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Message no. 1
From: Jessica Grota <grota@*********.COM>
Subject: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:57:17 -0400
Heyas, all...okay, I've been dying to ask this. Is there a supplement
either on-line or in one of the books that deals with sex in the SR
world? I read a rather interesting article on it: inter-race
compatibility, STDs, birth control and pregnancy chances, etc. If there
IS no resource, I might very well consider writing up a supplement
dealing with the topic myself. Any thoughts on this?

--Jett
Message no. 2
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 16:03:19 -0400
Once upon a time, Jessica Grota wrote;

>Heyas, all...okay, I've been dying to ask this. Is there a supplement
>either on-line or in one of the books that deals with sex in the SR
>world? I read a rather interesting article on it: inter-race
>compatibility, STDs, birth control and pregnancy chances, etc. If there
>IS no resource, I might very well consider writing up a supplement
>dealing with the topic myself. Any thoughts on this?
>
>--Jett

???

Um well, not much has changed in that department. The children of mixed
race parentage are born of one of those two races, no hybrids exist.

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- G.I.Joe

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Message no. 3
From: Max Rible <slothman@*********.ORG>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:05:01 -0800
At 15:57 4/27/98 -0400, Jessica Grota insinuated:
>Heyas, all...okay, I've been dying to ask this. Is there a supplement
>either on-line or in one of the books that deals with sex in the SR
>world? I read a rather interesting article on it: inter-race
>compatibility, STDs, birth control and pregnancy chances, etc. If there
>IS no resource, I might very well consider writing up a supplement
>dealing with the topic myself. Any thoughts on this?

Well, there's my page at <http://www.amurgsval.org/shadowrun/sex.html>;,
which tackles a few of the issues.

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Message no. 4
From: Adam J <fro@***.AB.CA>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:24:49 -0600
At 15:57 27/04/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Heyas, all...okay, I've been dying to ask this. Is there a supplement
>either on-line or in one of the books that deals with sex in the SR
>world? I read a rather interesting article on it: inter-race
>compatibility, STDs, birth control and pregnancy chances, etc. If there
>IS no resource, I might very well consider writing up a supplement
>dealing with the topic myself. Any thoughts on this?

Heh. This might tie nicely into something I was thinking of writing up.
I'll tell you about it next time I see you on IRC, Jett >:)

-Adam J
The above was just a nasty teaser to let you know I'm up to something.
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Message no. 5
From: Stephen Delear <c715591@******.MISSOURI.EDU>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 18:00:31 -0500
At 03:57 PM 98-04-27 -0400, you wrote:
>Heyas, all...okay, I've been dying to ask this. Is there a supplement
>either on-line or in one of the books that deals with sex in the SR
>world? I read a rather interesting article on it: inter-race
>compatibility, STDs, birth control and pregnancy chances, etc. If there
>IS no resource, I might very well consider writing up a supplement
>dealing with the topic myself. Any thoughts on this?
>
>--Jett
>

Well lets see if it goblinized from a human it's compatible (also shapers
may or may not be genetically capatible). STD's are probably curable but
still a problem in the lower levels of sociaty considering current high
tech microlab technologies I don't think testing would be much of a problem
(now for only $20 nuyen you can be tested for pregnancy, genetic defect,
gobliniztion genes, and a host of viral and bacterialogical agents) however
treatment would probably be expensive and hard to come by for low income
people. Since disease shows up in a players aura I would think that most
who hang around magicians for any length of time shouldn't have detection
problems (the pricier singles bars probably have someone astral preciving
who will either show an infected person to the door or drop a cure disease
on them either for a fee or possibly for free if it's a really high class
corp joint). As for contraception I'd say you'd have everything you have
now plus a bunch of cyber and bio implants.

As for magic lets see. Prevent conception
Minor physical Manipulation M
Touch Required F/2-1 L
Sustained Spell F/2 L


So there you have it
Prevent Conception F/2 L
Sustained
TN 4

On the other Hand

Group Orgy F/2+1 S
Sustained
TN 4
Area of Effect

Needless to say there are uses for the quickened version of both these
spells (so when you're hired to make a run into the magicians dorm at MIT&M
your runners could find there target engaged in a rather interesting
situation).

SteveD

Stephen Delear
University of Missouri-Columbia
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Message no. 6
From: Nexx <nexx@********.NET>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 18:06:39 -0500
----------
> From: Stephen Delear <c715591@******.MISSOURI.EDU>
> So there you have it
> Prevent Conception F/2 L
> Sustained
> TN 4

> Group Orgy F/2+1 S
> Sustained
> TN 4
> Area of Effect


One problem with making these sustained... concentration. You either
have one guy who has to sit and watch so the spell can be sustained, or
you've got to quicken it every time you do it...
Of course, another option would be a variation on Disinfect (I think...
its in the Grimmy) which kills all the little microorganisms, limited
target of sperm.

Hey, here's a question: Do children have an arcane connection to their
parents? How similar are their auras? Can you tell two people are
related by looking at their auras?

***************
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"Death by a sword lasts but a moment, but a bard's scorn
lasts forever"
aka Pope Nexx Many-Scars, PML FAQ Cop
"Discretion is the better part of honor.... and innuendo
the better part of humor."
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crunchy and good with ketchup."
Message no. 7
From: "Ubiratan P. Alberton" <ubiratan@**.HOMESHOPPING.COM.BR>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 20:17:12 -0300
Jessica Grota escreveu:
>
> Heyas, all...okay, I've been dying to ask this. Is there a supplement
> either on-line or in one of the books that deals with sex in the SR
> world? I read a rather interesting article on it: inter-race
> compatibility, STDs, birth control and pregnancy chances, etc. If there
> IS no resource, I might very well consider writing up a supplement
> dealing with the topic myself. Any thoughts on this?
>
> --Jett

Someone named Talks-With-Cats had opened a discussion forum on this
in Shadowland,
but it was before tha latest crash...
Biologically speaking, I put each metahuman species (not counting
Companion variants)
in a different species (Homo sapiens, Homo nobilis, etc.), so
"half-breeds" would be out.
Physiologically speaking, intercourse between any combination of
races except Troll-Dwarf
would be possible. All IMHO.
The social side of the technobabble above might make the Sixth World
interesting...

Ubiratan
Message no. 8
From: "Ubiratan P. Alberton" <ubiratan@**.HOMESHOPPING.COM.BR>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:02:25 -0300
Nexx escreveu:
>
> ----------
> > From: Stephen Delear <c715591@******.MISSOURI.EDU>
> > So there you have it
> > Prevent Conception F/2 L
> > Sustained
> > TN 4
>
> > Group Orgy F/2+1 S
> > Sustained
> > TN 4
> > Area of Effect
>
> One problem with making these sustained... concentration. You either
> have one guy who has to sit and watch so the spell can be sustained, or
> you've got to quicken it every time you do it...
> Of course, another option would be a variation on Disinfect (I think...
> its in the Grimmy) which kills all the little microorganisms, limited
> target of sperm.
>
> Hey, here's a question: Do children have an arcane connection to their
> parents? How similar are their auras? Can you tell two people are
> related by looking at their auras?
>

Maybe with a close comparation of both auras.

