Back to the main page

Mailing List Logs for ShadowRN

Message no. 1
From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Running to GridSec?/Proper Subject lines
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 17:11:09 -0400
At 04:05 PM 5/1/98 EDT, you wrote:

>Get used to it. It was a similar frustration that led to my post using
>the word "Gestapo". The only thing I can think that could help is that
>every time you see a post you don't like is report it to GridSec. Perhaps
>things would be a little more even handed.

I don't want to do that and I doubt GridSec would appreciate it either.
I'm not going to go running to got tell on "bob" to GridSec. "GridSec,
there's anoooother off-topic posting, make them stooopppp!" <stomps foot>

Not from me. I'd rather tease them with Gong Show references.

Look. Tinner was grumpy and unnecesarily jumped on my case. I got
defensive, because I thought I was doing the proper thing, as per list
etiquette. Neither of us behaved as a model netizen should, but a simple
human beings, prone to errors and mistakes.

<bear with me please>

Truth be told, certain people on this list rub me the wrong way, in varying
degrees; Drekhead happens to be one of them so I tend to react stronger to
anything he has to say. I'm sure I'm on a few kill files on this list and
I'm sure I rub other people, probably Drekhead among them, the wrong way
too. That's life; not everyone can be like Gurth and be loved and adored
by everyone (except maybe MC23 <j/k!>).

In other words, we don't all like each other. The ONLY common interest we
can all be assured of is Shadowrun. When we post something off that topic,
I understand that not everyone wants to read that message. That's why
proper subject headers are so critical, not only for the person making the
posting, but also for the person reading the list. This applies even
within the province of SR; when the Matrix comes up, my eyes tend to glaze
over and I go fuzzy. But politics or magic, man, I'm there dude!

But I also know that Shadowrun isn't the *only* interest many of us share.
Lots of us, across national boundaries, love Babylon 5. Some people like
this Pratchet author. Authors have fond memories of Bunnicula (while mine
is extremely foggy on that). It's not a crime to post something about
these other topics as long as we make it clear that they are clearly
off-topic, and discussion of them should be limited on the list.

Look, we here at RN are a big giant international dsyfunctional family. We
all just have to deal with that.

It may be hard for some people to believe, but I do try very hard to not
just haul off on people; back when I was given the name
"list.member.grumpy" I lobbed Molotov Coctails around this list like they
were common water ballons. If you can believe it, I think I might at times
have put Spike to shame with my incendiary viciousness. And occassionaly I
have a minor relapse or two, especially when my "etiquette" is called into
question, as Tinner seemed to do.

Hell, I don't know if you can believe it, but while I was doing my ranting
about GridSec earlier this week (was it this week or last?) I was also
trying to be a firefighter/peacemaker over on Plot-D. Things were in grave
danger of getting ugly because of some TK content a few people found
objectionable.

I even came up with the solution that seems to have resolved the problem.
So I'm not always an agitator, looking to cause trouble. Honest.

Anyway, I'm in a better mood now. Couple of good phone calls, the boss is
happy, and I'm about 3 and a half hours away from the weekend. Beer,
sleep, video games, walking my cat and NBA play-off basketball. Looking
forward to that...

Erik J.


"Ladies & Gentleman, the newest member of the band, the one and only Spice
Boy, GRUMPY SPICE!!!" <and the crowd goes wild!!!>
Message no. 2
From: Geoff Morochnick <bodiam@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Running to GridSec?/Proper Subject lines
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 20:07:20 -0400
> I don't want to do that and I doubt GridSec would appreciate it either.
> I'm not going to go running to got tell on "bob" to GridSec.
"GridSec,
> there's anoooother off-topic posting, make them stooopppp!" <stomps foot>
>
> Not from me. I'd rather tease them with Gong Show references.
>
> Look. Tinner was grumpy and unnecesarily jumped on my case. I got
> defensive, because I thought I was doing the proper thing, as per list
> etiquette. Neither of us behaved as a model netizen should, but a simple
> human beings, prone to errors and mistakes.
>
> <bear with me please>
>
> Truth be told, certain people on this list rub me the wrong way, in varying
> degrees; Drekhead happens to be one of them so I tend to react stronger to
> anything he has to say. I'm sure I'm on a few kill files on this list and
> I'm sure I rub other people, probably Drekhead among them, the wrong way
> too. That's life; not everyone can be like Gurth and be loved and adored
> by everyone (except maybe MC23 <j/k!>).
>
> In other words, we don't all like each other. The ONLY common interest we
> can all be assured of is Shadowrun. When we post something off that topic,
> I understand that not everyone wants to read that message. That's why
> proper subject headers are so critical, not only for the person making the
> posting, but also for the person reading the list. This applies even
> within the province of SR; when the Matrix comes up, my eyes tend to glaze
> over and I go fuzzy. But politics or magic, man, I'm there dude!
>
> But I also know that Shadowrun isn't the *only* interest many of us share.
> Lots of us, across national boundaries, love Babylon 5. Some people like
> this Pratchet author. Authors have fond memories of Bunnicula (while mine
> is extremely foggy on that). It's not a crime to post something about
> these other topics as long as we make it clear that they are clearly
> off-topic, and discussion of them should be limited on the list.
>
> Look, we here at RN are a big giant international dsyfunctional family. We
> all just have to deal with that.
>
> It may be hard for some people to believe, but I do try very hard to not
> just haul off on people; back when I was given the name
> "list.member.grumpy" I lobbed Molotov Coctails around this list like they
> were common water ballons. If you can believe it, I think I might at times
> have put Spike to shame with my incendiary viciousness. And occassionaly I
> have a minor relapse or two, especially when my "etiquette" is called into
> question, as Tinner seemed to do.
>
> Hell, I don't know if you can believe it, but while I was doing my ranting
> about GridSec earlier this week (was it this week or last?) I was also
> trying to be a firefighter/peacemaker over on Plot-D. Things were in grave
> danger of getting ugly because of some TK content a few people found
> objectionable.
>
> I even came up with the solution that seems to have resolved the problem.
> So I'm not always an agitator, looking to cause trouble. Honest.
>
> Anyway, I'm in a better mood now. Couple of good phone calls, the boss is
> happy, and I'm about 3 and a half hours away from the weekend. Beer,
> sleep, video games, walking my cat and NBA play-off basketball. Looking
> forward to that...
>
> Erik J.

