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From: Mark Imbriaco <mark@**.ODU.EDU>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown (fwd)
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 15:14:04 -0500
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From: Mark Imbriaco <mark@**.odu.edu>
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My WWW server for ShadowRun is now online. It is VERY sparse right now,
but I am working on it. So far, I have HTML versions of the ShadowTk
faq, ShadowTk Edited logs, and I am working on the other Faq's and Cast
lists. If you have anything to contribute, mail mark@**.odu.edu. HTML
pages will be happily accepted. :-) If there is something that you would
like to see on the site, let me know, and I'll try and add it as soon as
possible. The URL for the page is:

http://www.cs.odu.edu/~mark/shadow.html

Mark Imbriaco
mark@**.odu.edu


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Message no. 2
From: Unix_Kurs7044 <c7044@*****.RZ.UNI-REGENSBURG.DE>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 19:15:02 +0200
>From daemon Tue May 24 19:13:11 1994
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Subject:
To: c7044

----- Transcript of session follows -----
550 d... User unknown

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To: SHADOWRN%HEARN.BITNET@**.gmd.de
Subject: Re: Major religions in 2055..
Cc: d

Okay, I have to add a new aspect to this religion debate ...
1 1/2 years ago I made a campaigne that delt with the questions "Is there
Satan in the Awakened Word?" and "Can a priest do magic only be the power
os his believe?". Of course the campaigne started out complettly different,
and if I can convience myself I will post that on here on the list.
But the relevant thing is this: The Camp. took place mainly in London and
UK, but also in Japan and Seattle. I used a lot of handouts at that time
(made myself), mainly tidbits of NEWS U.K.. In the NEWS UK were articles
about events caused by the runners and other articles (I just had to fill
the page). On of those article was about a theologist and criticist of the
CRR. His name was Martin Creed, and he was thrown out of church because
he stated this thesis: He said "Mana and Magic was always present on Earth,
even the last 5000 years, but only in special regions and in low concentration.
(Temporal and Regional Distribution of Mana - Theory). But through an
incredible force of will or believe it was more than once possible to DO
magic prior to the official date 2011. Jesus Christ was in effect such a
Magician, he did wonders (= used magic) and was able to only by his firm
believe in God.". The Church of course didn't like this thesis and ex-
communinated the good Mr. Creed.
But Creed feared that some groups inside the RCC might not react so "tolerant"
toward his blasphemic statement and try to "get him out of the way". And this
was something Creed could not allow to happen, because he (and friends of him)
found old books, very old books, ... , and they described a kind of demon, per-
haps Satan himself, and how he can achieve access to our world. And this know-
ledge had to be kept secret and in existance. So Creed went "underground" in
London and hid from those fundamentalist groups inside the RCC, constantly
looking for hints to that demon that was described in those OLD BOOKS.
Where the runners came in and what the fate of Creed was is another story,
the popoint is that Martin Creed had to hide like Salman Rushdie in our times.

BTW, I'd like to introduce a knew abbreviation:
DKTCS - don't know the correct spelling; seems to be quite handy some times

ThAnX for Your Precious TiME, Mephisto ==St.Willkofer
Message no. 3
From: Stephen Delear <c715591@******.MISSOURI.EDU>
Subject: Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 16:32:19 -0500
I tried to e-mail you but it bounced so I'm sending my reply over the list.

SteveD

>>Stephen,
>>
>>I found your post to the ShadowRN list about Mages and Cyberware very
>>interesting! This is a current issue in our campain, and something I've
>>been thinking about, so I thought I'd get your take on a few things.
>>
>>First, if a mage gets an Encephalon, what bonuses do you allow them to use
>>with regard to magical skills? I don't have Shadowtech with me right now,
>>but IIRC, the description states that encehapons DO enhance magical
>>ability. But the description also says that the encephalon only increases
>>Knowledge, B/R and technical skills. IIRC, spellcasting etc doesn't fit
>>into any of those categories. (Stop me if I'm wrong!) So what CAN you use
>>it for? Learning spells only or something?
>
>Actually I'd say that per each level of encephalon a mage can sustain ONE
>spell with out tge +2 penatly for doing things while maintaining a spell.
>However I would still access the +2 on drain resistance and maybe casting
>tests (he might not be distracted but you can still only channel so much
>energy through your body). As for a task I'd say that it can be used for
>designing spells (I could possibly also see it being justified for
>enchanting). He also gets the int bonus while in the astral.
>>
>>I like the idea of associating metabolic problems with the guy who locks a
>>"Increase Initiative +3" spell. Do you have any more details on this,
or