Ubiratan
Message no. 9
From: "Jeremy \"Bolthy\" Zimmerman" <jeremy@***********.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:20:13 -0700
----------
> From: Ubiratan P. Alberton <ubiratan@**.HOMESHOPPING.COM.BR>
> To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET
> Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
> Date: Monday, April 27, 1998 4:17 PM
>
> Physiologically speaking, intercourse between any combination of
> races except Troll-Dwarf
> would be possible. All IMHO.

Actually, I can see Troll-Dwarf. I don't want to, but I can. It's burned
into my retinas. Agh!
Message no. 10
From: Max Rible <slothman@*********.ORG>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 16:31:04 -0800
At 20:17 4/27/98 -0300, Ubiratan P. Alberton insinuated:
> Someone named Talks-With-Cats had opened a discussion forum on this
>in Shadowland,
>but it was before tha latest crash...

That was me. I eventually incorporated the results of the discussion into
my page at <http://www.amurgsval.org/shadowrun/sex.html>;.

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Message no. 11
From: Stephen Delear <c715591@******.MISSOURI.EDU>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 22:03:03 -0500
At 06:06 PM 98-04-27 -0500, you wrote:
>----------
>> From: Stephen Delear <c715591@******.MISSOURI.EDU>
>> So there you have it
>> Prevent Conception F/2 L
>> Sustained
>> TN 4
>
>> Group Orgy F/2+1 S
>> Sustained
>> TN 4
>> Area of Effect
>
>
> One problem with making these sustained... concentration. You
either
>have one guy who has to sit and watch so the spell can be sustained, or
>you've got to quicken it every time you do it...

Nah just anchore the thing sustained with a duration of say 7 hours.

> Of course, another option would be a variation on Disinfect (I
think...
>its in the Grimmy) which kills all the little microorganisms, limited
>target of sperm.
>
> Hey, here's a question: Do children have an arcane connection to
their
>parents? How similar are their auras? Can you tell two people are
>related by looking at their auras?

No, close and yes.

SteveD
>
>***************
> Rev. Mark Hall, Bardagh
> "Death by a sword lasts but a moment, but a bard's scorn
>lasts forever"
> aka Pope Nexx Many-Scars, PML FAQ Cop
> "Discretion is the better part of honor.... and innuendo
>the better part of humor."
> aka Ellegon
> "Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, mortal, for you are
>crunchy and good with ketchup."
>
Stephen Delear
University of Missouri-Columbia
Check out my Photo Message Board at http://www.missouri.edu/~c715591
"Sometimes I do get to places just when God's ready to have somebody click
the shutter" Ansel Adams
Message no. 12
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 02:37:18 -0400
At 03:57 PM 4/27/98 -0400, Jessica Grota wrote these timeless words:
>Heyas, all...okay, I've been dying to ask this. Is there a supplement
>either on-line or in one of the books that deals with sex in the SR
>world? I read a rather interesting article on it: inter-race
>compatibility, STDs, birth control and pregnancy chances, etc. If there
>IS no resource, I might very well consider writing up a supplement
>dealing with the topic myself. Any thoughts on this?
>
>--Jett
>
All I gotta say is, somehow, it doesn;t surprise me that you'd bring this
up :]

<grin>

Bull -- I stay out of RPing any sort fo sex with my group cause were all
big hairy MEN!
--
Bull, aka Steven Ratkovich, aka Rak, aka Chaos, aka a lot of others! :]

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Message no. 13
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:22:24 +0100
Jessica Grota said on 15:57/27 Apr 98...

> Heyas, all...okay, I've been dying to ask this. Is there a supplement
> either on-line or in one of the books that deals with sex in the SR
> world?

Not that I know of.

> I read a rather interesting article on it: inter-race compatibility,
> STDs

STDs? (Probably a common abbreviation in the US, but I can't figure out
what it stands for.)

> birth control and pregnancy chances, etc. If there IS no resource, I
> might very well consider writing up a supplement dealing with the topic
> myself. Any thoughts on this?

Yes. Read page 34 of SRII very carefully before you start writing about
half-elves, half-orks, and other mixed-metahumans.

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Message no. 14
From: "Mark C. Farrington" <alareth@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 06:41:45 -0400
STD's = Sexually Transmitted Diseases

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Message no. 15
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 13:49:21 +0100
And verily, did Mark C. Farrington hastily scribble thusly...
|
|STD's = Sexually Transmitted Diseases

I'm old fashioned...

I prefer the term VD.

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Message no. 16
From: "Ojaste,James [NCR]" <James.Ojaste@**.GC.CA>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:37:46 -0400
Bull wrote:
>At 03:57 PM 4/27/98 -0400, Jessica Grota wrote these timeless words:
>>Heyas, all...okay, I've been dying to ask this. Is there a supplement
>>either on-line or in one of the books that deals with sex in the SR
>>world?
[snip]
>All I gotta say is, somehow, it doesn;t surprise me that you'd bring this
>up :]

Hmm... Nah, I won't ask. :-)

>Bull -- I stay out of RPing any sort fo sex with my group cause were all
>big hairy MEN!

Well, as long as you're not a LARPer... :-)

James Ojaste
Message no. 17
From: Paul Gettle <pgettle@********.NET>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 10:45:24 -0400
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At 01:49 PM 4/28/98 +0100, Spike wrote:
>And verily, did Mark C. Farrington hastily scribble thusly...
>|
>|STD's = Sexually Transmitted Diseases
>
>I'm old fashioned...
>
>I prefer the term VD.

That's not old fasioned. If you prefer the term "Social Disease", then
you're old fasioned.

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Message no. 18
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:43:26 +0100
And verily, did Ojaste,James [NCR] hastily scribble thusly...
|Well, as long as you're not a LARPer... :-)

And what's wrong with us LRPers?
It's a lot of fun being chased around country parks by a bunch of orc, while
tossing spells at them in an attempt to slow them down.....
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Message no. 19
From: "Ojaste,James [NCR]" <James.Ojaste@**.GC.CA>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:12:20 -0400
Spike wrote:
>And verily, did Ojaste,James [NCR] hastily scribble thusly...
>|Well, as long as you're not a LARPer... :-)
>
>And what's wrong with us LRPers?

Err, you snipped the bit about role playing sex scenes when the
entire group was a bunch of large hairy men... :-)

>It's a lot of fun being chased around country parks by a bunch of orc, while
>tossing spells at them in an attempt to slow them down.....

