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Message no. 1
From: Zixx <t_berghoff@*********.NETSURF.DE>
Subject: Sesson time (was: Re: Intro part 2)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 21:26:26 +0000
On 22 Dec 97 at 11:31, Ojaste,James [NCR] wrote:


> Whoa! Okay - this is how they got that kp. The problem is that
> in the BBB there are two sentences dealing with kp - one says
> to round in favour of kp, the other says to round in favour of
> good karma. Our GM wanted to keep kp low, so we only get extra
> kp if our entire award (for the session - we almost always get
> 3-4 karma for a 4-5 hour session) is 10 or more. We've managed
> it once so far (we're not running any FASA stuff, btw).

Wait a sec! 4-5 hour sessions? Do you get anything done in that time? I
mean, if I told my players that we could play for...say 8 hours, they'd
laugh at me

Hell, we spend four hours telling dirty jokes, before we even start
playing...

Tobias Berghoff a.k.a Zixx a.k.a. Charon, your friendly werepanther physad.

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Message no. 2
From: Lehlan Decker <decker@****.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Sesson time (was: Re: Intro part 2)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 15:42:52 -0500
On Mon, Dec 22, 1997 at 09:26:26PM +0000, Zixx wrote:
> On 22 Dec 97 at 11:31, Ojaste,James [NCR] wrote:
>
>
> > Whoa! Okay - this is how they got that kp. The problem is that
> > in the BBB there are two sentences dealing with kp - one says
> > to round in favour of kp, the other says to round in favour of
> > good karma. Our GM wanted to keep kp low, so we only get extra
> > kp if our entire award (for the session - we almost always get
> > 3-4 karma for a 4-5 hour session) is 10 or more. We've managed
> > it once so far (we're not running any FASA stuff, btw).
>
> Wait a sec! 4-5 hour sessions? Do you get anything done in that time? I
> mean, if I told my players that we could play for...say 8 hours, they'd
> laugh at me
>
> Hell, we spend four hours telling dirty jokes, before we even start
> playing...
>
Isn't that the truth. Our average session is 6- 8 hours.
And the "adventure" usually take 2-4 sessions.
Somehow we get side tracked (don't ever try playing during
football season :))
Breaks for dinner are allowed though. :)


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decker@****.fsu.edu http://www.scri.fsu.edu/~decker
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Message no. 3
From: Zixx <t_berghoff@*********.NETSURF.DE>
Subject: Re: Sesson time (was: Re: Intro part 2)
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 00:03:24 +0000
On 22 Dec 97 at 15:42, Lehlan Decker wrote:


> > Wait a sec! 4-5 hour sessions? Do you get anything done in that time? I
> > mean, if I told my players that we could play for...say 8 hours, they'd
> > laugh at me
> >
> > Hell, we spend four hours telling dirty jokes, before we even start
> > playing...
> >
> Isn't that the truth. Our average session is 6- 8 hours.
> And the "adventure" usually take 2-4 sessions.
> Somehow we get side tracked (don't ever try playing during
> football season :))
> Breaks for dinner are allowed though. :)

Well, we tend to start at something between 1600 and 2200 and end...well
between 0900 and...2200...



Tobias Berghoff a.k.a Zixx a.k.a. Charon, your friendly werepanther physad.

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Message no. 4
From: Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Sesson time (was: Re: Intro part 2)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 17:54:30 EST
In a message dated 97-12-22 15:32:05 EST, t_berghoff@*********.NETSURF.DE
writes:

> Wait a sec! 4-5 hour sessions? Do you get anything done in that time? I
> mean, if I told my players that we could play for...say 8 hours, they'd
> laugh at me

It -can- be done, it is just only done by the "hard core" players...

> Hell, we spend four hours telling dirty jokes, before we even start
> playing...

We do that during game play at times...unless I lose my patience of course ;)

> Tobias Berghoff a.k.a Zixx a.k.a. Charon, your friendly werepanther physad.

-Keith (who came the closest ever to Binder dying this Friday...thanks to
another players H.O.G. (BIG APPLAUSE FOR THE SURPRISE AWARD!!!!)
Message no. 5
From: GRANITE <granite@**.NET>
Subject: Re: Sesson time (was: Re: Intro part 2)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 16:40:47 -0700
> Wait a sec! 4-5 hour sessions? Do you get anything done in that
time? I
> mean, if I told my players that we could play for...say 8 hours, they'd
> laugh at me

Lots can be accomplished in that amount of time..When I had my
regular group that was our standard session time as well..Some times
it makes it a bit harder to get through a module..but that means your
$ to enjoyment time ratio goes way up..

> Hell, we spend four hours telling dirty jokes, before we even start
> playing...