>>know where I can get some? I haven't seen any house rules of this nature,
>>but I think we need one!
>
>It wasn't so much locking as quickening I was thinking about. With
>accelerated metabolic processes 24/7 I can see things getting nasty for the
>character very quickly (multiply the rate at which the character ages by
>level+1 * force of quickening) using increased inititative on a lock for a
>couple of hours probably isn't going to shorten your life any more then
>smoking a pack of cigerettes but it's not the kind of thing your want to
>have one for days at a time. You also might want to have heavy users roll
>bod tests vers say 4 to avoid cancer caused by the rapid cell growth the
>chars undergoing. As for locks all I can suggest is grounding something
>nasty through one as for quickening you can always have a mage take one out
>in astral combat or dispell it. Alternativly you could start running
>games where increased reflexes don't play that big of a roll (a couple
>don't set off the security system runs would be good).
>>
>>Again, thanks for the thoughts.
>>Cheers.
>>Tauri.
>>
>>PS. Could you reply by private e-mail rather than the list? Thanks! My
>>address is <tauri@**.net.au>.
>>
>>PPS. I know it's not strictly about enhancements, but another spell that
>>was locked by a mage in our campaign was a Clairvoyance spell. He just
>>concentrated to use it and the bugger could see 'round corners! Didn't
>>last long anyhow....just a thought.
>
>I don't think locking works like that. He could have a look set to "twenty
>feet to the left and five feet forward" but he couldn't have one set to
>"where ever I concentrate on". Locks maintain spells they do not cast
>them. This gets a little fuzzy around the edges for example a controll
>thoughts lock allows the bonding mage to controll the thoughts of the warer
>(as per a maintained controll thoughts spell) but does not allow the wearer
>to use the power of controll thoughts. I guess this all depends on your
>interpertation of how clairvoyance works if the magician picks a spot at
>the begining and then sustains to view the spot then it can't be used to
>see around conrners and such. On the other hand if the magician can "fly"
>his point of vision around then it works how he had it.
>
>SteveD
>Stephen Delear
>University of Missouri-Columbia
>Check out my Photo Message Board at http://www.missouri.edu/~c715591
>"Sometimes I do get to places just when God's ready to have somebody click
>the shutter" Ansel Adams
>
Stephen Delear
University of Missouri-Columbia
Check out my Photo Message Board at http://www.missouri.edu/~c715591
"Sometimes I do get to places just when God's ready to have somebody click
the shutter" Ansel Adams
Message no. 4
From: Phil Smith phil_urbanhell@*******.com
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 10:29:30 -0000
postoffice@*****.com have been sending me back all the messages that I
posted to this list over the last two weeks telling me that they suffered
fatal errors (despite the fact that they all arrived to you guys in tact).
Has anyone else been getting this?

Phil

Dying is an art like everything else.

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Message no. 5
From: Spike spike1@*******.co.uk
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 11:21:12 +0000 (GMT)
And verily, didst Phil Smith babble thusly...
> postoffice@*****.com have been sending me back all the messages that I
> posted to this list over the last two weeks telling me that they suffered
> fatal errors (despite the fact that they all arrived to you guys in tact).

> Has anyone else been getting this?

Yup...
Got about 6 or 7 of them last night.

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Message no. 6
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 03:26:42 -0800 (PST)
> And verily, didst Phil Smith babble thusly...
> > postoffice@*****.com have been sending me back all
the messages that I posted to this list over the last
two weeks telling me that they suffered fatal errors
(despite the fact that they all arrived to you guys in
tact).
>
> > Has anyone else been getting this?
>
> Yup...
> Got about 6 or 7 of them last night.
> | spike1@*******.co.uk | "Are you pondering what

Oh, yah, most definitely, like.

====Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow, aka Doc'booner, aka Doc' Vader)

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Can you SMELL what THE DOC' is COOKIN'!!!

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Message no. 7
From: GSW13 darklordsatin@*******.com
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 10:02:53 -0500
> > And verily, didst Phil Smith babble thusly...
> > > postoffice@*****.com have been sending me back all
> the messages that I posted to this list over the last
> two weeks telling me that they suffered fatal errors
> (despite the fact that they all arrived to you guys in
> tact).
> >
> > > Has anyone else been getting this?
> >
> > Yup...
> > Got about 6 or 7 of them last night.
> > | spike1@*******.co.uk | "Are you pondering what
>
> Oh, yah, most definitely, like.

Yup, anyone know why?

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Message no. 8
From: George Metz wolfstar@*********.wox.org
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 23:02:32 -0500 (EST)
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, GSW13 wrote:

> > > And verily, didst Phil Smith babble thusly...
> > > > postoffice@*****.com have been sending me back all
> > the messages that I posted to this list over the last
> > two weeks telling me that they suffered fatal errors
> > (despite the fact that they all arrived to you guys in
> > tact).
> > >
> > > > Has anyone else been getting this?
> > >
> > > Yup...
> > > Got about 6 or 7 of them last night.
> > > | spike1@*******.co.uk | "Are you pondering what
> >
> > Oh, yah, most definitely, like.
>
> Yup, anyone know why?

Yes. Someone with an e-mail address via apple.com is subscribed but
bouncing mail for some reason. The server is playing nice by responding to
the "from" field rather than to the sender, I would assume. Otherwise,
GridSec should've pulled it by now.

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George Metz
Commercial Routing Engineer
wolfstar@*********.wox.org
Message no. 9
From: Paul Collins paulcollins@*******.com
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 18:02:52 +1100
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Smith" <phil_urbanhell@*******.com>
To: <ShadowRN@*********.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 9:29 PM
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown


> postoffice@*****.com have been sending me back all the messages that I
> posted to this list over the last two weeks telling me that they suffered
> fatal errors (despite the fact that they all arrived to you guys in tact).
> Has anyone else been getting this?
>
> Phil
>
> Dying is an art like everything else.
>
>

Yeppers, me too

Annachie

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Message no. 10
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 12:42:45 +0100
According to GSW13, on Sat, 16 Dec 2000 the word on the street was...

> Yup, anyone know why?

The most likely explanation is that someone at apple.com was subscribed to
this list, but the address got cancelled. The listserver kept sending mail
to it, though, causing apple.com's mail system to send those messages back
to where it appears they came from -- the address of the original sender.

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