Oh, maybe you did read that bit after all, you tease! :-)

James Ojaste
Message no. 20
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:16:45 -0400
Once upon a time, Spike wrote;

>And verily, did Ojaste,James [NCR] hastily scribble thusly...
>|Well, as long as you're not a LARPer... :-)
>
>And what's wrong with us LRPers?
>It's a lot of fun being chased around country parks by a bunch of orc, while
>tossing spells at them in an attempt to slow them down.....

Or going to the clubs being all dark and spooky (which is somehow
different from going to the clubs anyway being all dark and spooky).

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Message no. 21
From: Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:45:16 EDT
In a message dated 4/28/98 8:34:18 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
James.Ojaste@**.GC.CA writes:

> >Bull -- I stay out of RPing any sort fo sex with my group cause were all
> >big hairy MEN!
>
> Well, as long as you're not a LARPer... :-)
>
Oh what images, especially given the -only- image of Bull that I have (from
the "Who's Who" page)....OMG!!! NO, it won't go away!!! AAAAAaaaaa.....


-K
Message no. 22
From: Wafflemeisters <evamarie@**********.NET>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:43:11 -0500
>
>
>
> Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner? (Nexx , Mon 18:06)

> Hey, here's a question: Do children have an arcane connection to their
parents? How similar are their auras? Can you tell two people are related by looking at
their auras?
>

Well, IMO, relatives ought to make somewhat effective ritual links,
on the order of favored or much handled objects, depending on emotional
ties and genetics (children are actually less similar than siblings).
But that in and of itself won't tell relations, no.

-Mongoose
Message no. 23
From: Oliver McDonald <oliver@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 13:37:57 +0800
On Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:43:11 -0500, Wafflemeisters wrote:

> Well, IMO, relatives ought to make somewhat effective ritual links,
>on the order of favored or much handled objects, depending on emotional
>ties and genetics (children are actually less similar than siblings).

Actually not always. Two children of the same parents can (statistically unlikely) share
none of the same genes. On average two children of the same parents will share about
half of the same genes. A child of a parent will always share half of their genes with the
parent. So for all practical purposes children are the same as siblings in terms of
similarity.


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Message no. 24
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:47:14 +0100
And verily, did MC23 hastily scribble thusly...
|>And what's wrong with us LRPers?
|>It's a lot of fun being chased around country parks by a bunch of orc, while
|>tossing spells at them in an attempt to slow them down.....
|
| Or going to the clubs being all dark and spooky (which is somehow
|different from going to the clubs anyway being all dark and spooky).

EH?

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Message no. 25
From: Mike Elkins <MikeE@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 17:58:50 -0500
>Two children of the same parents can (statistically unlikely) share
>none of the same genes.

BTW: It's 67 million to one against, for those of you who think your sister
is from a different planet.

Double-Domed Mike
Message no. 26
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:18:13 -0400
Once upon a time, Spike wrote;

>And verily, did MC23 hastily scribble thusly...
>|>And what's wrong with us LRPers?
>|>It's a lot of fun being chased around country parks by a bunch of orc,
>|>while tossing spells at them in an attempt to slow them down.....
>|
>| Or going to the clubs being all dark and spooky (which is somehow
>|different from going to the clubs anyway being all dark and spooky).
>
>EH?

Masquerade (Vampire:TM) silly.

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Message no. 27
From: "Ubiratan P. Alberton" <ubiratan@**.HOMESHOPPING.COM.BR>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:55:56 -0300
Jeremy "Bolthy" Zimmerman escreveu:
>
> ----------
> > From: Ubiratan P. Alberton <ubiratan@**.HOMESHOPPING.COM.BR>
> > To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET
> > Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
> > Date: Monday, April 27, 1998 4:17 PM
> >
> > Physiologically speaking, intercourse between any combination of
> > races except Troll-Dwarf
> > would be possible. All IMHO.
>
> Actually, I can see Troll-Dwarf. I don't want to, but I can. It's burned
> into my retinas. Agh!


They'd have to be quite creative :) .

Ubiratan
Message no. 28
From: Jessica Grota <grota@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:05:33 -0400
> > birth control and pregnancy chances, etc. If there IS no resource, I
> > might very well consider writing up a supplement dealing with the topic
> > myself. Any thoughts on this?
>
> Yes. Read page 34 of SRII very carefully before you start writing about
> half-elves, half-orks, and other mixed-metahumans.


I'm not going to mess with the FASA rules. Mixed breeds don't exist in
the SR world, and that suits me just fine: it keeps it much simpler. I
was speaking more on the terms of...ahem...physical compatibility,
fertility, etc. I believe that the offspring either goblinizes or stays
human/etc, and that's just fine with me.
Message no. 29
From: Geoff Skellams <geoff.skellams@*********.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:55:15 +1000
On Shadowrun Discussion, Ubiratan P.
Alberton[SMTP:ubiratan@**.HOMESHOPPING.COM.BR] wrote:
> > Actually, I can see Troll-Dwarf. I don't want to, but I can. It's
burned
> > into my retinas. Agh!
>
> They'd have to be quite creative :) .

I really don't think so. My late grandfather was 6'6" and my
late grandmother was 4'10". There's not a whole lot of difference
between that and a troll and a dwarf getting it on.

cheers
Geoff

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Message no. 30
From: Nexx <nexx@********.NET>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 21:16:20 -0500
----------
> From: Jessica Grota <grota@*********.COM>
> I'm not going to mess with the FASA rules. Mixed breeds don't exist in
> the SR world, and that suits me just fine: it keeps it much simpler. I
> was speaking more on the terms of...ahem...physical compatibility,
> fertility, etc. I believe that the offspring either goblinizes or stays
> human/etc, and that's just fine with me.

Actually, if you read Germany carefully, you'll find there are
"half-breeds" of a sort. They're called mutates... beings like dwarves
born with troll hands or elves with dwarven legs. I suppose if someone
was just set on playing a "half-elf" the could be an elf born with human
ears, though I would make them take the "looks human" edge.
Message no. 31
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 23:46:02 -0400
At 09:37 AM 4/28/98 -0400, Ojaste,James [NCR] wrote these timeless words:

>[snip]
>>All I gotta say is, somehow, it doesn;t surprise me that you'd bring this
>>up :]
>
>Hmm... Nah, I won't ask. :-)
>
Jett's a regular on the #Shadowrun IRC Channel, so I know her from there...;]

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Message no. 32
From: Robert Watkins <robert.watkins@******.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:13:26 +1000
Jessica Grota writes:
>I'm not going to mess with the FASA rules. Mixed breeds don't exist in
>the SR world, and that suits me just fine: it keeps it much simpler. I
>was speaking more on the terms of...ahem...physical compatibility,
>fertility, etc. I believe that the offspring either goblinizes or stays
>human/etc, and that's just fine with me.


