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Message no. 1
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Travis K. Heldibridle)
Subject: Seattle Map Scale?
Date: Sat May 26 04:35:01 2001
hey folks,


Do any of the books specify the size of Seattle? I've noticed that none of
the maps seem to have a scale. I was looking to attempt a small mapping
project, but could use something to go off of. If not, would anyone familiar
with that area care to venture a guess? If I could even get a sound estimate
on the distance from the tip of Everett to the southern most point of
Puyallup I could probably use the grid behind the map in the Seattle book to
figure out the rest.


Thanks for any help you might be able to offer,
--Aristotle (The every annoying)
Message no. 2
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: Seattle Map Scale?
Date: Sat May 26 06:10:13 2001
According to Travis K. Heldibridle, on Sat, 26 May 2001 the word on the street was...

> Do any of the books specify the size of Seattle? I've noticed that none of
> the maps seem to have a scale. I was looking to attempt a small mapping
> project, but could use something to go off of. If not, would anyone familiar
> with that area care to venture a guess? If I could even get a sound estimate
> on the distance from the tip of Everett to the southern most point of
> Puyallup I could probably use the grid behind the map in the Seattle book to
> figure out the rest.

Years ago, I photocopied the maps from the Seattle Sourcebook to make one
large map, and I somehow worked out the (approximate) scale, though I can't
remember how I did it :)

*measures line drawn on map* Anyway, I ended up with 5.5 cm on the map
equals 10 km -- IOW, roughly a scale of 1:1,800,000. Note that this doesn't
work for the Seattle/Downtown map, as that's larger than the others by
something like 15%.

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Message no. 3
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Euphonium)
Subject: Seattle Map Scale?
Date: Sat May 26 06:45:00 2001
----- Original Message -----
From: "Travis K. Heldibridle" <antithesis@**********.com>
To: "Shadowrn" <shadowrn@*********.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 9:41 AM
Subject: Seattle Map Scale?


> hey folks,
>
>
> Do any of the books specify the size of Seattle? I've noticed that none of
> the maps seem to have a scale. I was looking to attempt a small mapping
> project, but could use something to go off of. If not, would anyone
familiar
> with that area care to venture a guess? If I could even get a sound
estimate
> on the distance from the tip of Everett to the southern most point of
> Puyallup I could probably use the grid behind the map in the Seattle book
to
> figure out the rest.
>
>
> Thanks for any help you might be able to offer,
> --Aristotle (The every annoying)
>
>
>

According to my mapping programs (MS Streets & Tips 2001 & Delorme TopoUSA
2) it is 84 miles from the northern most point in Everett to the southermost
part of Puyallup
Message no. 4
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Iridios)
Subject: Seattle Map Scale?
Date: Sat May 26 11:15:01 2001
"Travis K. Heldibridle" wrote:
>
> hey folks,
>
> Do any of the books specify the size of Seattle? I've noticed that none of
> the maps seem to have a scale. I was looking to attempt a small mapping
> project, but could use something to go off of. If not, would anyone familiar
> with that area care to venture a guess? If I could even get a sound estimate
> on the distance from the tip of Everett to the southern most point of
> Puyallup I could probably use the grid behind the map in the Seattle book to
> figure out the rest.

Not completely accurate, but I worked out that the distance between those
hash marks that run along the sides. By my calculation they represent
approximately 4 km in distance.

Iridios
Message no. 5
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: Seattle Map Scale?
Date: Sat May 26 13:20:06 2001
According to Gurth, on Sat, 26 May 2001 the word on the street was...

> Years ago, I photocopied the maps from the Seattle Sourcebook to make one
> large map, and I somehow worked out the (approximate) scale, though I can't
> remember how I did it :)

I just remembered: the early adventures have amap of part of Seattle next
to the table of contents, and that includes a scale; on it, there's a line
with underneath it the text "2.5 cm = 6 kilometers" but as the line is much
shorter than 2.5 cm, it's safe to assume the map is printed smaller than it
was intended to be. At any rate, measuring the line tells us it's 10.5 mm,
so 10.5 mm equals 6 km.

Now the distance on the map from almost the top point of Everett (without
that little bit sticking out at the top) to the border between Tacoma and
Puyalup that runs east-west, is 18 cm. 18 / 1.05 x 6 = 103, so that
distance IRL would be 103 km.

Measuring my photocopied map, the distance between those same points is
about 53 cm, so the scale of the Seattle Sourcebook maps is in the order of
1:194,000 (I must have made a typo in the other message), or 1 cm on the
map equals some 2 km IRL. From the very north of Everett to the southern
edge of Puyallup is 75.5 cm on my map, which scales out to roughly 150 km.
I have no idea how this fits with RL distances, though...

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Message no. 6
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Steven Spiroff)
Subject: Seattle Map Scale?
Date: Sat May 26 13:40:01 2001
"Travis K. Heldibridle" <antithesis@**********.com> said:
> Do any of the books specify the size of Seattle? I've noticed that none of
> the maps seem to have a scale. I was looking to attempt a small mapping
> project, but could use something to go off of. If not, would anyone familiar
> with that area care to venture a guess? If I could even get a sound estimate
> on the distance from the tip of Everett to the southern most point of
> Puyallup I could probably use the grid behind the map in the Seattle book to
> figure out the rest.

Try http://maps.yahoo.com or http://mapquest.com
Put in Seattle, WA, zoom back until you get the right level of detail you want,
then look at the scale shown on the map to determine the distance.

I used to have a bunch of links for Seattle, one in particular had a lot of
maps and nice things. Anyone still have them?

Cheers!
Steven

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Message no. 7
From: shadowrn@*********.com (shadowrn@*********.com)
Subject: Seattle Map Scale?
Date: Sat May 26 17:15:01 2001
On Sat, 26 May 2001 04:41:38 -0400 "Travis K. Heldibridle"
<antithesis@**********.com> writes:
> hey folks,
>
>
> Do any of the books specify the size of Seattle?
<SNIP>

Look for an atlas of Seatle of the same time as the printing of the
Seatle SB; they're the same map, just about. :)

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- Troutman's 6th programming postulate.
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