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Message no. 1
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: [Semi-OT] Phoenix Command (was Re: Favorite ammo)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 10:19:51 +0100
Tobias Berghoff said on 21:04/ 2 Oct 97...

> AFAIK some guys from the US government worked on it. They took a couple of
> guns, did some testing and put the results 1:1 into the game. So, in PC a
> .45ACP has a 92% of killing you (It was 92%, right Wolfstar?).

It isn't quite that simple, but it is deadly, yes. However, with most
normal wound there's a reasonable chance you can be saved, if someone gets
to you in time. There's a reason why it's called Knockout Roll instead of
Death Roll... :)

> Damn, if I could just find a copy....:(
> (...I'd make a SR version of it in no-time)

I doubt Phoenix Command would translate all that well to SR. For starters,
how will you handle magic in it? Metahumans are also a problem, since
they'll exceed the scales for which the game is intended; for exmaple
you'd need to adjust the damage caused to trolls and other tough (high
Body) metahumans, like the system does for animals.

Then, of course, there's the question of whether SR really _needs_ this
much realism...

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Message no. 2
From: Tobias Berghoff <Zixx@*****.TEUTO.DE>
Subject: Re: [Semi-OT] Phoenix Command (was Re: Favorite ammo)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 13:54:00 GMT
on 06.10.97 gurth@******.NL wrote:

g> > AFAIK some guys from the US government worked on it. They took a couple
g> > of guns, did some testing and put the results 1:1 into the game. So, in
g> > PC a .45ACP has a 92% of killing you (It was 92%, right Wolfstar?).
g>
g> It isn't quite that simple, but it is deadly, yes. However, with most
g> normal wound there's a reasonable chance you can be saved, if someone gets
g> to you in time. There's a reason why it's called Knockout Roll instead of
g> Death Roll... :)

Wasn't there a thing like: You have 5 minutes to be treated by a someone
with Biotech(tm), then 30 min to get to your units doc and 5 hours for the
MASH....something like that....?

g> > Damn, if I could just find a copy....:(
g> > (...I'd make a SR version of it in no-time)
g>
g> I doubt Phoenix Command would translate all that well to SR. For starters,
g> how will you handle magic in it?

I was just talking about the combat system. I don't want to copy
everything, just the useful stuff.

g> Metahumans are also a problem, since
g> they'll exceed the scales for which the game is intended; for exmaple
g> you'd need to adjust the damage caused to trolls and other tough (high
g> Body) metahumans, like the system does for animals.

Looks like some more work....

g> Then, of course, there's the question of whether SR really _needs_ this
g> much realism...

SR? Nope! Me? Yup!



Tobias Berghoff a.k.a Zixx a.k.a. Charon, your friendly werepanther physad.

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