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Message no. 1
From: Luke Kendall <luke@********.CANON.OZ.AU>
Subject: Secret agencies (Was: What happened in the future ?)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 10:18:43 +1100
Jan-bart van Beek asked:

> Right now I am working on a big plot which involves some secret service
> agencies. So I like to know what happened to orghanizations like the CIA
> and NSA after tghe fragmentation of the USA. What happened to their
> operations in the CAS and NAN lands. I know that they still existed
> during the crash of '29 and that they worked together to kill the virus
> in Echo Mirage.

We play that they went through a bad patch when the USA broke up; but
they had so many contacts with business and drug lords etc. that they
were able to continue to fund their own activities. Naturally, they
had to scale down their operations a great deal, though.

Because of this change, they became much more autonomous (and if you
don't find that a frightening concept, you should). As well, one
assumes that prolonged association with criminals and reliance on
criminal means of obtaining funds, would have have similar unpleasant
effects on the nature of the organisation.

However, the organisation would still be occasionally useful to the
UCAS government. Just that the master-servant roles would no longer
be pretended to.

We also play that the FBI still exists, but its nature is little changed
from what it is today.

You may like to use a personal `invention', the Bureau of Internal
Development, a low-profile organisation whose aim is the (impossible?)
re-creation of the USA.

Overall, the social and political environment of Shadowrun would
be as fertile for secret agencies, as the Cold War period was, IMHO.
Except it would be equally fertile for secret societies and criminal
organisations such as the Triads and Yakuza.

As far as Hawaii - with things like that, there's often the surface
story (what the news media reports), the `real' story (what the people
involved think they're doing it for), and then there's the facts
(what strings were pulled to start the thing in the first place).

Anyway, that's my 2c.

luke

`Good god, man - he's travelling at twice the speed of light!'
Message no. 2
From: Joel Ricker <a018907t@*********.SEFLIN.LIB.FL.US>
Subject: Re: Secret agencies (Was: What happened in the future ?)
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 20:59:29 -0500
On Tue, 10 Jan 1995, Luke Kendall wrote:

> Jan-bart van Beek asked:
>
> > Right now I am working on a big plot which involves some secret service
> > agencies. So I like to know what happened to orghanizations like the CIA
> > and NSA after tghe fragmentation of the USA. What happened to their
> > operations in the CAS and NAN lands. I know that they still existed
> > during the crash of '29 and that they worked together to kill the virus
> > in Echo Mirage.
>
> We also play that the FBI still exists, but its nature is little changed
> from what it is today.
>

In "Burning Bright" Tom Dowd's new book, Mentions the Federal Bureau of
Investigation of Paranormal Affairs.
Message no. 3
From: Flint <Mathieu.Dhondt@***.AC.BE>
Subject: Re: Secret agencies (Was: What happened in the future ?)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 11:13:57 +0100
On Tue, 10 Jan 1995, Luke Kendall wrote:

> We also play that the FBI still exists, but its nature is little changed
> from what it is today.
The Mister Johnson from "Double Exposure" is an FBI agent.

Flint.

"My boy, if ever you are lost at sea, drop right in and think of me."
- J. Heller
Message no. 4
From: Flint <Mathieu.Dhondt@***.AC.BE>
Subject: Re: Secret agencies (Was: What happened in the future ?)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 11:25:37 +0100
On Tue, 10 Jan 1995, Flint wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jan 1995, Luke Kendall wrote:
>
> > We also play that the FBI still exists, but its nature is little changed
> > from what it is today.
> The Mister Johnson from "Double Exposure" is an FBI agent.
What I meant is that the FBI officially still exists.
>
> Flint.
>
> "My boy, if ever you are lost at sea, drop right in and think of me."
> - J. Heller
>

"My boy, if ever you are lost at sea, drop right in and think of me."
- J. Heller
Message no. 5
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@****.CAIS.COM>
Subject: Re: Secret agencies (Was: What happened in the future ?)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 15:48:33 -0500
On Tue, 10 Jan 1995, Flint wrote:

> What I meant is that the FBI officially still exists.

Right now, in 1995, the only reason any civilians know the FBI
does more than paper-shuffling is T.V. shows and movies. Actually, I've
heard that _most_ of what the FBI does _is_ paper-shuffling!
Anything else is classified. *grin*

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Message no. 6
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Secret agencies (Was: What happened in the future ?)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 13:23:46 +0100
>We also play that the FBI still exists, but its nature is little changed
>from what it is today.

In at least one of the SR adventures (can't remember which one and I don't
feel like looking it up right now :), the PCs get chased by the UCAS FBI.


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