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Message no. 1
From: Mon goose <landsquid@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Rigger 2: Unfair to Trolls / cycle economy
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 02:08:04 PDT
> Also, are there any motorcycle riders on the list who would care to
comment on the economy figures given for motorcycles in Rigger 2? I
notice that a lot of the economy figures have gotten a lot worse from
RBB to Rigger 2. I thought that motorcycles got far better mileage than
cars (since there's less mass to move for a given amount of fuel).

Motorcycles as a rule get poorer fuel economy (per mass) than cars.
Thier engines are designed for power, and higher RPM. Emmisions are
usaully less restrictive, and aerodynamic drag proportionally high.
Higher speed is universally bad for economy, too. :) My medium sized
bike only got about 20 miles/gallon, with a 5 gallon tank. Larger
engined bikes, however, are not much worse- lower RPM at speed with only
marginally higher mass and drag.
That said, unless my metric understanding is quite off, R2
motorcycles have abysmal l/Km economy, even by todays standards, and
huge fuel tanks. However, the two balance out to give realistic ranges.
If you double milage and half fuel, the figures seem more proper to me.
Either that, or I'm converting liters to gallons wrong (about 2 liters
per gallon? If it is 4, the stats are closer to truth). If you don't
take my word, "Cycle World" magazine prints very nice Spec reports, and
they have a web site and are always in (American) library's. They give
metric stats too, IIRC. A motorcycle often only gets about 50-100%
better fuel economy than a car of a similar class, despite bieng less
than half the cars mass and frontal area.

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Message no. 2
From: Jason Hyatt <jhyatt@******.NET>
Subject: Re: Rigger 2: Unfair to Trolls / cycle economy
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:14:32 -0400
>My medium sized bike only got about 20 miles/gallon, with a 5 gallon
tank

that would be 8.502 km/l with a 18.9265l tank

>Either that, or I'm converting liters to gallons wrong (about 2
liters
>per gallon? If it is 4, the stats are closer to truth

Conversion Chart

G - L x 3.7853
L - G x 0.2642
M - Km x 1.6093
Km - M x 0.6214

Mpg - Km/l x 0.4251
Km/l - Mpg x 2.352
Message no. 3
From: Mon goose <landsquid@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Rigger 2: Unfair to Trolls / cycle economy
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:03:46 PDT
>>My medium sized bike only got about 20 miles/gallon, with a 5 gallon
>tank
>
>that would be 8.502 km/l with a 18.9265l tank

>Conversion Chart
>
>G - L x 3.7853
>L - G x 0.2642
>M - Km x 1.6093
>Km - M x 0.6214
>
>Mpg - Km/l x 0.4251
>Km/l - Mpg x 2.352
>

Given that, From the 2 bikes I've owned, and my friends with bigger
bikes, and reading reviews, I'd guess the stats in R2 are pretty good.
Capicity seems high, but many "highway" bikes have extra big tanks
compared to cruisers. I'd susspect he just Mr. Szeto just checked real
world stats and used something near those.

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of a psycotic - Einstien

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