<straight face mode>
Physical compatibility: well, the target area stretches to greater size than
even the most well-endowed male. Of course, the guy might have to take it
easy...*
Fertility: No mixed races is the rule. The offspring is either one meta-type
or the other. The only exception: goblinized races can produce human
offspring, which goblinise at puberty. Which metatype is produced is luck.
</straight face mode>

<the picture fades to a scene in a well-to-do elven household. After months
of pregnancy, the elven noble's teen-age daughter gives birth to her
illegitimate child. His worst fears are realised: the baby is an ork...>

*Then again, maybe the appropriate pickup lines for trolls is: "Is that an
assault cannon in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?"

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Message no. 33
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:01:26 +0100
Jessica Grota said on 20:05/28 Apr 98...

> I'm not going to mess with the FASA rules. Mixed breeds don't exist in
> the SR world, and that suits me just fine: it keeps it much simpler.

And less open to abuse by munchkins. I think if you create the right blend
of all four metahuman races, you can end up with nothing but plusses (if
the GM is stupid enough to allow you, of course :)

> I was speaking more on the terms of...ahem...physical compatibility,
> fertility, etc. I believe that the offspring either goblinizes or stays
> human/etc, and that's just fine with me.

This is addressed by SRII p. 34. It'll allow you to decide fairly easily
what race the child will be.

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Message no. 34
From: Geoff Morochnick <bodiam@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:44:12 -0400
Geoff Skellams wrote:

> On Shadowrun Discussion, Ubiratan P.
> Alberton[SMTP:ubiratan@**.HOMESHOPPING.COM.BR] wrote:
> > > Actually, I can see Troll-Dwarf. I don't want to, but I can. It's
> burned
> > > into my retinas. Agh!
> >
> > They'd have to be quite creative :) .
>
> I really don't think so. My late grandfather was 6'6" and my
> late grandmother was 4'10". There's not a whole lot of difference
> between that and a troll and a dwarf getting it on.

Add about 3 feet onto grand-dad, and take a couple inches from
grandmother....

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Message no. 35
From: Jerry Hill <agh60070@*******.CC.UCF.EDU>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 07:33:48 -0400
>Add about 3 feet onto grand-dad, and take a couple inches from
>grandmother....


And don't forget the bony, sub-dermal proturbances on a troll.. <shudder>.
For the record, troll pornography is an off-limits topic for my SR group
<grin>.


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Message no. 36
From: MgkellyMP5 <MgkellyMP5@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:25:24 EDT
In a message dated 98-04-29 00:26:46 EDT, you write:

<< >>All I gotta say is, somehow, it doesn;t surprise me that you'd bring this
>>up :] >>


When was the last time *anyone* was surprised by something Jett said? ;]

Mgkelly
Message no. 37
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:00:40 +0100
And verily, did MC23 hastily scribble thusly...
|>And verily, did MC23 hastily scribble thusly...
|>|>And what's wrong with us LRPers?
|>|>It's a lot of fun being chased around country parks by a bunch of orc,
|>|>while tossing spells at them in an attempt to slow them down.....
|>|
|>| Or going to the clubs being all dark and spooky (which is somehow
|>|different from going to the clubs anyway being all dark and spooky).
|>
|>EH?
|
|Masquerade (Vampire:TM) silly.

No wonder it went *whooosh* over my head then....
The only game I've played in *that* particular little clique is Changeling,
once.

I've acoided Vampire and Werewolf like the plague. Never even read the
books.
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Message no. 38
From: Alexia Silverstein <alexia_silverstein@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 07:53:50 -0700
My character is a former bodyguard/escort to the rich...if my
character wanted to um, uh 'convince' some high official that she had
bodyguarded for before, how would one go about trying to RP it?

> > >Bull -- I stay out of RPing any sort fo sex with my group cause
were all
> > >big hairy MEN!
> >
> > Well, as long as you're not a LARPer... :-)
> >

It was the funniest thing watching a RPG for the first time. My
boyfriend's guy friends and him and one of the guys was playin a chick
and to try to get some sort of a conversation going my bf just kinda
leans towards the guy playin the chick and just says "Hi there..." in
this real macho pickup voice. I had to leave the room I was laughing
so hard.

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Message no. 39
From: "Ojaste,James [NCR]" <James.Ojaste@**.GC.CA>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:10:59 -0400
Alexia Silverstein wrote:
>My character is a former bodyguard/escort to the rich...if my
>character wanted to um, uh 'convince' some high official that she had
>bodyguarded for before, how would one go about trying to RP it?

Well, bodyguards would tend to provide references for satisfied
customers, but the escort bit may make that a little tricky.
Hidden camera vid? A simsense recording? They should do. :-)
>
>> > >Bull -- I stay out of RPing any sort fo sex with my group cause
>were all
>> > >big hairy MEN!
>> > Well, as long as you're not a LARPer... :-)
>
>It was the funniest thing watching a RPG for the first time. My
>boyfriend's guy friends and him and one of the guys was playin a chick

A pretty rare occurence in the first place... I try and make a
point of alternating, but I probably end up actually playing 55/45.

>and to try to get some sort of a conversation going my bf just kinda
>leans towards the guy playin the chick and just says "Hi there..." in
>this real macho pickup voice. I had to leave the room I was laughing
>so hard.

That reminds me of a guy I knew in university - whenever he spoke
with a girl on the phone anybody around would know, because his voice
would suddenly drop an octave. Eventually he noticed, but he couldn't
break the habit... :-)

James Ojaste
Message no. 40
From: Zixx <t_berghoff@*********.NETSURF.DE>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 20:38:26 +0000
On 27 Apr 98 at 15:57, Jessica Grota wrote:

> Heyas, all...okay, I've been dying to ask this. Is there a supplement
> either on-line or in one of the books that deals with sex in the SR
> world? I read a rather interesting article on it: inter-race
> compatibility, STDs, birth control and pregnancy chances, etc. If there
> IS no resource, I might very well consider writing up a supplement
> dealing with the topic myself. Any thoughts on this?

Jett, don't tell me you need a book to incorporte sex in your game!?! ;)
Just for the f...erm...hell of it: When we are in the mood, we do combined
body/quickness-tests.

Tobias Berghoff a.k.a Zixx
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Message no. 41
From: "Ojaste,James [NCR]" <James.Ojaste@**.GC.CA>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:18:04 -0400
Zixx wrote:
>On 27 Apr 98 at 15:57, Jessica Grota wrote:
>> Heyas, all...okay, I've been dying to ask this. Is there a supplement
>> either on-line or in one of the books that deals with sex in the SR
>> world?
>[snip]
>Jett, don't tell me you need a book to incorporte sex in your game!?! ;)
>Just for the f...erm...hell of it: When we are in the mood, we do combined
>body/quickness-tests.

