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Message no. 1
From: NightLife <habenir@******.SAN.UC.EDU>
Subject: Riggers and datajacks
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 00:22:11 -0500
Now this something that was never very clear. Is the vechile jack included
with the insatalltion of the VCR or does the rigger need a datajack ontop of
the VCR. The acrhetype has a datajack so that beeen a debate with my crew
for years now. Just a silly little question. I've always said that the do so
what the offical spin. I've got the RBB but I don't remember any
clairficartion so maybe I'll check again.

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Is it in the "mysterious employer credo" that these little rendezvous always
have to be in exotic locales.

I mean just once wouldn't you like to sit down at a Denny's and plan
an assassination over a French Slam Breakfest?

"Deadpool #1"

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Message no. 2
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Riggers and datajacks
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 00:37:56 -0500
At 12:22 AM 2/4/97 -0500, NightLife babbled:
>Now this something that was never very clear. Is the vechile jack included
>with the insatalltion of the VCR or does the rigger need a datajack ontop of
>the VCR. The acrhetype has a datajack so that beeen a debate with my crew
>for years now. Just a silly little question. I've always said that the do so
>what the offical spin. I've got the RBB but I don't remember any
>clairficartion so maybe I'll check again.
>
We've always played that you need a datajack as well as teh VCR...

In fact, one of our riggers wore his a little odd... He had a bunch of
datajacks, with male connectors instead of female like the norm, and they
hung like dreadlocks...:)

Bull
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Message no. 3
From: The Digital Mage <mn3rge@****.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Riggers and datajacks
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:07:36 +0000
On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Bull wrote:

> In fact, one of our riggers wore his a little odd... He had a bunch of
> datajacks, with male connectors instead of female like the norm, and they
> hung like dreadlocks...:)

Quite a few riggers who I've experienced in games do something weird with
datajacks, having them in the wrist is quite common.

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Message no. 4
From: Tim Cooper <tpcooper@***.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Riggers and datajacks
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:12:37 -0800
On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, NightLife wrote:

> Now this something that was never very clear. Is the vechile jack included
> with the insatalltion of the VCR or does the rigger need a datajack ontop of
> the VCR. The acrhetype has a datajack so that beeen a debate with my crew
> for years now. Just a silly little question. I've always said that the do so
> what the offical spin. I've got the RBB but I don't remember any
> clairficartion so maybe I'll check again.
>
>
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IMHO the 'jack' by which you connect to a vehicle is included in the cost
of the VCR (it costs enough essence as is...). If you want to connect to more things
than just your VC deck, then you'd get another datajack.

I don't have access to the books right now, doesn't it say something like
a jack is included in the description of the VCR?

~Tim
Message no. 5
From: "Steven A. Tinner" <bluewizard@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Riggers and datajacks
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 17:07:17 -0500
Another PC in our group has a "data-crotch" that snaps loose from his
groin, and plugs into the computer.
Of course he is a loony, and a cyberzombie as well . . . :-)

Steven A. Tinner
bluewizard@*****.com
http://www.ncweb.com./users/bluewizard
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Message no. 6
From: Caric <caric@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Riggers and datajacks
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 15:45:55 -0700
> Another PC in our group has a "data-crotch" that snaps loose from his
> groin, and plugs into the computer.
> Of course he is a loony, and a cyberzombie as well . . . :-)
>
> Steven A. Tinner

Were you out of Carp that night, or just feeling loony yourself?

~Caric

"All the world's indeed a stage, we are mearly players.
Performers and portrayers. Each anothers audience,
outside the gilded cage." -Rush
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Message no. 7
From: "Steven A. Tinner" <bluewizard@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Riggers and datajacks
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:37:25 -0500
> > Another PC in our group has a "data-crotch" that snaps loose from his
> > groin, and plugs into the computer.
> > Of course he is a loony, and a cyberzombie as well . . . :-)
> >
> > Steven A. Tinner
>
> Were you out of Carp that night, or just feeling loony yourself?

Oh, I'm ALWAYS loony. :-)
And since it didn't make any functional game difference, and I got a laugh
out of it, I allowed it.

