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Message no. 1
From: Simon and Fiona sfuller@******.com.au
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:11:33 +1100
-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Smith <phil_urbanhell@*******.com>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Friday, November 10, 2000 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: Sex In SR


>True; we do occasionally involve such things in our V:TM campaign but only
>as far as the players are comfortable. SR is normally just left as "okay,
>you go back to his/her/your appartment. I don't think we need go into the
>details."
>
>Phil


The guy that usually GMs for us is a bit sexually frustrated. If your
character refuses a woman's request for sex, he makes you do dice rolls and
shit until you are forced to have sex. It can detract from the game, but
what can you say to the man?
Someone else I heard about who's wife just left him plays a female character
that is a real bitch who screws men to get what she wants then dumps them.
Oh well.
Message no. 2
From: Simon and Fiona sfuller@******.com.au
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:13:07 +1100
-----Original Message-----
From: Max Rible <slothman@*********.org>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Friday, November 10, 2000 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: Sex In SR


>Another
>one was one time when he was conjuring a Great Form water elemental,
>and returned from the Astral Quest having had to deal with the Place
>of Cheesy Porn Flicks. At that point, one of the physads started
>scatting "boum-ch'k boum-ch'k" like a porn movie soundtrack, and
>Cats clutched his head and screamed "NO!!!" That got a laugh from
>everyone without leaving the bounds of good taste too far behind.
>
Did the elemental manifest with a moustache and a mullet?
Message no. 3
From: Simon and Fiona sfuller@******.com.au
Subject: Fw: Sex In SR
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:21:08 +1100
-----Original Message-----
From: Simon and Fiona <sfuller@******.com.au>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Friday, November 10, 2000 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: Sex In SR


>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Max Rible <slothman@*********.org>
>To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
>Date: Friday, November 10, 2000 8:21 AM
>Subject: Re: Sex In SR
>
>
>>Another
>>one was one time when he was conjuring a Great Form water elemental,
>>and returned from the Astral Quest having had to deal with the Place
>>of Cheesy Porn Flicks. At that point, one of the physads started
>>scatting "boum-ch'k boum-ch'k" like a porn movie soundtrack, and
>>Cats clutched his head and screamed "NO!!!" That got a laugh from
>>everyone without leaving the bounds of good taste too far behind.
>>

Did the elemental manifest with a moustache and a mullet?
Message no. 4
From: Simon and Fiona sfuller@******.com.au
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:20:51 +1100
-----Original Message-----
From: Nexx <nexx@********.net>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Saturday, November 11, 2000 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: Sex In SR


>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Max Rible" <slothman@*********.org>
>
>> >Did the elemental manifest with a moustache and a mullet?
>>
>> I didn't have anything particular happen with the elemental...
>> especially not having him perform carnal acts with a fish! :-)
>> (Or is there a slang meaning for "mullet" I'm not aware of?)
>
>It is/was a hairstyle.
>
More importantly, it is a hairstyle that starred in many a cheesy 70's porno
flick (along with the moustache and soundtrack).
Or so I'm told.
That guy just happens to look like me.
I was young, I needed the money, OK?
Besides, it was artistic.
Message no. 5
From: Phil Smith phil_urbanhell@*******.com
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 21:10:05 GMT
I know this topic will probably quickly degenerate into immaturity very
soon, if not instantly, but;

I have been inspired by http://www.amurgsval.org/shadowrun/sex.html (and to
a certain extent
http://www.lysator.liu.se/~johol/netbooks/CarnalGuide/TOC.html). It's not a
subject that FASA can really address but has anyone put some thought into
sexual appliactions for SR technology and magic?

I came up with a few spells (contraception, enhance touch, delay orgasm) and
I know there is a few items in Tec Specs orientated around sex but it seems
a topic that few people involve in their games.

Phil

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Message no. 6
From: Max Rible slothman@*********.org
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 13:19:08 -0800
At 21:10 11/9/00 +0000, Phil Smith wrote:
>I have been inspired by http://www.amurgsval.org/shadowrun/sex.html

Thank you. I've tried to approach the subject tastefully...

> It's
> not a subject that FASA can really address but has anyone put some
> thought into sexual appliactions for SR technology and magic?

I'm sure there are a number of possibilities. The question is:
can such things be made part of the game we play? It's not exactly the
sort of thing one usually roleplays. I prefer to leave most of these
details up to the imaginations of the players, and just leave hints
at it.

When Talks-With-Cats, my Hermetic mage, is NPCing, I occasionally have
him complain of things that provide these hints without getting to
tacky details. One complaint was how he keeps getting invited to the
*really* rough S&M parties because he knows healing spells. Another
one was one time when he was conjuring a Great Form water elemental,
and returned from the Astral Quest having had to deal with the Place
of Cheesy Porn Flicks. At that point, one of the physads started
scatting "boum-ch'k boum-ch'k" like a porn movie soundtrack, and
Cats clutched his head and screamed "NO!!!" That got a laugh from
everyone without leaving the bounds of good taste too far behind.

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Message no. 7
From: Phil Smith phil_urbanhell@*******.com
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 21:35:07 GMT
>From: Max Rible <slothman@*********.org>
>>I have been inspired by http://www.amurgsval.org/shadowrun/sex.html
>
>Thank you. I've tried to approach the subject tastefully...