Heh - I guess I'd better come clean...er...better make that "admit
that I've written up rules for sex before". The basic premise was
a special skill roll (TN 2, defaulting by one dot to Charisma) dealing
stun damage resisted with Willpower... :-)

James Ojaste
Message no. 42
From: Paul Gettle <pgettle@********.NET>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:33:26 -0400
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At 03:18 PM 4/29/98 -0400, James wrote:
>Heh - I guess I'd better come clean...er...better make that "admit
>that I've written up rules for sex before". The basic premise was
>a special skill roll (TN 2, defaulting by one dot to Charisma)
dealing
>stun damage resisted with Willpower... :-)


This is the one thing I miss about playing AD&D, ages ago. It was sooo
easy to just convert the THAC0 roll for this purpose. (then one day a
player spent a proficiency slot on it to get a bonus to his roll, and
it all got silly)

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Message no. 43
From: Nexx <nexx@********.NET>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:06:04 -0500
----------
> From: Paul Gettle <pgettle@********.NET>

> This is the one thing I miss about playing AD&D, ages ago. It was sooo
> easy to just convert the THAC0 roll for this purpose. (then one day a
> player spent a proficiency slot on it to get a bonus to his roll, and
> it all got silly)

So warriors were inherently better than wizards or (more stunning, IMO),
bards? Tell me, after the guy spent a proficiency slot, did everyone else
get non-proficiency penalties? What happened if you rolled a natural 1
(ouch, my eye!)? Did you have critical strike table?

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forever"
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better part of humor."
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Message no. 44
From: Jessica Grota <grota@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 21:01:04 -0400
MgkellyMP5 wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-04-29 00:26:46 EDT, you write:
>
> << >>All I gotta say is, somehow, it doesn;t surprise me that you'd bring
this
> >>up :] >>
>
> When was the last time *anyone* was surprised by something Jett said? ;]
>
> Mgkelly


I guess I'll have to start going out of my way to be more shocking,
then! For me, this kind of thought is normal... ;>

--Jett
Message no. 45
From: Paul Gettle <pgettle@********.NET>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 21:25:37 -0400
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At 04:06 PM 4/29/98 -0500, you wrote:
> So warriors were inherently better than wizards or (more
stunning, IMO),
>bards? Tell me, after the guy spent a proficiency slot, did everyone
else
>get non-proficiency penalties? What happened if you rolled a natural
1
>(ouch, my eye!)? Did you have critical strike table?

If I recall, all clases had the same base To-F*** number, with the
to-hit bonuses from the Dexterity chart, and the Strength chart execpt
the value for Charisma was substituted for the Strength stat.
We didn't give out non-proficiency penalties, since it was decided
that this would fall under the same category as the Punching and
Wrestling skill, where most characters would know how to some extent
(execpt prehaps for wizards or monks who grew up in very sheltered
lives)

As for natural 1s and critical hit tables.... um... that's how my
Kender Theif character contracted VD.
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Message no. 46
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 22:40:43 -0400
Once upon a time, Jessica Grota wrote;

>I guess I'll have to start going out of my way to be more shocking,
>then! For me, this kind of thought is normal... ;>

<raises eyebrow>

Do you really think you can shock all of us?

-MC23, who is now listening to Soft Cell's Entertain Me-
Message no. 47
From: Nexx <nexx@********.NET>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 22:09:25 -0500
----------
> From: Paul Gettle <pgettle@********.NET>
> As for natural 1s and critical hit tables.... um... that's how my
> Kender Theif character contracted VD.

Would that have been a natural 1 or a critical strike <g>

Sorry about the OT (OutofTaste) topic... I found it too funny to pass up
commenting on.

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Message no. 48
From: Barbie <barbie@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 19:12:34 +0100
At 28-Apr-98 wrote Bull:

>All I gotta say is, somehow, it doesn;t surprise me that you'd bring this
>up :]

><grin>


hehehe, Must be the ship of hormon thingy :)

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Message no. 49
From: Zixx <t_berghoff@*********.NETSURF.DE>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 00:16:27 +0000
On 28 Apr 98 at 17:58, Mike Elkins wrote:

> >Two children of the same parents can (statistically unlikely) share
> >none of the same genes.
>
> BTW: It's 67 million to one against, for those of you who think your sister
> is from a different planet.

Hey! My sister is from another planet. She's green and has antennas! :)

Tobias Berghoff a.k.a Zixx
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Message no. 50
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 18:49:15 EST
> > BTW: It's 67 million to one against, for those of you who think your sister
> > is from a different planet.
>
> Hey! My sister is from another planet. She's green and has antennas!

Well, given that the current-day population is somewhere's between
5-6 billion, I calculate that there are between 741-1000 or so of us
who actually DO have alien sisters.

-=SwiftOne=-
Message no. 51
From: Zixx <t_berghoff@*********.NETSURF.DE>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 22:32:05 +0000
On 29 Apr 98 at 15:18, Ojaste,James [NCR] wrote:
(Oh boy, I'm really late with this. But *I* don't want to write all those
tests!)

> >Jett, don't tell me you need a book to incorporate sex in your game!?! ;)
> >Just for the f...erm...hell of it: When we are in the mood, we do combined
> >body/quickness-tests.
>
> Heh - I guess I'd better come clean...er...better make that "admit
> that I've written up rules for sex before". The basic premise was
> a special skill roll (TN 2, defaulting by one dot to Charisma) dealing
> stun damage resisted with Willpower... :-)

ROTFLW!!!
Heck, you know you kinda messed up the samurai's way of living? AFAIK they
used to have sexual intercourse (if that's the word...) before a fight. Now
if it was a really really good f-word, bye your system, they's enter the
fight with a serious stun. Not good don't you thing?

Besides, what's the damage-code based on? Partner's sex-skill (or half
charisma) as powerlevel (modified by a personal...uhm...hornity factor!?)
and a staging of L when charisma is 1 or 2, M when it's 3 or 4, S for 5 and
6 and D for everything above it.
Does that mean Barbie could kill with sex?!

:>


Tobias Berghoff a.k.a Zixx
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Message no. 52
From: Zixx <t_berghoff@*********.NETSURF.DE>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 22:32:05 +0000
On 29 Apr 98 at 12:01, Gurth wrote:

> Jessica Grota said on 20:05/28 Apr 98...
>
> > I'm not going to mess with the FASA rules. Mixed breeds don't exist in
> > the SR world, and that suits me just fine: it keeps it much simpler.
>
> And less open to abuse by munchkins. I think if you create the right blend
> of all four metahuman races, you can end up with nothing but plusses (if
> the GM is stupid enough to allow you, of course :)

Nothing but plusses? Hey, that's called and 'elf'!