Steven A. Tinner
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http://www.ncweb.com./users/bluewizard
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Message no. 8
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Riggers and datajacks
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:17:05 +0000
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|Another PC in our group has a "data-crotch" that snaps loose from his
|groin, and plugs into the computer.
|Of course he is a loony, and a cyberzombie as well . . . :-)

He's not called Kryten is he?
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Message no. 9
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Riggers and datajacks
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:34:03 +0100
Steven A. Tinner said on 17:07/ 4 Feb 97...

> Another PC in our group has a "data-crotch" that snaps loose from his
> groin, and plugs into the computer.

That reminds me of one of the new episodes of Red Dwarf... (sorry LJ :)

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Message no. 10
From: The Digital Mage <mn3rge@****.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Riggers and datajacks
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 11:58:28 +0000
On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Tim Cooper wrote:

> I don't have access to the books right now, doesn't it say something like
> a jack is included in the description of the VCR?
I don't think so, though a Chipjack does come free with skillwires (at
least the basic version.


The Digital Mage : mn3rge@****.ac.uk
"So that which I imagine, is that which I believe" -Rush
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Message no. 11
From: The Digital Mage <mn3rge@****.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Riggers and datajacks
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 11:59:16 +0000
On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Steven A. Tinner wrote:

> Another PC in our group has a "data-crotch" that snaps loose from his
> groin, and plugs into the computer.
> Of course he is a loony, and a cyberzombie as well . . . :-)
His his name Kryten by any chance :)

The Digital Mage : mn3rge@****.ac.uk
"So that which I imagine, is that which I believe" -Rush
Shadowrun Web Site http://www.bath.ac.uk/~mn3rge/Shadowrun.html
Message no. 12
From: L Canthros <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Riggers and datajacks
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 07:19:36 EST
On Tue, 4 Feb 1997 00:22:11 -0500 NightLife <habenir@******.SAN.UC.EDU>
writes:
>Now this something that was never very clear. Is the vechile jack
>included
>with the insatalltion of the VCR or does the rigger need a datajack
>ontop of
>the VCR. The acrhetype has a datajack so that beeen a debate with my
>crew
>for years now. Just a silly little question. I've always said that the
>do so
>what the offical spin. I've got the RBB but I don't remember any
>clairficartion so maybe I'll check again.
>
I have never used riggers (will maybe have one soon, I just found out one
of the players has had the RBB for some time now and never said
anything), but I would assume that the VCR includes rigger jacks (it's
mentioned in the Plus Ca Change story that Iris, the elf rigger, had a
set of rigger jacks, implying more than one, on her temple), but that
they are different from and cannot be used in place of a datajack, though
a datajack could in certain circumstances (from what I've seen out on the
web) be used in place of a VCR, though without the spectacular advantages
normally acheived. So, I would assume that the rigger has a datajack for
the same reason many characters would have a datajack, to access
information.

Canthros
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Message no. 13
From: Peter Coxon <coxoff@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Riggers and datajacks
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:36:58 UT
>Another PC in our group has a "data-crotch" that snaps loose from his
>groin, and plugs into the computer.
>Of course he is a loony, and a cyberzombie as well . . . :-)
>Steven A. Tinner
Kinda reminds me of Kyrtons Groinal Hover.
tim ntoo
Message no. 14
From: "Arno R. Lehmann" <arlehma@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Riggers and datajacks
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 02:00:33 +0100
On Wed, 5 Feb 1997 07:19:36 EST, L Canthros wrote:

>I would assume that the VCR includes rigger jacks (it's
>mentioned in the Plus Ca Change story that Iris, the elf rigger, had a
>set of rigger jacks, implying more than one, on her temple), but that
>they are different from and cannot be used in place of a datajack, though
>a datajack could in certain circumstances (from what I've seen out on the
>web) be used in place of a VCR, though without the spectacular advantages
>normally acheived. So, I would assume that the rigger has a datajack for

Well, these not-advantages can be found in the CorpSec-Handbook, the
part dealing with equipment (as far as I remember at 2 o'clock in the
morning after some beer, but I think I'm right). I could look that up
anyway.

>the same reason many characters would have a datajack, to access
>information.

But I don't know if you can use rigger jacks just like datajacks, I think
that rigger protocols just can't be mapped to matrix ones. To make it
clear: datajack -> interface -> VCR works
VCR -> interface -> matrix is not possible AFAIK.

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Arno
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