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Message no. 1
From: Tobias Berghoff <Zixx@*****.TEUTO.DE>
Subject: Rigger 2 (was: Re: Greetings)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:43:00 GMT
Hi!

on 30.07.97 gurth@******.NL wrote:
g> Not really, unless you have decker or rigger PCs; for them, Virtual
g> Realities 2.0 and the Rigger Black Book are good stuff. Especially VR 2.0
g> is a must if you plan on doing any matrix runs at all, the RBB is handy
g> for giving more choice and the option of customizing vehicles. However,
g> you may want to wait about 3 or 4 months to buy the RBB, since version 2
g> is supposed to be out by then.

Leads me to a question: Will the RBB2 also include all the nice things
that the german Rigger Handbuch had? (Gurth, I can assume you hane seen
the RHB?)

bye

Tobias
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Message no. 2
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Rigger 2 (was: Re: Greetings)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 14:10:35 -0400
At 05:43 PM 7/30/97 GMT, Tobias Berghoff wrote these timeless words:
>Hi!
>
>on 30.07.97 gurth@******.NL wrote:
>g> Not really, unless you have decker or rigger PCs; for them, Virtual
>g> Realities 2.0 and the Rigger Black Book are good stuff. Especially VR 2.0
>g> is a must if you plan on doing any matrix runs at all, the RBB is handy
>g> for giving more choice and the option of customizing vehicles. However,
>g> you may want to wait about 3 or 4 months to buy the RBB, since version 2
>g> is supposed to be out by then.
>
>Leads me to a question: Will the RBB2 also include all the nice things
>that the german Rigger Handbuch had? (Gurth, I can assume you hane seen
>the RHB?)
>
I'm not sure what all was in that book, but I doubt it. They're completely
rewriting and simplifying Rigging, as well as making vehicle Construction
rules, so you can build a vehicle from teh ground up, rather than only
modifying existing vehicles.

I should be able to tell you more when we get back from GC next week, as
Mike plans to have a Manuscript preview version of RBB2 available for us to
drool on :]

Bull
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Message no. 3
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Rigger 2 (was: Re: Greetings)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 12:27:34 +0100
Bull said on 14:10/ 4 Aug 97...

> I should be able to tell you more when we get back from GC next week, as
> Mike plans to have a Manuscript preview version of RBB2 available for us to
> drool on :]

Will you all stop making us non-GenCon-goers crazy? Comments like this
always make me feel jealous...

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Message no. 4
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Rigger 2 (was: Re: Greetings)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 12:27:34 +0100
Tobias Berghoff said on 17:43/30 Jul 97...

> Leads me to a question: Will the RBB2 also include all the nice things
> that the german Rigger Handbuch had? (Gurth, I can assume you hane seen
> the RHB?)

Haven't seen it; I own DidS 2.01, and I've read a bit in a German version
of Fields of Fire, but that's about it.

However, I'd say don't hold your breath when it comes to FASA including
RHB stuff in RBB2 -- they didn't include the gear from DidS in the Germany
Sourcebook either, for example.

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Message no. 5
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Rigger 2 (was: Re: Greetings)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:24:06 -0400
At 12:27 PM 8/5/97 +0100, Gurth wrote these timeless words:
>Bull said on 14:10/ 4 Aug 97...
>
>> I should be able to tell you more when we get back from GC next week, as
>> Mike plans to have a Manuscript preview version of RBB2 available for us to
>> drool on :]
>
>Will you all stop making us non-GenCon-goers crazy? Comments like this
>always make me feel jealous...
>
<big sad puppy dog eyes>

I'm sowwy Gurth. I didn;t mean to make you jealous. i'm just so excited...

</big sad puppy dog eyes>

:]

Bull
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Message no. 6
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@****.ORG>
Subject: Re: Rigger 2 (was: Re: Greetings)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 07:36:09 -0600
Bull wrote:
|
| At 12:27 PM 8/5/97 +0100, Gurth wrote these timeless words:
| >Bull said on 14:10/ 4 Aug 97...
| >
| >> I should be able to tell you more when we get back from GC next week, as
| >> Mike plans to have a Manuscript preview version of RBB2 available for us to
| >> drool on :]
| >
| >Will you all stop making us non-GenCon-goers crazy? Comments like this
| >always make me feel jealous...
| >
| <big sad puppy dog eyes>
|
| I'm sowwy Gurth. I didn;t mean to make you jealous. i'm just so excited...
|
| </big sad puppy dog eyes>
|
| :]

Here Bull, take *this* to GencCon. :)

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Message no. 7
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Rigger 2 (was: Re: Greetings)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:38:01 -0400
At 07:36 AM 8/5/97 -0600, David Buehrer wrote these timeless words:
>| >Will you all stop making us non-GenCon-goers crazy? Comments like this
>| >always make me feel jealous...
>| >
>| <big sad puppy dog eyes>
>|
>| I'm sowwy Gurth. I didn;t mean to make you jealous. i'm just so
excited...
>|
>| </big sad puppy dog eyes>
>|
>| :]
>
>Here Bull, take *this* to GencCon. :)
>
[Snip big carp]

Heh

Now I wish I woulda picked that up...

I saw a foot long rubber fish at a Discount Store a few weeks back... That
woulda been great to take to Gen Con and hit people with... <grin>

Bull
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Message no. 8
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@****.ORG>
Subject: Re: Rigger 2 (was: Re: Greetings)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:43:14 -0600
Bull wrote:
|
| I saw a foot long rubber fish at a Discount Store a few weeks back... That
| woulda been great to take to Gen Con and hit people with... <grin>

LOL I can see it now, a Wendigo wailing on munchkins with a giant, week
old carp.

-David
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Message no. 9
From: George Metz <W0lfstar@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Rigger 2 (was: Re: Greetings)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 17:54:43 -0400
In a message dated 97-08-05 10:44:19 EDT, you write:

> [Snip big carp]
>
> Heh
>
> Now I wish I woulda picked that up...
>
> I saw a foot long rubber fish at a Discount Store a few weeks back...
That
> woulda been great to take to Gen Con and hit people with... <grin>

You've still got time to get it, Bull! Go for it! Take pictures even! =)
Message no. 10
From: Barbie <barbie@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Rigger 2 (was: Re: Greetings)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 17:13:37 -0500
At 05-Aug-97 wrote Bull:


>>
><big sad puppy dog eyes>

Should it not been <big sad puppy wendigo eyes> ?
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