix.isr.umd.edu' then I'm mailing from
home, but not inserting a reply-to field.

NOspam! Works for me!


(Did you know that they sift USENET or even e-mail for addresses? Drek,
what a bunch of fragging losers.)





Brian W. Allison

Computer Scientist Vocalist Would-be Poet Bicycler Scuba Diver
Hacker(0xca) Nerd(79) GenX(21) #include <witticism.h>
http://www.wam.umd.edu/~ballison

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Message no. 9
From: The Jestyr <jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Replies
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:50:22 +1100
> It's some people who have Reply-To fields in their message headers --
> listserv doesn't replace them with the list address, so replying to a post
> from for example Mark Steedman or Brian Allison means it'll be a personal
> reply. It also happened with majordomo, BTW.

Well, I want listproc back! It worked fine with listproc... :(

Lady Jestyr

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Message no. 10
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Replies
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:17:03 +0000
|
|> It's some people who have Reply-To fields in their message headers --
|> listserv doesn't replace them with the list address, so replying to a post
|> from for example Mark Steedman or Brian Allison means it'll be a personal
|> reply. It also happened with majordomo, BTW.
|
|Well, I want listproc back! It worked fine with listproc... :(

You mean Majordomo....
Listproc fell out of use almost a year ago.....

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Message no. 11
From: Mark Steedman <M.J.Steedman@***.RGU.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Replies
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:40:02 GMT
Gurth writes

> David Buehrer said on 11:17/22 Nov 96...
>
> > Is it just me or does anyone else have to check the
> > addresses of their replies to the listserv to make sure
> > it's actually going to the listserv? I've had to start
> > checking every reply I make since we switched from
> > majordomo to listserv.
>
> It's some people who have Reply-To fields in their message headers --
> listserv doesn't replace them with the list address, so replying to a post
> from for example Mark Steedman or Brian Allison means it'll be a personal
> reply. It also happened with majordomo, BTW.
It seems a lot worse recently, i don't know why but the last month
i've got a lot of replies to me that should have been list. There is
no way i can change the relevant field each time easily though (i'm
sure theres got to be a switch someplace, this is pegasus mail)
I think somethings going on, maybe theres a mail programme going
about that gets things upset.

generally speaking a message bounced off the list will have a reply
to and a from fields, one should be set to the list address the other
should be the senders email, but this relies on the two mail
programmes and list not managing to get them switched somewhere along
the way, answer be careful, i get it wrong often enough by just
hitting return not wasting 10 secs checking.

Mark

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