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Message no. 53
From: "Ojaste,James [NCR]" <James.Ojaste@**.GC.CA>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 09:58:11 -0400
Zixx wrote:
>> Heh - I guess I'd better come clean...er...better make that "admit
>> that I've written up rules for sex before". The basic premise was
>> a special skill roll (TN 2, defaulting by one dot to Charisma) dealing
>> stun damage resisted with Willpower... :-)
>
>ROTFLW!!!
>Heck, you know you kinda messed up the samurai's way of living? AFAIK they
>used to have sexual intercourse (if that's the word...) before a fight. Now
>if it was a really really good f-word, bye your system, they's enter the
>fight with a serious stun. Not good don't you thing?

It's a good time to just lay back and light up. ;-)

>Besides, what's the damage-code based on? Partner's sex-skill (or half
>charisma) as powerlevel (modified by a personal...uhm...hornity factor!?)
>and a staging of L when charisma is 1 or 2, M when it's 3 or 4, S for 5 and
>6 and D for everything above it.

You asked...

Base damage done is (Charisma)L. Every two net successes stage by
one level. The skill used is a special skill, defaulting to Charisma
at +2. Base TN of 2.

I hate to do this, but nothing clarifies a new rule like an example...

Alicia boinks Bob.
Alicia has a Sex skill of 4, a Cha of 5 and a Will of 3.
Bob has no Sex skill, a Cha of 3 and a Will of 5.

Alicia rolls 4 dice looking for 2s, gets 3 successes. She's dealing
5L stun damage to Bob. Bob rolls his dice, gets 2 successes and
Alicia's one net success means Bob takes light stun.

Bob rolls 3 dice looking for 4s, gets 1 success. Alicia rolls 3
dice against 3L stun and gets 2 successes. Alicia ends up with 1
net success - not enough to stage the damage down. Alicia takes
light stun.

>Does that mean Barbie could kill with sex?!

Let's see - you'd need at least 14 net successes... Of course, you'd
have to be pretty brave to get intimate with a panther in the first
place. Having just seen "Cat People" a couple of weeks ago I don't
think I'd want to try... ;-)

James Ojaste
Message no. 54
From: Lehlan Decker <decker@****.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 10:06:26 -0500
>
> Zixx wrote:

>
> >Besides, what's the damage-code based on? Partner's sex-skill (or half
> >charisma) as powerlevel (modified by a personal...uhm...hornity factor!?)
> >and a staging of L when charisma is 1 or 2, M when it's 3 or 4, S for 5 and
> >6 and D for everything above it.
>
<SNIP Sex Damage example>
>
> >Does that mean Barbie could kill with sex?!
>
> Let's see - you'd need at least 14 net successes... Of course, you'd
> have to be pretty brave to get intimate with a panther in the first
> place. Having just seen "Cat People" a couple of weeks ago I don't
> think I'd want to try... ;-)
>
ROTFLOL!!! Yes, Damage codes for sex. Sometimes I really worry about
the folks on this list. :) As far as Barbie killing with sex, you've
all heard what her measurements would be if she was real correct?
Heck at that point, I think there would be a damage bonus for the
smothering affect. :)


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Message no. 55
From: Alexia Silverstein <alexia_silverstein@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 10:33:36 -0700
<snip>
>As far as Barbie killing with sex, you've
> all heard what her measurements would be if she was real correct?
> Heck at that point, I think there would be a damage bonus for the
> smothering affect. :)

> Lehlan Decker
<snip>

Smothering, she'd have to make shure she doesn't poke out his eye...

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Message no. 56
From: Lehlan Decker <decker@****.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 13:46:35 -0500
>
> <snip>
> >As far as Barbie killing with sex, you've
> > all heard what her measurements would be if she was real correct?
> > Heck at that point, I think there would be a damage bonus for the
> > smothering affect. :)
>
> > Lehlan Decker
> <snip>
>
> Smothering, she'd have to make shure she doesn't poke out his eye...
>
That too. Doe this table take into account if their real or plastic? :)

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Message no. 57
From: Barbie <barbie@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 22:58:45 +0100
At 06-Mai-98 wrote Ojaste,James [NCR]:

ROTFLMAORH

>Base damage done is (Charisma)L. Every two net successes stage by
>one level. The skill used is a special skill, defaulting to Charisma
>at +2. Base TN of 2.

>I hate to do this, but nothing clarifies a new rule like an example...

>Alicia boinks Bob.
>Alicia has a Sex skill of 4, a Cha of 5 and a Will of 3.
>Bob has no Sex skill, a Cha of 3 and a Will of 5.

hmm, trying to follow this....
Cha 35 skill 20, will 4...
NASTY


>>Does that mean Barbie could kill with sex?!

>Let's see - you'd need at least 14 net successes... Of course, you'd
>have to be pretty brave to get intimate with a panther in the first
>place. Having just seen "Cat People" a couple of weeks ago I don't
>think I'd want to try... ;-)

Yes, she can and actually has....
Not in this way since she has somewhat `changed`, you can call it died.

The panther thing is over, been a Succubus/dream spirit with essence
drain power makes the killing much more easy ;-)

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Message no. 58
From: Wafflemeisters <evamarie@**********.NET>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 20:17:29 -0500
> Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner? (Barbie , Thu 16:58)
>
> At 06-Mai-98 wrote Ojaste,James [NCR]:
>
> ROTFLMAORH
>
> >Base damage done is (Charisma)L. Every two net successes stage by
> >one level. The skill used is a special skill, defaulting to Charisma
> >at +2. Base TN of 2.
>
> >I hate to do this, but nothing clarifies a new rule like an example...
>
Isn't sex a PHYSICAL activity? I'd say your partners stamina,
(body)size, and effort has more to do with how tired you are than thier
beuty or skill, and your physical stamina more to do with how quickly
you tire, if not other, um, time based factors. When our mage had sex
with the samuri (doesn't every good SR sex joke start that way?), she
left her "armor" spelllock ON.
Ever read "Man of steel, woman of Klenex", Nivens short essay on
Supermans (lack of a) lovelife?

-Mongoose
Message no. 59
From: "Ojaste,James [NCR]" <James.Ojaste@**.GC.CA>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 10:24:51 -0400
Mongoose wrote:
>> >Base damage done is (Charisma)L. Every two net successes stage by
>> >one level. The skill used is a special skill, defaulting to Charisma
>> >at +2. Base TN of 2.
>>
>> >I hate to do this, but nothing clarifies a new rule like an example...
>>
> Isn't sex a PHYSICAL activity? I'd say your partners stamina,
>(body)size, and effort has more to do with how tired you are than thier
>beuty or skill, and your physical stamina more to do with how quickly
>you tire, if not other, um, time based factors. When our mage had sex

I was thinking not so much of how big or strong the partner was,
but how much effort you put into it. The Willpower resistance is
supposed to take those other, um, factors into consideration... :-)

>with the samuri (doesn't every good SR sex joke start that way?), she
>left her "armor" spelllock ON.

