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Message no. 1
From: Scott W iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: Servin' time in Miami
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 22:02:31 -0400
Here's a quickie...

Could some enterprising soul who has Cyberpirates perhaps inform me
what the penalty for stealing a Coast Guard vessel (Grand Larceny?)
would be in the Caribbean League, particularly Miami, Florida? (assume
that's the only charge)
Also, does anyone know the name of a suitable prison to hold said offender?

Thanks in advance,

-Boondocker
Message no. 2
From: Chariot chariot@*******.net
Subject: Servin' time in Miami
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 20:42:27 -0600 (CST)
On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Scott W wrote:

> Here's a quickie...
>
> Also, does anyone know the name of a suitable prison to hold said offender?

Hmm... I live in Miami and the only thing I can think of is the Krome
Detention center. If you have a map you can probably find it. It's west
of the Florida Turnpike on NW 41st Street. There is actually a Krome
avenue which is 177th ave I think and west of that is just everglades.

If someone from down here knows better they can go ahead and correct me
cause I may be wrong.

BTW- The Krome Detention Center is where they take all the cuban refugees
while they are being processed and before they are sent back home.

Hope this helps.
Chariot
A.K.A. The Cuban Informant
Cubano Rependido
Message no. 3
From: Scott W iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: Servin' time in Miami
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 00:17:18 -0400
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Chariot."
] Hmm... I live in Miami and the only thing I can think of is the Krome
] Detention center. If you have a map you can probably find it. It's west
] of the Florida Turnpike on NW 41st Street. There is actually a Krome
] avenue which is 177th ave I think and west of that is just everglades.

Cool, that's exactly what I needed. And an address too...excellent!
Very helpful, thanks a lot!

-Boondocker
Message no. 4
From: Manx timburke@*******.com.au
Subject: Servin' time in Miami
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 00:40:38 +1000
> Here's a quickie...
>
> Could some enterprising soul who has Cyberpirates perhaps inform me
> what the penalty for stealing a Coast Guard vessel (Grand Larceny?)
> would be in the Caribbean League, particularly Miami, Florida? (assume
> that's the only charge)
> Also, does anyone know the name of a suitable prison to hold said
offender?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -Boondocker

For facilities in Florida check out the website of the Florida Department of
Corrections.

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/

You'd be wanting to select region 4, Dade or Broward Counties on the
facilities search. Everything you need to know about being banged up
in Miami by the local sherrif.

If however you've been a naughty boy and have got yourself banged
up on a Federal Beef then you'd be a guest of the Federal Bureau
of Prisons, specifically their friendly "snap of the latex" Miami staff
at either of the below facilities. I'd be thinking that messing with the
Coast Guard, especially nicking one of their nice boats would land
you definately in Federal Court.

FCI Miami
15801 S.W. 137th Avenue
Miami, Florida 33177
305-259-2100
Fax: 305-259-2160
Security Level: Medium/Male (adjacent Minimum/Male camp)
Facility Code: MIA

FDC Miami
P.O. Box 0119118
33 Northwest 4th Street
Miami, Florida 33101-9118
305-982-1114
Fax: 305-982-1357
Security Level: Administrative/Male/Female
Facility Code: MIM

This info has come from the Federal Bureau of Prisons website at

http://www.bop.gov

I hope this is of assistance.

*********************************
Manx // timburke@*******.com.au // #950
"It's always funny until someone get's hurt
and then it's just hilarious." - Faith No More
*********************************
Message no. 5
From: Scott W iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: Servin' time in Miami
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 23:54:37 -0400
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Manx."
] For facilities in Florida check out the website of the Florida Department of
] Corrections.
]
] http://www.dc.state.fl.us/
]
] You'd be wanting to select region 4, Dade or Broward Counties on the
] facilities search. Everything you need to know about being banged up
] in Miami by the local sherrif.

Excellent! That's a great help.

] If however you've been a naughty boy and have got yourself banged
] up on a Federal Beef then you'd be a guest of the Federal Bureau
] of Prisons, specifically their friendly "snap of the latex" Miami staff
] at either of the below facilities. I'd be thinking that messing with the
] Coast Guard, especially nicking one of their nice boats would land
] you definately in Federal Court.

Well, I nixed the Coast Guard boat idea, and had the theft be of a
private boat. Still, the question remains, what does Cyberpirates say,
if anything, about the penalty for such a crime?

-Boondocker
Message no. 6
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Servin' time in Miami
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 01:18:00 EST
In a message dated 11/7/1999 10:53:03 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
iscottw@*****.nb.ca writes:

>
> Well, I nixed the Coast Guard boat idea, and had the theft be of a
> private boat. Still, the question remains, what does Cyberpirates say,
> if anything, about the penalty for such a crime?

IIRC, and I admit quickly I could be wrong, "Piracy on the Open Seas" is
subject to the laws of whomever has control over the body of water.
Imprisonment is probably it in UN territories. If it happens while in port,
then Port Authority takes it, and it ranks as a Major Felony action akin to
"Grand Theft Auto". Further actions taken by the thieves with the boat will
do nothing more than aquire more and more charges, as well as complicate the
original charges (theft with intent to commit a felony for instance).

Corporate Law could be anything ... I seem to recall "Mysterious Cyberware"
being such a good one :-)

-K
[Hoosier Hacker House]
[http://members.aol.com/hhackerh/index.html]
ICQ#-51511837
Message no. 7
From: Sebastian Wiers m0ng005e@*********.com
Subject: Servin' time in Miami
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 03:58:06 -0600
:IIRC, and I admit quickly I could be wrong, "Piracy on the Open Seas" is
:subject to the laws of whomever has control over the body of water.
:Imprisonment is probably it in UN territories.

Piracy on the open seas is a crime against the nation ion which the boat
is registered. Maritime law allows for fairly open enforcement (i.e.,
anybody can bust you, and has the resposabilty to do so), but the
eventual prosecution for the property crimes will be in that country.
Ancillary crimes (like murder of citizens on the boat, crimes committed
later
with the boat in various domestic waters, etc.) allow prosecution in their
respective countries. I think their is a general Maritimes court that gets
to adjudicate all this and decide who gets to hang you from which yardarm,
if
the somebody's naval force doesn't have a clear bust (or just kill you right
off while "trying to escape").
Unfortunately, I know more about how this type of law WAS enforced, say
250-100 years ago, than how it is now enforced, or would be in 2060. And
certainly, corporate law would likely play a big roll- I think a large ship
could easily be extra-territorial property, by the rules laid out in Corp
Download.

Mongoose

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