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Message no. 1
From: Luke Kendall <luke@********.CANON.OZ.AU>
Subject: Repost: Re: Astral Question...
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 10:01:11 +1100
(Apologies; I believe I garbled this before.)

Rat> Not at all. Rain, snow, sleet, hail, tornadoes, etc., are all physical,
Rat> non-living phenomena, so they have little to no astral presence.

Luke> Not in one sense. But precipitation would certainly restrict astral
Luke> visibility to very short distances, since you can't see through it
Luke> at all.

Rat> Why? Since "light" and "dark" in the physical world are
meaningless in
Rat> astral... or are we back to this argument again? :)

Again? Yep, unless J.D.Falk decides to add it to his meta-FAQ.
My position is, that the FASA `mages see through transparent stuff
when astral' is a clumsy hack to the rules that detracts from game
balance and atmosphere.

But even FASA agree that you can't see through opaque objects, so
`snow, sleet, hail, tornadoes' will interfere with astral sight, even
if they can't affect the US mail. :-) And god alone knows whether
the randomly-wobbling light-distorting rain drops would affect a
mage's vision.

I think you can guess what I'd decide, eh?

Rat> Yup, back to that argument: why doesn't non-living glass block LOS in
Rat> astral space? No, I don't want to rehash this all over again.

It does block it, under our house rules. I'm getting tired of rehashing
all this, too. Please, J.D - come to our rescue with an FAQ!

Rat> LOS in the /physical/ plane, not astral.

Damion> Page 88, The Grimything II:
Damion>
Damion> "Travel through water or fire does not slow down an astral body, but can
Damion> effect visibility..."
Damion> [...]
Damion> And anyway, I was arguing the opposite, in that sinse glass is clear
Damion> and retains that property, then so should opaque substances (retain their
Damion> opaque properties that is).

Absolutely, even if this does send Rat into convulsions. :-)

I still think our pre-Grimoire house rule: all `sufficiently solid'
physical objects are opaque on the astral plane.

(And I've now exhausted my meagre enthusiasm for this topic this
time round.)

luke
Message no. 2
From: Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@***.NEU.EDU>
Subject: Repost: Re: Astral Question...
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 19:58:22 -0500
>>>>> "Luke" == Luke Kendall <luke@********.CANON.OZ.AU>
writes:

Luke> Absolutely, even if this does send Rat into convulsions. :-)

<insert Ben Dunn sound effects... twitch!-twitch!... CONVULSE!!!>

Retcon!!!

:)

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