Ah that's just a feather. Full security armour, that's the whole
chicken... :-)

> Ever read "Man of steel, woman of Klenex", Nivens short essay on
>Supermans (lack of a) lovelife?

Oh yeah - not to mention "Shall we indulge in Rishathra?" (which
applies quite well to SR!).

Niven's one of my favourites... :-)

James Ojaste
Message no. 60
From: Alexia Silverstein <alexia_silverstein@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 13:10:42 -0700
<snip>
> > Isn't sex a PHYSICAL activity? I'd say your partners
stamina,
> >(body)size, and effort has more to do with how tired you are than
thier
> >beuty or skill, and your physical stamina more to do with how quickly
> >you tire, if not other, um, time based factors.

> I was thinking not so much of how big or strong the partner was,
> but how much effort you put into it. The Willpower resistance is
> supposed to take those other, um, factors into consideration... :-)
<snip>

I never thought of Sex in quite the arobic format this list has
presented it in.
I think our GM just flipped a coin to see if it worked or not.

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Message no. 61
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 02:48:03 -0400
Once upon a time, Alexia Silverstein wrote;

>I never thought of Sex in quite the aerobic format this list has
>presented it in.
>I think our GM just flipped a coin to see if it worked or not.

Now that sounds too much like life. This should be an escapism from that.
B;>]#

-MC23, who is shuddering that he suggested an escapism from sex-
Message no. 62
From: "Ojaste,James [NCR]" <James.Ojaste@**.GC.CA>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 09:23:45 -0400
Alexia Silverstein wrote:
>> > Isn't sex a PHYSICAL activity? I'd say your partners
>stamina,
>> >(body)size, and effort has more to do with how tired you are than
>thier
>> >beuty or skill, and your physical stamina more to do with how quickly
>> >you tire, if not other, um, time based factors.
>
>> I was thinking not so much of how big or strong the partner was,
>> but how much effort you put into it. The Willpower resistance is
>> supposed to take those other, um, factors into consideration... :-)
>
>I never thought of Sex in quite the arobic format this list has
>presented it in.

No comment. ;-)

>I think our GM just flipped a coin to see if it worked or not.

Ur. You'd have to be in a pretty weird place for sex not to work...
Besides, it's good to have a mechanic indicating how tired people
are when the goons burst in with SMGs... :-)

James Ojaste
Message no. 63
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:55:38 -0400
Once upon a time, Ojaste,James [NCR] wrote;

>Ur. You'd have to be in a pretty weird place for sex not to work...

Roommates coming home (sometimes), Water in the shower going cold (I
don't like cold), In the back of a volkswagon bug (Oh wait that's
someplace uncomfortable B>]# ).

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Message no. 64
From: "Ojaste,James [NCR]" <James.Ojaste@**.GC.CA>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 14:13:07 -0400
MC23 wrote:
>>Ur. You'd have to be in a pretty weird place for sex not to work...
>
>Roommates coming home (sometimes),

Sex still works, there are just more legs. ;-)

> Water in the shower going cold (I
>don't like cold),

There's a difference between sex not working and your bioware FooFoo
going on the fritz... :-)

> In the back of a volkswagon bug (Oh wait that's
>someplace uncomfortable B>]# ).

Depends on how small you are... ;-)

James Ojaste
Message no. 65
From: Nexx <nexx@********.NET>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 13:53:10 -0500
Just to branch this subject off in a completely different direction, has
anyone had any characters who were married?

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Message no. 66
From: Lehlan Decker <decker@****.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 15:51:20 -0500
>
> Just to branch this subject off in a completely different direction, has
> anyone had any characters who were married?
>
Yep, some even more then once. :)
However they were usually background material, vs active roleplaying stuff.
Heh..actually long before edges & flaws, my GM at the time, let me take
a few extra points of skills, due to the background material. (He said
the way you describe her, she is a shadowrun in and of herself :))
What's the item in the SS Catalog, selective hearing filter. :)
But I digress....


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Message no. 67
From: Alexia Silverstein <alexia_silverstein@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 13:15:23 -0700
---Nexx <nexx@********.NET> wrote:
>
> Just to branch this subject off in a completely different direction,
has
> anyone had any characters who were married?
> <snip>
Wouldn't it be like really REALLY hard to have a relationship while
being a shadowrunner doin all this illeagle stuff. But I guess you
could probably take that as a flaw since someone could kidnap your
family...
Our GM found ways to pester all the other characters 'cept mine, so
now my pc has a little sister she really cares about back in Tir
Tangire that her father's cut all communications off from, not to
mention slapped a restraining order on her from going near her family.
Nice pop huh?
I haven't put it on the page yet, I'm workin on it on paper first.

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Message no. 68
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 21:46:34 +0100
Nexx said on 13:53/12 May 98...

> Just to branch this subject off in a completely different direction, has
> anyone had any characters who were married?

One of my players used to have (until recently) a character who had a
13-year-old daughter and got along quite well with her (i.e. the child's)
father. I believe the story was that they'd been married but split up,
although the player never was too clear on that particular part of the
character's history...

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Message no. 69
From: Alexia Silverstein <alexia_silverstein@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 13:17:38 -0700
---MC23 <mc23@**********.COM> wrote:
>
> Once upon a time, Ojaste,James [NCR] wrote;
>
> >Ur. You'd have to be in a pretty weird place for sex not to work...
>
> Roommates coming home (sometimes), Water in the shower going cold (I
> don't like cold), In the back of a volkswagon bug (Oh wait that's
> someplace uncomfortable B>]# ).

Or when the police headlights get in your eyes 'cause you're makin out
in a deserted parking lot at night (nearly deserted)...no not from
experience...not me. It wouldn't work then...I can Guarantee it.

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Message no. 70
From: "Ubiratan P. Alberton" <ubiratan@**.HOMESHOPPING.COM.BR>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:47:37 -0300
Nexx escreveu:
>
> Just to branch this subject off in a completely different direction, has
> anyone had any characters who were married?
>

A rather... naive player of my old group had a character who got
married. I
roleplayed the preparatives for fun, it was funny seeing him try to
invite all
his contacts (one of which who had double-crossed him some times) over
to the party...

Ubiratan
Message no. 71
From: "Ubiratan P. Alberton" <ubiratan@**.HOMESHOPPING.COM.BR>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:00:33 -0300
Ojaste,James [NCR] escreveu:
>
> >I think our GM just flipped a coin to see if it worked or not.
>
> Ur. You'd have to be in a pretty weird place for sex not to work...
> Besides, it's good to have a mechanic indicating how tired people
> are when the goons burst in with SMGs... :-)
>
> James Ojaste


Do you need a mechanic for _that_? Where has imagination gone to
these days :) ?