<wild applause>
Yay!
</wild applause>
--
Stonebow
Friends: People who know you well, but like you anyway.
bodiam@**********.com
http://www.geocities.com/area51/corridor/8427
Message no. 3
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Running to GridSec?/Proper Subject lines
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 18:46:20 +0100
And verily, did Erik Jameson hastily scribble thusly...
|It may be hard for some people to believe, but I do try very hard to not
|just haul off on people; back when I was given the name
|"list.member.grumpy"

huh? Wha?...
Did someone call?
<reads more closely>
Ahhhh. Forget I spoke....

I lobbed Molotov Coctails around this list like they
|were common water ballons. If you can believe it, I think I might at times
|have put Spike to shame with my incendiary viciousness.

Nahhhh....
I can't believe that....
:)

Mind you, I always preferred carp to molotov cocktails.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a |
| | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit |
|Andrew Halliwell | operating system originally coded for a 4 bit |
|Principal Subjects in:- |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
|Comp Sci & Electronics | can't stand 1 bit of competition. |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ o+ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ |
|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
Message no. 4
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Running to GridSec?/Proper Subject lines
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 19:04:45 +0100
And verily, did Geoff Morochnick hastily scribble thusly...
<ENTIRE LONG POST SNIPPED>

|<wild applause>
|Yay!
|</wild applause>

And you quoted the entire post just to add THAT?

##### # # # # ## #####
# # # # # # # # #
# ###### # # # # # #
# # # # ## # ###### #####
# # # ## ## # # #
# # # # # # # #

STOP IT!
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a |
| | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit |
|Andrew Halliwell | operating system originally coded for a 4 bit |
|Principal Subjects in:- |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
|Comp Sci & Electronics | can't stand 1 bit of competition. |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ o+ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ |
|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
Message no. 5
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: Running to GridSec?/Proper Subject lines
Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 08:10:03 -0600
Erik Jameson wrote:
/
[snip: running to GridSec]
/
/ Not from me. I'd rather tease them with Gong Show references.

Okay, as long as I get to be Jammie Farr ;)

-David
--
"That which we do not know supports that which we know."
- Joseph Campbell
--
email: dbuehrer@******.carl.org
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/1068/homepage.htm
Message no. 6
From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Running to GridSec?/Proper Subject lines
Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 13:37:19 -0400
At 08:10 AM 5/5/98 -0600, David Buehrer wrote:
>Erik Jameson wrote:
>/
>[snip: running to GridSec]
>/
>/ Not from me. I'd rather tease them with Gong Show references.
>
>Okay, as long as I get to be Jammie Farr ;)
>

Well, if your *really* want to be Jamie Farr, I won't be the one to stop you.

Don't know why anyone would *want* to be Jamie Farr, but hey, far be it
from me to tell you what to do.

;-)

Erik J.


"Ladies & Gentleman, the newest member of the band, the one and only Spice
Boy, GRUMPY SPICE!!!" <and the crowd goes wild!!!>
Message no. 7
From: Katt Freyson <katt@******.NET>
Subject: Re: Running to GridSec?/Proper Subject lines
Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 15:46:24 -0400
|> From: Of David Buehrer
|> Sent: May 5, 1998 10:10 AM
|> Subject: Re: Running to GridSec?/Proper Subject lines

|> / Not from me. I'd rather tease them with Gong Show references.
|>
|> Okay, as long as I get to be Jammie Farr ;)

OOOOh, can I be the Unknown Comic? I look good in a paper bag.

Katt

Further Reading

If you enjoyed reading about Running to GridSec?/Proper Subject lines, you may also be interested in:

Disclaimer

These messages were posted a long time ago on a mailing list far, far away. The copyright to their contents probably lies with the original authors of the individual messages, but since they were published in an electronic forum that anyone could subscribe to, and the logs were available to subscribers and most likely non-subscribers as well, it's felt that re-publishing them here is a kind of public service.