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Message no. 1
From: Leon <nesius@******.COM>
Subject: Rigger 2: Question
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 22:13:37 -0800
Here's one for you folks with an ear to the ground in shadows.

I've tapped all my contacts for this info and came up dry. But I'm
bettin' the tasty bit of information that constitutes the answer for
my question has all ready been on the table here, so I'm tappin' my
ace in the hole and putting my question on the list.

The topic is ECCM, something I bet more than a few of you know more about
than I. The question regards the mechanics for using ECCM. The Rigger 2
book, on page 32, says:
"Riggers may use ECCM to counteract ECM jamming. ... The counterjammer
rolls a number of dice equal to his vehicle's ECCM Rating, against a
target number equal to the ECM Rating of his opponent's vehicle."

However, in the back of the Rigger 2 book, there is a template for
vehicles that has places to keep track of the ECCM current and maximum
Flux rating.

My question is:
Does the rigger roll dice equal to his ECCM Rating, vs. the vehicle's
ECM rating, or does he roll his ECCM's current Flux Rating, vs. the
ECM's flux rating? It would seem to me that the Flux Rating is what
should actually be used...

Thanks ta' those of you out there who can offer a perspective on this.
You can feed the data to this electronic link. Or, we can hook up for
a face to face. Just tell the bartender at Delirium that you'd like
the house special, and he'll point 'cha in the right direction.

Thanks.

-Leon
Message no. 2
From: Robert Nesius <nesius@******.COM>
Subject: Rigger 2 Question
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:39:17 -0800
Here's one for you folks with an ear to the ground in shadows.

I've tapped all my contacts for this info and came up dry. But I'm
bettin' the tasty bit of information that constitutes the answer for
my question has all ready been on the table here, so I'm tappin' my
ace in the hole and putting my question on the list.

The topic is ECCM, something I bet more than a few of you know more about
than I. The question regards the mechanics for using ECCM. The Rigger 2
book, on page 32, says:
"Riggers may use ECCM to counteract ECM jamming. ... The counterjammer
rolls a number of dice equal to his vehicle's ECCM Rating, against a
target number equal to the ECM Rating of his opponent's vehicle."

However, in the back of the Rigger 2 book, there is a template for
vehicles that has places to keep track of the ECCM current and maximum
Flux rating.

My question is:
Does the rigger roll dice equal to his ECCM Rating, vs. the vehicle's
ECM rating, or does he roll his ECCM's current Flux Rating, vs. the
ECM's flux rating? It would seem to me that the Flux Rating is what
should actually be used...

Thanks ta' those of you out there who can offer a perspective on this.
You can feed the data to this electronic link. Or, we can hook up for
a face to face. Just tell the bartender at Delirium that you'd like
the house special, and he'll point 'cha in the right direction.

-Leon
Message no. 3
From: Sommers sommers@*****.umich.edu
Subject: Rigger 2 question
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:52:56 -0400
Anybody near a Rigger 2 book know the cost for vehicle maintenance per
month? I think its 1% of the vehicle cost, but can't remember off hand.
Also, IIRC you get a 10% discount for high lifestyle and 20% for Luxury.

Anyone who can verify this stuff would be...well, a swell person. :)

Sommers
Insert witty quote here.
Message no. 4
From: Robert Blackberg Robert.Blackberg@***.fiserv.com
Subject: Rigger 2 question
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:12:21 -0400
>>> Sommers <sommers@*****.umich.edu> 10/14/99 02:52PM >>>
>Anybody near a Rigger 2 book know the cost for vehicle maintenance per
>month? I think its 1% of the vehicle cost, but can't remember off hand.
>Also, IIRC you get a 10% discount for high lifestyle and 20% for Luxury.


I'm a sick man, but I bring the core books with me to work.

From Rigger 2, page 18: "The monthly overhead cost for a vehicle is equal to 1
percent of the vehicles's cost value (the cost value divided by 100), rounded up, plus ten
times the Stress Points accumulated over the past month."

From Rigger 2, page 19: "Middle Lifestyle reduces total monthly overhead costs by
200 nuyen. High Lifestyle reduces total monthly overhead costs by 1,500 nuyen, and a
Luxury Lifestyle reduces total monthly overhead costs by 3,000 nuyen."

Robert (no cool tagline, just a plain line_____________________)
Message no. 5
From: Sommers sommers@*****.umich.edu
Subject: Rigger 2 question
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:33:55 -0400
At 03:12 PM 10/14/99 , Robert Blackberg wrote:
> >>> Sommers <sommers@*****.umich.edu> 10/14/99 02:52PM >>>
> >Anybody near a Rigger 2 book know the cost for vehicle maintenance per
> >month? I think its 1% of the vehicle cost, but can't remember off hand.
> >Also, IIRC you get a 10% discount for high lifestyle and 20% for Luxury
>
>I'm a sick man, but I bring the core books with me to work.

You're right. You're a sick man, but I love you for it. This is exactly
what I need.


Sommers
Insert witty quote here.
Message no. 6
From: Grim Shear grim_shear@*******.com
Subject: Rigger 2 question
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:00:01 CDT
>Anybody near a Rigger 2 book know the cost for vehicle maintenance per
>month? I think its 1% of the vehicle cost, but can't remember off hand.
>Also, IIRC you get a 10% discount for high lifestyle and 20% for
Luxury.
Anyone who can verify this stuff would be...well, a swell person. :)

Its cost/100+(Stress points in last month*10)
You get 200 nuyen off for middle, and I _think_ something like 500 for
high. Can't remember Luxury off hand.

Grim Shear
"Dammit man, I thought I told you to throw the _Grenade_
not the pin." Spoken soon after telling a _really_ stupid
(and well roleplayed Troll), to pull the pin and throw it.

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