Ubiratan
Message no. 72
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 17:46:41 -0400
Once upon a time, Alexia Silverstein wrote;

>---MC23 <mc23@**********.COM> wrote:
>>
>> Once upon a time, Ojaste,James [NCR] wrote;
>>
>> >Ur. You'd have to be in a pretty weird place for sex not to work...
>>
>> Roommates coming home (sometimes), Water in the shower going cold (I
>> don't like cold), In the back of a volkswagon bug (Oh wait that's
>> someplace uncomfortable B>]# ).
>
>Or when the police headlights get in your eyes 'cause you're makin out
>in a deserted parking lot at night (nearly deserted)...no not from
>experience...not me. It wouldn't work then...I can Guarantee it.

It was a crowded club parking lot and who told you?

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Message no. 73
From: Barbie <barbie@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 00:05:00 +0100
At 12-Mai-98 wrote Nexx:

>Just to branch this subject off in a completely different direction, has
>anyone had any characters who were married?

Not yet but it looks like a somewhat strange marriage is building up...
A cat shapeshifter former cat spirit a Immortal, me as Succubus ghost
all three female and a normal elf :)
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Message no. 74
From: Pantherr <qmilton@**.NET>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 19:10:42 +0000
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> Just to branch this subject off in a completely different direction,
> has anyone had any characters who were married?

Yep. Arianna (currently my main character) is married to Katie, a
female bisexual cat shapeshifter, and it seems we're going to be
adding a Carib pirate and a ghost to the mix in the near
future.....the ghost is a former teammate who died (you know who you
are ;) ) while pregnant......

Ari and Katie just (last night's game, AAMOF) performed an odd and
lengthy ritual to transfer the ghost fetuses into their wombs and get
pregnant (Katie was luckily in heat :P ).....

Anyway, any thoughts on how a four-way marriage like that would work?

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Message no. 75
From: Geoff Skellams <geoff.skellams@*********.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 09:58:23 +1000
On Shadowrun Discussion, Pantherr[SMTP:qmilton@**.NET] wrote:
> Yep. Arianna (currently my main character) is married to Katie, a
> female bisexual cat shapeshifter, and it seems we're going to be
> adding a Carib pirate and a ghost to the mix in the near
> future.....the ghost is a former teammate who died (you know who you
> are ;) ) while pregnant......
>
Geez, that's a wierd mix :)

> Ari and Katie just (last night's game, AAMOF) performed an odd and
> lengthy ritual to transfer the ghost fetuses into their wombs and get
> pregnant (Katie was luckily in heat :P ).....
>
> Anyway, any thoughts on how a four-way marriage like that would work?

Take a look at some of the concepts in some of Robert Heinlein's
work. From memory, I think a good example can be found in "The Moon Is A
Harsh Mistress" (which is one of his best). IIRC, they have a chain
marriage with about a dozen people in it. Off the top of my head I can't
remember how it works exactly.

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Message no. 76
From: Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 20:40:19 -0500
On Wed, 13 May 1998 09:58:23 +1000 Geoff Skellams
<geoff.skellams@*********.COM.AU> writes:
>On Shadowrun Discussion, Pantherr[SMTP:qmilton@**.NET] wrote:
>> Yep. Arianna (currently my main character) is married to Katie, a
>> female bisexual cat shapeshifter, and it seems we're going to be
>> adding a Carib pirate and a ghost to the mix in the near
>> future.....the ghost is a former teammate who died (you know who you
>> are ;) ) while pregnant......
>>
> Geez, that's a wierd mix :)
>
>> Ari and Katie just (last night's game, AAMOF) performed an odd and
>> lengthy ritual to transfer the ghost fetuses into their wombs and get
>> pregnant (Katie was luckily in heat :P ).....
>>
>> Anyway, any thoughts on how a four-way marriage like that would work?
>
> Take a look at some of the concepts in some of Robert Heinlein's
>work. From memory, I think a good example can be found in "The Moon Is A
>Harsh Mistress" (which is one of his best). IIRC, they have a chain
>marriage with about a dozen people in it. Off the top of my head I can't
>remember how it works exactly.
>
>cheers
<SNIP Sig>

Hmmmm.... Other works by Heinlein:
Stranger in a Strange Land
To Sail Beyond the Sunset
Time Enough for Love
I Will Fear No Evil (for that living with a ghost thing [sorta {well,
not really but it's my fave :) }])

IIRC, all of these deal with chain marriages except for the last one.
_I_Will_
Fear_No_Evil_ does deal with a three-way relationship that's uhm, rather
interesting to say the least ... Two Guys, One Girl, and only Two Bodies
between the lot of them ...

_Stranger_In_A_Strange_Land_ might not actually have chain marriages, I
don't remember ... it's been so long since I read it ... I know it did
have a sort of free-love church ...

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Message no. 77
From: Matthew Waddilove <m_waddilove@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 07:32:01 PDT
Alexia Silverstein said
>
>---MC23 <mc23@**********.COM> wrote:
>>
>> Once upon a time, Ojaste,James [NCR] wrote;
>>
>> >Ur. You'd have to be in a pretty weird place for sex not to work...
>>
>> Roommates coming home (sometimes), Water in the shower going cold (I
>> don't like cold), In the back of a volkswagon bug (Oh wait that's
>> someplace uncomfortable B>]# ).
>
>Or when the police headlights get in your eyes 'cause you're makin out
>in a deserted parking lot at night (nearly deserted)...no not from
>experience...not me. It wouldn't work then...I can Guarantee it.
>

or the car zooming by the lay-by while your on the bonnet(hood for the
Americans).
Not me, wasn't there, and even if I woz it woz dark and you couldn't
have seen me ;-)

-Matthew Waddilove



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Message no. 78
From: Matthew Waddilove <m_waddilove@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 07:32:23 PDT
Alexia Silverstein said
>
>---MC23 <mc23@**********.COM> wrote:
>>
>> Once upon a time, Ojaste,James [NCR] wrote;
>>
>> >Ur. You'd have to be in a pretty weird place for sex not to work...
>>
>> Roommates coming home (sometimes), Water in the shower going cold (I
>> don't like cold), In the back of a volkswagon bug (Oh wait that's
>> someplace uncomfortable B>]# ).
>
>Or when the police headlights get in your eyes 'cause you're makin out
>in a deserted parking lot at night (nearly deserted)...no not from
>experience...not me. It wouldn't work then...I can Guarantee it.
>

or the car zooming by the lay-by while your on the bonnet(hood for the
Americans).
Not me, wasn't there, and even if I was you couldn't have seen me 'cause
it was dark ;-)

-Matthew Waddilove



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Message no. 79
From: John Vots <jvots@**.KO.COM>
Subject: Re: Sex and the single shadowrunner?
Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 18:15:55 -0400
>Just to branch this subject off in a completely different direction, >has
anyone had any characters who were married?

One of my Players Characters got married in the course of his shadowrunning
career. It brought up whole new ways to encourage him to make a run
for some reason or another.



Jester

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