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From:	Brian W Allison <ballison@*******.WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject:	Rudeness
Date:	Wed, 20 Nov 1996 19:23:41 -0500

Message no. 1 somebody said...

> Bullshit, read the above paragraph again.. Thankyou. Or does the
> concept of modifiers escape you???

I can be a bonehead, and miss a point (as I did with Gurth). And so can
someone else.

That doesn't give someone to be rude towards each other over it. When
Robert H. ran this list, such language would get you dropped from the list
automatically. (Yes, you could re-subscribe.)

My point?

Blood, but some people have no sense of humor. Or is it a lack of
patience?

Remember, ignorance is not rudeness, nor is a lack of perception.

Brian W. Allison

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From:	Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject:	Re: Rudeness
Date:	Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:00:27 +0100

Message no. 2 Brian W Allison said on 19:23/20 Nov 96...

> That doesn't give someone to be rude towards each other over it. When
> Robert H. ran this list, such language would get you dropped from the list
> automatically. (Yes, you could re-subscribe.)

I don't believe that ever stopped him from using it himself...

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From:	Brian W Allison <ballison@*******.WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject:	Re: Rudeness
Date:	Thu, 21 Nov 1996 20:22:56 -0500

Message no. 3 On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Gurth wrote:
> Brian W Allison said on 19:23/20 Nov 96...
>
> > That doesn't give someone to be rude towards each other over it. When
> > Robert H. ran this list, such language would get you dropped from the list
> > automatically. (Yes, you could re-subscribe.)
>
> I don't believe that ever stopped him from using it himself...

If you mean me, as in my being rude... I've been stupid at times as
well. But I've never sunk to the depths of using vulgarity or degrading
curses at someone.

And I never recall Robert ever cursing towards someone in an abusive
fashion.

Regardless, my original point stands. No, it may change nothing. But to
stand by and say nothing is tacit approval. I think most can agree that I
don't stand by and say nothing, unless I've nothing to say.

Brian W. Allison

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From:	Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject:	Re: Rudeness
Date:	Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:40:34 +0100

Message no. 4 Brian W Allison said on 20:22/21 Nov 96...

> If you mean me, as in my being rude... I've been stupid at times as
> well. But I've never sunk to the depths of using vulgarity or degrading
> curses at someone.

I was referring to Rob, not to you :)

> And I never recall Robert ever cursing towards someone in an abusive
> fashion.

I distinctly recall, for example, somebody posting a binary file to the
list (a color scan of the SR logo), and Rob's reaction to it as well...

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From:	BW Allison <ballison@***.UMD.EDU>
Subject:	Re: Rudeness
Date:	Fri, 22 Nov 1996 16:47:13 -0500

Message no. 5 On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, Gurth wrote:
> Brian W Allison said on 20:22/21 Nov 96...

> > And I never recall Robert ever cursing towards someone in an abusive
> > fashion.
>
> I distinctly recall, for example, somebody posting a binary file to the
> list (a color scan of the SR logo), and Rob's reaction to it as well...

Ah. Well then.

I'd have cursed a blue streak as well. Was that one of the times the
list died horribly? (Memory... 1989... <disk i/o error><(L)augh (C)ry
(D)rink yourself blind?>

But he never got that way, nor tolerated it, due to a less-than
intelligent vein of conversation or question.

In fact I seem to remember him being against the bashing of such things.

Wow. I'm *on campus* and reading e-mail. usually it's just "go to
class, back to work, home, sleep, work, to class.... " etc.

*sigh* Is it Christmas yet?

Brian W. Allison

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From:	Timothy P Cooper <tpcooper@***.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
Subject:	Re: Rudeness
Date:	Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:57:25 -0800

Message no. 6 > *sigh* Is it Christmas yet?
>
>
> Brian W. Allison
>
> Scuba Diver/Bicycler/Vocalist/Computer Scientist
> Hacker(0xca) Nerd(79) http://www.wam.umd.edu/~ballison
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From:	Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject:	Re: Rudeness
Date:	Sat, 23 Nov 1996 11:51:38 +0100

Message no. 7 BW Allison said on 16:47/22 Nov 96...

> > I distinctly recall, for example, somebody posting a binary file to the
> > list (a color scan of the SR logo), and Rob's reaction to it as well...
>
> Ah. Well then.
>
> I'd have cursed a blue streak as well. Was that one of the times the
> list died horribly? (Memory... 1989... <disk i/o error><(L)augh (C)ry
> (D)rink yourself blind?>

Was ShadowRN around in 1989? I thought it only got started up around 91 or
92, anyway a couple of years before I'd even heard of the game... I joined
in January 1994, and this was a couple of months later.

> *sigh* Is it Christmas yet?