That is one of the first things that goes when you have a limited
amount of time to play in..jerk around time is out the window..Not to
say that it is eliminated..htat is of course impossible..but it is
cut way down in the interest of all...And some of us oldtimers simply
don't have the concentrated time off to to pull a 12 hour gaming
session..
look at it like this..conventions only sched 4 hour slots..and look
at the amount of gaming gets accomplished in that time...
--------------------------------GRANITE
"Rock Steady"
===============================================
Lord, Grant Me The Serenity To Accept The Things I Cannot Change,
The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
And The Wisdom To Hide The Bodies Of Those People I Had To Kill
Because They Pissed Me Off.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ShadowRunner's Serenity Prayer
===============================================
Kind of a bummer. Gettin' your butt kicked by a dead guy.
- Lt Col McQueen
The truth is a three edged sword. - Kosh
Message no. 6
From: "Simon.M" <Simon.M@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Sesson time (was: Re: Intro part 2)
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 01:48:14 -0000
Heck, i've done it in two hours for small runs and all nighters starting in
the morning of the first day only stopping for food(apart from munchies)
which ended up to be ordered pizza and toilet stops.

Can't remember a damn thing though, we also drunk a hell of alot!

All i know is in the morning we all had 10 more Karma!
Message no. 7
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Sesson time (was: Re: Intro part 2)
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 01:21:18 -0500
At 04:40 PM 12/22/97 -0700, GRANITE wrote these timeless words:
>> Wait a sec! 4-5 hour sessions? Do you get anything done in that
>time? I
>> mean, if I told my players that we could play for...say 8 hours, they'd
>> laugh at me
>
>Lots can be accomplished in that amount of time..When I had my
>regular group that was our standard session time as well..Some times
>it makes it a bit harder to get through a module..but that means your
>$ to enjoyment time ratio goes way up..
>
>> Hell, we spend four hours telling dirty jokes, before we even start
>> playing...
>
>That is one of the first things that goes when you have a limited
>amount of time to play in..jerk around time is out the window..Not to
>say that it is eliminated..htat is of course impossible..but it is
>cut way down in the interest of all...And some of us oldtimers simply
>don't have the concentrated time off to to pull a 12 hour gaming
>session..
>look at it like this..conventions only sched 4 hour slots..and look
>at the amount of gaming gets accomplished in that time...
>
Agreed... We were by no means serious at GC during ANY of the Tourney
Rounds... We were having a ball... But I also think we got a LOT of the
game done, and pulled off a lot of RP :]

Of course, we abused poor Granite... But I think he enjkoyed it as much as
we did :]

Bull
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Message no. 8
From: Lehlan Decker <decker@****.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Sesson time (was: Re: Intro part 2)
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 10:01:41 -0500
On Tue, Dec 23, 1997 at 12:03:24AM +0000, Zixx wrote:
> On 22 Dec 97 at 15:42, Lehlan Decker wrote:
>
>
> > > Wait a sec! 4-5 hour sessions? Do you get anything done in that time? I
> > > mean, if I told my players that we could play for...say 8 hours, they'd
> > > laugh at me
> > >
> > > Hell, we spend four hours telling dirty jokes, before we even start
> > > playing...
> > >
> > Isn't that the truth. Our average session is 6- 8 hours.
> > And the "adventure" usually take 2-4 sessions.
> > Somehow we get side tracked (don't ever try playing during
> > football season :))
> > Breaks for dinner are allowed though. :)
>
> Well, we tend to start at something between 1600 and 2200 and end...well
> between 0900 and...2200...
>
Heh..I remember doing stuff like that. Then that obnoxious thing called
work (or my girlfriend :)), tended to get in the way.



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decker@****.fsu.edu http://www.scri.fsu.edu/~decker
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Time is the best teacher. Unfortunately it kills all of its students.
Message no. 9
From: Zixx <t_berghoff@*********.NETSURF.DE>
Subject: Re: Sesson time (was: Re: Intro part 2)
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 00:59:17 +0000
On 22 Dec 97 at 17:54, Ereskanti wrote:

> In a message dated 97-12-22 15:32:05 EST, t_berghoff@*********.NETSURF.DE
> writes:
>
> > Wait a sec! 4-5 hour sessions? Do you get anything done in that time? I
> > mean, if I told my players that we could play for...say 8 hours, they'd
> > laugh at me
>
> It -can- be done, it is just only done by the "hard core" players...

Yeah, but you need four times as many sessions....:)

> > Hell, we spend four hours telling dirty jokes, before we even start
> > playing...
>
> We do that during game play at times...unless I lose my patience of course ;)

I once even reduced one players karma-awards, as he nearly made the rest of
the group vomit...:)



Tobias Berghoff a.k.a Zixx a.k.a. Charon, your friendly werepanther physad.

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Message no. 10
From: GRANITE <granite@**.NET>
Subject: Re: Sesson time (was: Re: Intro part 2)
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 13:46:16 -0700
>>look at it like this..conventions only sched 4 hour slots..and look
>>at the amount of gaming gets accomplished in that time...
>Agreed... We were by no means serious at GC during ANY of the
>Tourney Rounds... We were having a ball...

Absolutely..it is afterall..supposed to be fun...

> But I also think we got a LOT of the
>game done, and pulled off a lot of RP :]

WIthout a doubt..Truth is..I ended up having to improvise some things
since things were going so smoothly..And in all cases the groups came
up with unique ways out of situations..that took me completely by
surprise..I had not anticipated some of these solutions even
remotely..But I was able to get around my surprise fairly well...ANd
keep things flowing..

