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Message no. 1
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Lone Eagle)
Subject: Seattle, getting the feel for things.
Date: Mon Aug 19 08:45:01 2002
Having stolen Gurth's calender idea (so that I at least know what day it
is,) and drawn up calenders for 2057-2065 a thought occured to me. I know, I
know - not a thing that happens often...

But anyway, I had the idea why not mark those calenders with the weather on
that day, now so far we've always done the "It's Seattle, it's obviously
raining." thing but as we're currently in early August 2057 I thought.
"It can't rain every day, what is the weather in Seattle really like?" So I
tried to grab some weather reports. Unfortunately I can't find anything
which offers more than a few days forcast, does anyone know if there are
records for previous years where I could pick up say ten years worth of
precipitation, fog, sun...etc records to put into my calender? or at least
something that shows more than a week of forecasts?



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Message no. 2
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Lone Eagle)
Subject: Seattle, getting the feel for things.
Date: Mon Aug 19 08:45:03 2002
Having stolen Gurth's calender idea (so that I at least know what day it
is,) and drawn up calenders for 2057-2065 a thought occured to me. I know, I
know - not a thing that happens often...

But anyway, I had the idea why not mark those calenders with the weather on
that day, now so far we've always done the "It's Seattle, it's obviously
raining." thing but as we're currently in early August 2057 I thought.
"It can't rain every day, what is the weather in Seattle really like?" So I
tried to grab some weather reports. Unfortunately I can't find anything
which offers more than a few days forcast, does anyone know if there are
records for previous years where I could pick up say ten years worth of
precipitation, fog, sun...etc records to put into my calender? or at least
something that shows more than a week of forecasts?

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Message no. 3
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Lone Eagle)
Subject: Seattle, getting the feel for things.
Date: Mon Aug 19 09:05:01 2002
No Idea why I just double posted, sorry about that.

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Message no. 4
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Darius van wijk)
Subject: Seattle, getting the feel for things.
Date: Mon Aug 19 09:30:01 2002
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lone Eagle" <loneeagle2061@*******.com>
To: <shadowrn@*********.com>
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 2:48 PM
Subject: Seattle, getting the feel for things.


> Having stolen Gurth's calender idea (so that I at least know what day it
> is,) and drawn up calenders for 2057-2065 a thought occured to me. I know,
I
> know - not a thing that happens often...
>
> But anyway, I had the idea why not mark those calenders with the weather
on
> that day, now so far we've always done the "It's Seattle, it's obviously
> raining." thing but as we're currently in early August 2057 I thought.
> "It can't rain every day, what is the weather in Seattle really like?" So
I
> tried to grab some weather reports. Unfortunately I can't find anything
> which offers more than a few days forcast, does anyone know if there are
> records for previous years where I could pick up say ten years worth of
> precipitation, fog, sun...etc records to put into my calender? or at least
> something that shows more than a week of forecasts?
>

If you open an E-mail account with Yahoo, you can go to a section called My
Yahoo once you have logged in.
In there is a weather section that gives you a 4 or 5 day forecast.
You can select the city you want the weather report on.

That's the best I know of.
Message no. 5
From: shadowrn@*********.com (pete filipe)
Subject: Seattle, getting the feel for things.
Date: Mon Aug 19 11:45:00 2002
I use three methods to determine what the weather is
like in my game:

1) the easiest - I just make it up, I'm the GM.

2) almost as easy - I just look up what the weather is
like in Seattle on the day I run a game.

3) I roll a d6 - a one is sunny, two is overcast,
three is a light morning or evening rain, four is a
steady rain, five is a downpour, six is a
thunderstorm. This is a little stereotypical, but when
my players want to know what the weather is, and I
haven't thought about it, they always hand me a d6 to
find out.

I use this last method to determine the air quality
too (assuming it isn't rainy) - one or two is normal,
three or four is smoggy, five gets a quality warning,
six requires breathers and irritates the skin (and
introduces a small TN penalty to the unprotected). A
purely sunny day, and /or being in polluted areas both
modify this roll.


====Pete
player, GM, and general SR addict.

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Message no. 6
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Damion Milliken)
Subject: Seattle, getting the feel for things.
Date: Mon Aug 19 20:45:02 2002
Lone Eagle writes:

> But anyway, I had the idea why not mark those calenders with the weather
> on that day, now so far we've always done the "It's Seattle, it's obviously
> raining." thing but as we're currently in early August 2057 I thought. "It
> can't rain every day, what is the weather in Seattle really like?" So I
> tried to grab some weather reports. Unfortunately I can't find anything
> which offers more than a few days forcast, does anyone know if there are
> records for previous years where I could pick up say ten years worth of
> precipitation, fog, sun...etc records to put into my calender? or at least
> something that shows more than a week of forecasts?

What would be handy is a table of weather predictions vs what actually
happened. That way, you could tell the players "the weatehr forecast for the
night of your run is a light wind with occasionally spots of rain". And have
it turn out to be what it actually was in 1992, a clear night with 6 degrees
below the average and no cloud.

I kept the following old post, which might be helpful:

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: "S.F. Eley" <gt6877c@*****.GATECH.EDU>

Hey folks.. There were questions raised here a few days ago about shamans
conjuring wind spirits, and if there were any homespun rules for figuring
out Seattle weather. I hunted down some minimal climate information over
the Web tonight, and pounded out a rough table.. I just made it up an hour
ago, so it hasn't been playtested yet. If any of you actually use this,
I'd appreciate a line letting me know if it works, or what refinements or
corrections need to be made.