Not yet. First comes Sinterklaas, _then_ Christmas... :)

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From:	"Paul J. Adam" <shadowrn@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:	Re: Rudeness
Date:	Sat, 23 Nov 1996 15:26:24 +0000

Message no. 8 In message <199611231052.LAA03708@**********.xs4all.nl>, Gurth
<gurth@******.NL> writes
>Was ShadowRN around in 1989? I thought it only got started up around 91 or
>92, anyway a couple of years before I'd even heard of the game... I joined
>in January 1994, and this was a couple of months later.

Nope, I started playing SR in 1989.

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From:	David Buehrer <dbuehrer@****.ORG>
Subject:	Re: Rudeness
Date:	Sat, 23 Nov 1996 09:40:45 -0700

Message no. 9 Paul J. Adam wrote:
|
|In message <199611231052.LAA03708@**********.xs4all.nl>, Gurth
|<gurth@******.NL> writes
|>Was ShadowRN around in 1989? I thought it only got started up around 91 or
|>92, anyway a couple of years before I'd even heard of the game... I joined
|>in January 1994, and this was a couple of months later.
|
|Nope, I started playing SR in 1989.

I think Gruth was asking about when the list ShadowRN
started, not when the game Shadowrun came out.

-David

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From:	Marty <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject:	Re: Rudeness
Date:	Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:34:35 +1000

Message no. 10 > >Was ShadowRN around in 1989? I thought it only got started up around 91 or
> >92, anyway a couple of years before I'd even heard of the game... I joined
> >in January 1994, and this was a couple of months later.
>
> Nope, I started playing SR in 1989.
>
What is this? Veterans recollections?

"And I've fought in all four World Wars"
-Bruce Ruxton.

Bleach

From:	Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject:	Re: Rudeness
Date:	Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:13:14 +0100

Message no. 11 Marty said on 11:34/25 Nov 96...

> > >Was ShadowRN around in 1989? I thought it only got started up around 91 or
> > >92, anyway a couple of years before I'd even heard of the game... I joined
> > >in January 1994, and this was a couple of months later.
> >
> > Nope, I started playing SR in 1989.
> >
> What is this? Veterans recollections?

Yeah, it seems to be. We old-timers are allowed to talk about how good it
all was way back when, aren't we?

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From:	Dvixen <dvixen@********.COM>
Subject:	Re: Rudeness
Date:	Mon, 25 Nov 1996 04:34:19 -0800

Message no. 12 >>>>Was ShadowRN around in 1989? I thought it only got started up around
91 or
>>>>92, anyway a couple of years before I'd even heard of the game... I
joined
>>>>in January 1994, and this was a couple of months later.
>>>
>>> Nope, I started playing SR in 1989.
>>>
>> What is this? Veterans recollections?
>
> Yeah, it seems to be. We old-timers are allowed to talk about how good
it
> all was way back when, aren't we?

Sure, if you don't mind letting your age show...

Anyone have an idea where the ShadowRN FAQ can be found?
Just watch, I'll actually find it this time after I send this...
All bow and pay homage to the ever pwerful Murphy...

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From:	Chris Maxfield <cmaxfiel@****.ORG.AU>
Subject:	Re: Rudeness
Date:	Mon, 25 Nov 1996 23:47:33 +1100

Message no. 13 At 11:34 AM 25/11/96 +1000, Marty wrote:
>> >Was ShadowRN around in 1989? I thought it only got started up around 91 or
>> >92, anyway a couple of years before I'd even heard of the game... I joined
>> >in January 1994, and this was a couple of months later.
>>
>> Nope, I started playing SR in 1989.
>>
>What is this? Veterans recollections?
>
>"And I've fought in all four World Wars"
> -Bruce Ruxton.
>
>Bleach
>
Chuckle. Chuckle. A bit of an in-joke there Bleach (but so true!). We'll
just keep sending him off to the wars until he finds that APDS bullet with
his name on it.

Chris

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From:	"M. Gotthard" <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject:	Re: Rudeness
Date:	Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:10:07 +1000

Message no. 14 > Chuckle. Chuckle. A bit of an in-joke there Bleach (but so true!). We'll
> just keep sending him off to the wars until he finds that APDS bullet with
> his name on it.
>

Hell, if I had my way it'd be a WP grenade with his name on it.

Bleach

From:	Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject:	Re: Rudeness
Date:	Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:25:23 +0100

Message no. 15 Dvixen said on 4:34/25 Nov 96...

> > Yeah, it seems to be. We old-timers are allowed to talk about how good it
> > all was way back when, aren't we?
>
> Sure, if you don't mind letting your age show...

Age? What age? :)

> Anyone have an idea where the ShadowRN FAQ can be found?
> Just watch, I'll actually find it this time after I send this...
> All bow and pay homage to the ever pwerful Murphy...

Maybe Fro can send you a copy? Or tell us all where it can be found,
perhaps...

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From:	Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject:	Re: Rudeness
Date:	Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:25:23 +0100

Message no. 16 Chris Maxfield said on 23:47/25 Nov 96...

