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Message no. 1
From: Damion Milliken <adm82@***.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Riggers and VR
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 18:20:03 +1000
Patrick D. Little writes:

> I don't agree that rigging involves a VR experience at all. VR, in my
> opinion, involves submerging yourself in another existence where the
> perception is paramount. Therefore I believe your senses do not operate in
> VR just your perception does. Where rigging is a melding of man and machine
> into one. Your senses do operate while rigging, and you do receive input
> from sensors. Therefore, I see decking as a purely perception based
> experience and rigging as an experience which involves sensation and
> perception. As for using a sensory depervation tank, the purpose I see in
> this is the lessen the fatigue on long trips by allowing the rigger to
> concentrate on the input provided by the electronic sensors.
>
> I guess what I'm trying to say is a data jack does not VR make. Unless I
> have a different understanding of what VR is, which is entirely possible. I
> would like some feedback on this, please.

While I agree with your POV, I was noting that in one of the novels a rigger
used a sensory deprivation tank (can someone actually check that this was
the case, my novels are a few hours away from me at the moment and a little
hard to access). And, why would one use a sensory deprivation tank while
rigging, except to filter out the human bodies external stimuli. Which would
imply that such external, natural stimuli were unneccessary for rigging.
Which would lead us to the conclusion that rigging is a VR experience.
Which I didn't think was entirely correct (else all you'd need for rigging
would be a datajack, not a huge VCR rig).

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Damion Milliken University of Wollongong E-mail: adm82@***.edu.au

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Message no. 2
From: MENARD Steve <menars@***.UMONTREAL.CA>
Subject: Re: Riggers and VR
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 11:13:24 -0400
On Wed, 9 Aug 1995, Damion Milliken wrote:

> Patrick D. Little writes:
>
> > I don't agree that rigging involves a VR experience at all. VR, in my
> > opinion, involves submerging yourself in another existence where the
> > perception is paramount. Therefore I believe your senses do not operate in
> > VR just your perception does. Where rigging is a melding of man and machine
> > into one. Your senses do operate while rigging, and you do receive input
> > from sensors. Therefore, I see decking as a purely perception based
> > experience and rigging as an experience which involves sensation and
> > perception. As for using a sensory depervation tank, the purpose I see in
> > this is the lessen the fatigue on long trips by allowing the rigger to
> > concentrate on the input provided by the electronic sensors.
> >
> > I guess what I'm trying to say is a data jack does not VR make. Unless I
> > have a different understanding of what VR is, which is entirely possible. I
> > would like some feedback on this, please.
>
> While I agree with your POV, I was noting that in one of the novels a rigger
> used a sensory deprivation tank (can someone actually check that this was
> the case, my novels are a few hours away from me at the moment and a little
> hard to access). And, why would one use a sensory deprivation tank while
> rigging, except to filter out the human bodies external stimuli. Which would
> imply that such external, natural stimuli were unneccessary for rigging.
> Which would lead us to the conclusion that rigging is a VR experience.
> Which I didn't think was entirely correct (else all you'd need for rigging
> would be a datajack, not a huge VCR rig).

If I remember well, this novel is the one with the undercover cop,
right? Anyway, what they talk about is a RIGGER tank, not a sensory
deprivation one. Probably a rigger tank is more in the line of
comfort/taking care of body waste, etc...

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