Thanks, Steve Bugge, for posting your own Seattle weather experiences. The
whole Storm column is pretty much based on what you wrote. >8-> It also
altered a few other numbers slightly, though for the most part I used the
long-term climatology (adding a few degrees of temperature from local heat
pollution and Greenhouse Effect.)

Without further ado......


--- (snip, snip) ---


S.F.'s SEATTLE WEATHER SYSTEM, v. 1.0
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
by Stephen F. Eley
gt6877c@*****.gatech.edu

This system is VERY loosely based on factual information drawn from current
Seattle weather trends, taken from SeaNet's World Wide Web page at:
http://www.seanet.com/Seattle/General/weather/weather.html; and from
shorter-term personal observations provided by Stephen M. Bugge. In
general, I used SeaNet's page for the typical number of rain days, and
Steve Bugge's information for storms.. In general, I just made things up.
If something on this table contradicts 20th century fact, blame it on the
temperature inversions over the Metroplex in 2055. Yeah, that's it.


Seattle Weather Table:

P R E C I P I T A T I O N TEMPERATURE
CLEAR CLOUDY RAIN STORM HIGH LOW
----- ------ ---- ----- ---- ---
JANUARY 2 3-6 7-10 11-12 8 1

FEBRUARY 2 3-6 7-9 10-12 10 2

MARCH 2 3-6 7-10 11-12 12 2

APRIL 2 3-7 8-9 10-12 15 5

MAY 2-3 4-7 8-9 10-12 20 7

JUNE 2-4 5-8 9-10 11-12 22 10

JULY 2-5 6-10 11 12 25 12

AUGUST 2-5 6-9 10 11-12 25 12

SEPTEMBER 2-4 5-8 9-10 11-12 22 10

OCTOBER 2-3 4-7 8-9 10-12 17 7

NOVEMBER 2 3-6 7-8 9-12 10 2

DECEMBER 2 3-6 7-9 10-12 8 2


USING THIS TABLE:
The system's actually pretty simple, and is divided into two parts.

1.) PRECIPITATION: Roll 2d6. Consult the handy-dandy Weather Table, and
cross-reference against the appropriate month. Find the number you
rolled in the first four columns for that month.. The column will tell
you whether the skies are clear or cloudy that day, if it will rain that
day, or if there will be a thunderstorm on that day. The key point is
that this is DAILY weather, not current conditions.. The table's not
designed for you to roll five minutes later to see if it stopped
raining. When it rains, and how much, is a Gamemaster decision. If
he likes, he can use the relative weight of the dice roll. Same goes
for partly cloudy skies -- high Clear rolls, or low Cloudy rolls, may
be interpreted as Partly Cloudy if the GM wishes.

2.) TEMPERATURE: There are two Temperature columns, one for the day's High
and one for the day's Low. Both are in degrees Celsius, and both
represent the AVERAGE for that month. Roll 2d6, then 1d6. Subtract 2
from the first roll -- that's the day's deviation from the average. The
second roll indicates whether the temperature is lower (1-3) or higher
(4-6) than the average. This deviation affects both the High AND the
Low for the day, unless the GM chooses otherwise.. In general, the High
temperature for the day will happen in the afternoon, and the Low will
happen in early morning. Use middle ranges proportionally for other
times. (What're they doing out in that afternoon heat anyway? They're
Shadowrunners!)


SPIRITS OF AIR:

In general, shamans can conjure Mist Spirits from late evening through
early morning of any day that is Cloudy. (Yes, this includes just after
sunrise, but it doesn't last long.. Once the morning fog burns away, the
spirit no longer has a domain.) They can also summon Mist Spirits when
rain is very light; this is at GM's discretion. Harder rain becomes the
domain of Storm Spirits, but summoning is at a +2 TN modifier unless the
weather is an actual Storm. (Hardcore players may balk at the modifier,
claiming that by the book, domains are absolute. If they complain like
this, fine; Rain conditions are then never the domain of Storm Spirits,
only Storm conditions are. It's all a matter of belief, and the shaman
just expressed the flexibility of her beliefs.)


--- (snip, snip) ---


Blessings,

_TNX._

--
Stephen F. Eley (-) gt6877c@*****.gatech.edu )-( Student Pagan Community
http://wc62.residence.gatech.edu| "Don't take life too seriously.
My opinions are my opinions. | You will never get out of it
Please don't blame anyone else. | alive." -- (Unknown)

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--
Damion Milliken University of Wollongong
Unofficial Shadowrun Guru E-mail: dam01@***.edu.au
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Message no. 7
From: shadowrn@*********.com (david lowe-rogstad)
Subject: Seattle, getting the feel for things.
Date: Thu Aug 22 10:10:02 2002
At 12:48 PM +0000 8/19/02, Lone Eagle wrote:
>
>"It can't rain every day, what is the weather in Seattle really like?"

you never lived in Seattle, have you?

seriously, i remember summer in Seattle to be pretty awesome. lots of
sunshine, mild temperatures (mid 80s to mid 90's, sometimes a little
cooler and sometimes a lot warmer for a day or two).

you could pretty much still expect rain any day, but in the
summertime you got brief (30 min or so) showers or thunderstorms at
night. i'd say we would get rain 1-2 days a week in the summer, but
never anything to stop what you were doing.

come mid-September though, kiss your sunglasses goodbye. you won't
see the sun for any length of time until May. on the rare day you
don't get rain, it will be overcast.

one common mis-perception is how hard it rains. you will get days and
even a week or three of real heavy, stay indoors and get raft ready
rain, but most of the rainy days in Seattle are mild, wet days.
enough to keep things green, but not huge rain storms for eight
months solid.

hope this helps.

d.
--
david lowe-rogstad
flash designer + developer
dlowe@****.com
http://www.lowephoto.com

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