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Message no. 1
From: Adam J <adamj@*********.HTML.COM>
Subject: [Semi-OT] Earthdawn News
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 01:57:38 -0700
From Pyramid magazine: (Can't post the full article. Copyrights and money,
you know)

Earthdawn is dead, and any chances of it being sold are gone. Dragons will
come out for free on the web. They're also hoping to publish some of the
already written novels online, too.

An interesting quote: "One door closes, a new door opens -- if we hadn’t
shut down Renegade Legion, we wouldn’t have Shadowrun today." -- Jill Lucas

-Adam J
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Message no. 2
From: K in the Shadows <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: [Semi-OT] Earthdawn News
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:26:06 EST
In a message dated 1/15/1999 3:52:54 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
adamj@*********.HTML.COM writes:

>
> An interesting quote: "One door closes, a new door opens -- if we hadn=
’t
> shut down Renegade Legion, we wouldn’t have Shadowrun today." -- Jill=
Lucas
>
I was wondering how long it would be until this happened...

-K
Message no. 3
From: "Blair A. Monroe" <bmonroe@******.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: [Semi-OT] Earthdawn News
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:04:36 -0500
At 01:57 AM 1/15/99 -0700, Adam J wrote:
>>From Pyramid magazine: (Can't post the full article. Copyrights and money,
>you know)
>
>Earthdawn is dead, and any chances of it being sold are gone. Dragons will
>come out for free on the web. They're also hoping to publish some of the
>already written novels online, too.
>
>An interesting quote: "One door closes, a new door opens -- if we hadn’t
>shut down Renegade Legion, we wouldn’t have Shadowrun today." -- Jill Lucas
>
>-Adam J
>--
>< http://shadowrun.html.com/tss / adamj@*********.html.com >
>< ShadowRN Assistant Fearless Leader / TSA Co-Admin / ICQ# 2350330 >
>< FreeRPG & Shadowrun Webring Co-Admin / The Shadowrun Supplemental >
>< ShadowFAQ: http://shadowrun.html.com/shadowfaq >
>< "I know one thing, it's about damn time I got new entrance music.">
>< -Mankind, 01/10/99 RAW is WAR. >
>
>

Also note that the reason they have finally given up all hope of selling
Earthdawn is that Microsoft purchased FASA Interactive. According to the
article, which was an interview with Jill Lucas, the MS purchase included
the rights to all FASA games which left FASA choosing to kill it once and
for all rather than complicate things trying to enter into more rights
agreements.

I hate to sound alarmist or pessimistic or even like a doomsayer, but I
would say we have just been given proof that MS purchase of FASA
Interactive can and will have some affect on the way the rest of FASA's
operations work. Personaly, I intend to keep on with things and hope for
the best, but I also do not intend to let myself get caught off guard by
anything MS mucks with at FASA.

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Message no. 4
From: Patrick Goodman <remo@***.NET>
Subject: Re: [Semi-OT] Earthdawn News
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:42:19 -0600
>Also note that the reason they have finally given up all hope of
>selling Earthdawn is that Microsoft purchased FASA Interactive.
>According to the article, which was an interview with Jill Lucas,
>the MS purchase included the rights to all FASA games which left
>FASA choosing to kill it once and for all rather than complicate
>things trying to enter into more rights agreements.

So far, I'm with you. I quoted this bit just to make sure it was
available if someone was looking for it.

>I hate to sound alarmist or pessimistic or even like a doomsayer,
>but I would say we have just been given proof that MS purchase of
>FASA Interactive can and will have some affect on the way the rest
>of FASA's operations work.

And, to me at least, you sound like all three; I thin you're still
reading way too much into the FI sale, and still painting MS as the
Devil. I don't think there's anything sinister here, I think they're
just simplifying things. They've been trying to sell Earthdawn for how
long now? And didn't even seem to get a nibble (though I could be
missing something). Now MS owns FI, which owned the electronic/computer
game rights to all of FASA's games, including Earthdawn. No one in
their right mind would by Earthdawn without buying the
electronic/computer game rights along with the RPG. Now to buy the
game, someone would have to negotiate two different deals, one with FASA
and one with MS. Or FASA could go into a long, drawn-out re-negotiation
to specifically buy back the Earthdawn rights, which could endanger a
deal to sell the RPG.

So, since they didn't want to go right back into a drawn-out corporate
lawyer tag-team again after dealing with the FI sale already, and since
they might be able to do something with it later (TSR brought GAMMA
WORLD back from the dead *twice*, after all), they shelved it. It's
dead...but there's nothing to say that, sometime down the road, they
might resurrect it. I wouldn't hold my breath, of course, but....

>Personaly, I intend to keep on with things and hope for
>the best, but I also do not intend to let myself get caught
>off guard by anything MS mucks with at FASA.

I think you're seeing boogie-men where none, in fact, exist. YMMV, of
course.

--
(>) Texas 2-Step
El Paso: Never surrender. Never forget. Never forgive.
Message no. 5
From: A Halliwell <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [Semi-OT] Earthdawn News
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 14:49:21 +0000
And verily, did Patrick Goodman hastily scribble thusly...
|And, to me at least, you sound like all three; I thin you're still
|reading way too much into the FI sale, and still painting MS as the
|Devil.

But they ARE!

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