> Chuckle. Chuckle. A bit of an in-joke there Bleach (but so true!). We'll
> just keep sending him off to the wars until he finds that APDS bullet with
> his name on it.

That's simple enough: all you have to do is what Baldrick did in
Blackadder Goes Forth...

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From:	Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject:	Re: Rudeness
Date:	Tue, 26 Nov 1996 13:56:10 +0000

Message no. 17 |
|Chris Maxfield said on 23:47/25 Nov 96...
|
|> Chuckle. Chuckle. A bit of an in-joke there Bleach (but so true!). We'll
|> just keep sending him off to the wars until he finds that APDS bullet with
|> his name on it.
|
|That's simple enough: all you have to do is what Baldrick did in
|Blackadder Goes Forth...

You mean, write your name on an APDS bullet, and keep it on a chain around
your neck.....
Yup, that'd work.... Apart from the fact that you might be holding the
bullet of someone else called Gurth....

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From:	Chris Maxfield <cmaxfiel@****.ORG.AU>
Subject:	Re: Rudeness
Date:	Wed, 27 Nov 1996 01:18:39 +1100

Message no. 18 At 12:25 PM 26/11/96 +0100, Gurth wrote:
>Chris Maxfield said on 23:47/25 Nov 96...
>
>> Chuckle. Chuckle. A bit of an in-joke there Bleach (but so true!). We'll
>> just keep sending him off to the wars until he finds that APDS bullet with
>> his name on it.
>
>That's simple enough: all you have to do is what Baldrick did in
>Blackadder Goes Forth...
>
>
Damn. You're going to have to remind me of this one Gurth. All I can
remember from that series is Baldrick's unique cappuccino recipe. :-)

Chris

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From:	Chris Maxfield <cmaxfiel@****.ORG.AU>
Subject:	Re: Rudeness
Date:	Wed, 27 Nov 1996 01:20:14 +1100

Message no. 19 At 01:56 PM 26/11/96 +0000, Spike wrote:
>|
>|Chris Maxfield said on 23:47/25 Nov 96...
>|
>|> Chuckle. Chuckle. A bit of an in-joke there Bleach (but so true!). We'll
>|> just keep sending him off to the wars until he finds that APDS bullet with
>|> his name on it.
>|
>|That's simple enough: all you have to do is what Baldrick did in
>|Blackadder Goes Forth...
>
>You mean, write your name on an APDS bullet, and keep it on a chain around
>your neck.....
>Yup, that'd work.... Apart from the fact that you might be holding the
>bullet of someone else called Gurth....
>
Damn! Yes that's it. Now I remember.

Chris

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From:	"Paul J. Adam" <paul@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:	Re: Rudeness
Date:	Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:49:01 +0000

Message no. 20 In message <199611261326.OAA23250@**********.xs4all.nl>, Gurth
<gurth@******.NL> writes
>Chris Maxfield said on 23:47/25 Nov 96...
>> Chuckle. Chuckle. A bit of an in-joke there Bleach (but so true!). We'll
>> just keep sending him off to the wars until he finds that APDS bullet with
>> his name on it.
>
>That's simple enough: all you have to do is what Baldrick did in
>Blackadder Goes Forth...

"It ain't the bullet with your name on it you got to worry about, New
Guy. It's all the ones that say 'To Whom It May Concern'..."

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praiseworthy."
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From:	Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject:	Re: Rudeness
Date:	Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:36:18 +0100

Message no. 21 Chris Maxfield said on 1:18/27 Nov 96...

> >That's simple enough: all you have to do is what Baldrick did in
> >Blackadder Goes Forth...
> >
> Damn. You're going to have to remind me of this one Gurth. All I can
> remember from that series is Baldrick's unique cappuccino recipe. :-)

It went something like this:
Blackadder says to Baldrick: "What are you doing, Baldrick?"
"I'm carving my name into this bullet, sir!"
"Why?"
"They say there's a bullet with your name on it, sir, so I thought that if
I had that bullet, I can't get shot with it!"

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From:	Chris Maxfield <cmaxfiel@****.ORG.AU>
Subject:	Re: Rudeness
Date:	Fri, 29 Nov 1996 01:17:01 +1100

Message no. 22 At 12:36 PM 27/11/96 +0100, Gurth wrote:
>Chris Maxfield said on 1:18/27 Nov 96...
>
>> >That's simple enough: all you have to do is what Baldrick did in
>> >Blackadder Goes Forth...
>> >
>> Damn. You're going to have to remind me of this one Gurth. All I can
>> remember from that series is Baldrick's unique cappuccino recipe. :-)
>
>It went something like this:
>Blackadder says to Baldrick: "What are you doing, Baldrick?"
>"I'm carving my name into this bullet, sir!"
>"Why?"
>"They say there's a bullet with your name on it, sir, so I thought that if
>I had that bullet, I can't get shot with it!"
>
Thanks :->

Chris

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