>Of course, we abused poor Granite... But I think he enjkoyed it as
>much as we did :]

It was a blast..A very good time was had..the only drawback for me
was..I missed the rest of GenCon..I was working every round of the Ed
tourney as well as the SR tourney.. I was thinking the other day about
how to discribe the Mana storm..And then it hit me..rather that raw
devestation..something more like "My Science Project"...I just wish I
had thought of it while I was writing that sequence...
--------------------------------GRANITE
"Rock Steady"
===============================================
Lord, Grant Me The Serenity To Accept The Things I Cannot Change,
The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
And The Wisdom To Hide The Bodies Of Those People I Had To Kill
Because They Pissed Me Off.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ShadowRunner's Serenity Prayer
===============================================
Kind of a bummer. Gettin' your butt kicked by a dead guy.
- Lt Col McQueen
The truth is a three edged sword. - Kosh
Message no. 11
From: Barbie <barbie@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Sesson time (was: Re: Intro part 2)
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 23:15:00 +0100
At 23-Dez-97 wrote Zixx:


>Well, we tend to start at something between 1600 and 2200 and end...well
>between 0900 and...2200...


Hmm, we play mostly from 2000 til we fall asleep or so :)


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Message no. 12
From: Barbie <barbie@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Sesson time (was: Re: Intro part 2)
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 23:16:33 +0100
At 23-Dez-97 wrote Simon.M:



>All i know is in the morning we all had 10 more Karma!


I don`t remember such game here :) The next day I had burned 6 KP and
I was an elf :)

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Message no. 13
From: "Simon.M" <Simon.M@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Sesson time (was: Re: Intro part 2)
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 14:00:52 -0000
>>All i know is in the morning we all had 10 more Karma!
>
>
>I don`t remember such game here :) The next day I had burned 6 KP and
>I was an elf :)
>


I looked on the table and saw a note with WE KILLED HIM!!!!!!

And for some reason i had a weird memory of talking about you can't have
scales if your a president?

Who knows?
Message no. 14
From: Zixx <t_berghoff@*********.NETSURF.DE>
Subject: Re: Sesson time (was: Re: Intro part 2)
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 22:10:43 +0000
On 23 Dec 97 at 10:01, Lehlan Decker wrote:

> > > Isn't that the truth. Our average session is 6- 8 hours.
> > > And the "adventure" usually take 2-4 sessions.
> > > Somehow we get side tracked (don't ever try playing during
> > > football season :))
> > > Breaks for dinner are allowed though. :)
> >
> > Well, we tend to start at something between 1600 and 2200 and end...well
> > between 0900 and...2200...
> >
> Heh..I remember doing stuff like that. Then that obnoxious thing called
> work (or my girlfriend :)), tended to get in the way.

Oh, please! Don't remind me! If I could get a grilfriend who played in my
group *and* get money for roleplaying....

Then again, that'd be boring...

Tobias Berghoff a.k.a Zixx a.k.a. Charon, your friendly werepanther physad.

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Message no. 15
From: Zixx <t_berghoff@*********.NETSURF.DE>
Subject: Re: Sesson time (was: Re: Intro part 2)
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 02:25:13 +0000
On 24 Dec 97 at 23:15, Barbie wrote:

> At 23-Dez-97 wrote Zixx:
>
>
> >Well, we tend to start at something between 1600 and 2200 and end...well
> >between 0900 and...2200...
>
>
> Hmm, we play mostly from 2000 til we fall asleep or so :)

We optimised that. We play until we are 30 minutes before falling asleep,
to everybody can drive home. My back still hurts when I remember the time I
had to sleep in two old armchairs after a session...Have you ever tried to
sleep while some idiot plays Manowar tapes?!?

I think that was after 25 1/2 hours of constant gameing....;)

Tobias Berghoff a.k.a Zixx a.k.a. Charon, your friendly werepanther physad.

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Message no. 16
From: "Ojaste,James [NCR]" <James.Ojaste@**.GC.CA>
Subject: Re: Sesson time (was: Re: Intro part 2)
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 12:37:56 -0500
Ereskanti wrote:
> In a message dated 97-12-22 15:32:05 EST, t_berghoff@*********.NETSURF.DE
> writes:
>
> > Wait a sec! 4-5 hour sessions? Do you get anything done in that time? I
> > mean, if I told my players that we could play for...say 8 hours, they'd
> > laugh at me
>
> It -can- be done, it is just only done by the "hard core" players...

Well, how much we get done depends on the mood we're in. We've
spent an entire session once doing nothing but planning a run.
Needless to say, our karma award for the session was... below
average. :-)

> > Hell, we spend four hours telling dirty jokes, before we even start
> > playing...
>
> We do that during game play at times...unless I lose my patience of course
;)

Oh, we used to be pretty bad. We start at 6 or so (so everybody
can get off work/out of school) and we used to go until 2-3 am.
It was kinda hard on those who had to go to work early the next
morning though, so we eventually sped things up.

James Ojaste

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