From: | mamos@*****.com (Mike Amos) |
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Subject: | Resolution, I hope |
Date: | Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:33:30 -0700 |
I realize that legally Shadowrun is as Adam described it. Anything licensed
by the correct people ( a whole different can of worms) that takes place in
approximately the correct time period, involving magic, technology, the
goblinization, four races of metahumanity, these kinds of things.
Where I am dissenting from the majority and am legally and technically
incorrect is that I believe the origin of the product is very important as
well. For example, Shadowrun was first and RPG. Thus just as important as
the universe it exists in is the system that runs it. This is where I feel
that these toys fall out of the universe. Although I do recognize the
correctness of Adams position, basically I'm deciding to just be wrong.
> hrmmm... Here's an analogous example for Mike...
>
> Star Wars. What is it? A Movie, a game, a world, a book, an RPG? A
> T-Shirt? A Toy? A Comic Book? Or all of the above?
This was actually what I thought of to try to explain it to myself, but I
found that to me Star Wars is the first three movies. Now again I realize
the license of Star Wars extend far beyond this. However, anyone will tell
you that anything that doesn't jive with the first three movies is
considered noncanon and possibly loses the entire name of Star Wars.
Anything that has been created since either advertises that universe (action
figures, t-shirts, posters) or is expected to exist in the same universe
generated by the first three movies (the second three movies {episodes 1-3},
the new MMORPG, the RPG). This is why Lucas is beating his head against the
wall trying (and failing) to make the new movies with the originals. Because
the wholes system and license is based on those movies.
Basically if they had just made action figures I might hate them for being
ugly, but they would still exist in the sixth world to me. But these new
figures are designed to use a different system and specifically designed to
behave differently than the characters of the characters of the Shadowrun
Universe behave. This is why I dissent from the majority and say I don't
feel they are really a part of the same Universe, even if I openly accept
that they are indeed part of the same license.
And to address one persons comment. They were correct when they implied that
I was offended that the name of such a fine product as Shadowrun was being
put on such an apparent piece of crap.
Anyhow I feel not much more can be gained by further debate of my concerns.
I admit to the legal correctness of Adam's position. I just feel, and it has
been stated, that this is not the same game, even though it is being called
by the same name. This is where my issue lies. That and the pictures make
them look like crap.