Oh my God; you're the guy from the Twilightrun site, (along with Gurth) you
have single handedly shaped my SR world, why haven't you been updating? :)>

>I'm sure there are a number of possibilities. The question is:
>can such things be made part of the game we play? It's not exactly the
>sort of thing one usually roleplays.

True; we do occasionally involve such things in our V:TM campaign but only
as far as the players are comfortable. SR is normally just left as "okay,
you go back to his/her/your appartment. I don't think we need go into the
details."

Phil

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Message no. 8
From: Phil Smith phil_urbanhell@*******.com
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 21:36:31 GMT
>From: Max Rible <slothman@*********.org>
>>I have been inspired by http://www.amurgsval.org/shadowrun/sex.html
>
>Thank you. I've tried to approach the subject tastefully...

Oh my God; you're the guy from the Twilightrun site, (along with Gurth) you
have single handedly shaped my SR world, why haven't you been updating? :)>

>I'm sure there are a number of possibilities. The question is:
>can such things be made part of the game we play? It's not exactly the
>sort of thing one usually roleplays.

True; we do occasionally involve such things in our V:TM campaign but only
as far as the players are comfortable. SR is normally just left as "okay,
you go back to his/her/your appartment. I don't think we need go into the
details."

Phil

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Message no. 9
From: Nexx nexx@********.net
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 15:33:31 -0600
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Smith" <phil_urbanhell@*******.com>

> >I'm sure there are a number of possibilities. The question is:
> >can such things be made part of the game we play? It's not exactly the
> >sort of thing one usually roleplays.
>
> True; we do occasionally involve such things in our V:TM campaign but only
> as far as the players are comfortable. SR is normally just left as "okay,
> you go back to his/her/your appartment. I don't think we need go into the
> details."

My D&D group is somewhat interesting with regards to this. In our group, we
have two couples, and one of the guy's characters is attracted to his
fiancée's character (though she won't touch him, and he won't admit it to
himself... she is, after all, a dirty elf). Thus, we have occasional drunk
confrontations when the warrior will try something, and then usually get
dropped (first time, the bard punched him in the throat... dropped a 2nd
level fighter in 1 hit). Like anything, its a matter of knowing the group's
tolerance level.
Message no. 10
From: Max Rible slothman@*********.org
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 13:41:35 -0800
At 21:35 11/9/00 +0000, Phil Smith wrote:
>>From: Max Rible <slothman@*********.org>
>>>I have been inspired by http://www.amurgsval.org/shadowrun/sex.html
>>
>>Thank you. I've tried to approach the subject tastefully...
>
>Oh my God; you're the guy from the Twilightrun site, (along with Gurth)
>you have single handedly shaped my SR world, why haven't you been updating? :)>

Lack of inspiration lately. Most of the stuff you find on that site
is from my finding inconsistencies or gaps in the Shadowrun world and
mortaring them over. I've kind of run out of ideas for that for the
time being, so you won't find many updates to that site for a while.
More recently I've been meddling with a high fantasy adaptation of the
Feng Shui action movie RPG. (This was something we'd been working on
for over a year before AD&D 3rd Ed came out...)
http://www.amurgsval.org/feng-shui/ if you're curious.

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Message no. 11
From: Wordman wordman@*******.com
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 16:49:50 -0500
> It's not a
> subject that FASA can really address but has anyone put some thought into
> sexual appliactions for SR technology and magic?

Take a look at the Pornomancy chapter of Atlas Games' _Unknown_Armies_.
Message no. 12
From: Max Rible slothman@*********.org
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 14:01:20 -0800
At 16:49 11/9/00 -0500, Wordman wrote:
> > It's not a
> > subject that FASA can really address but has anyone put some thought into
> > sexual appliactions for SR technology and magic?
>
>Take a look at the Pornomancy chapter of Atlas Games' _Unknown_Armies_.

_Unknown Armies_ does an excellent job of making sure that any moderately
effective type of mage is a dangerously obsessed person on the edge of
insanity or well over the edge (just as the reality-defying mages of
White Wolf *should* be). Very Tim Powers-esque (and yes, _Last Call_
was the inspiration for godwalkers). I recommend it highly. If
SR mages had to be that far into their magic, you wouldn't find quite
so many people playing them...

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Message no. 13
From: Augustus shadowrun@********.net
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 15:35:21 -0800
----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Smith <phil_urbanhell@*******.com>


> I know this topic will probably quickly degenerate into immaturity very
> soon, if not instantly, but;
>
> I have been inspired by http://www.amurgsval.org/shadowrun/sex.html (and
to
> a certain extent
> http://www.lysator.liu.se/~johol/netbooks/CarnalGuide/TOC.html). It's not
a
> subject that FASA can really address but has anyone put some thought into
> sexual appliactions for SR technology and magic?
>
> I came up with a few spells (contraception, enhance touch, delay orgasm)
and
> I know there is a few items in Tec Specs orientated around sex but it
seems
> a topic that few people involve in their games.

Cyberpunk covered abit of stuff in its books... most of the stuff has
probably been converted to shadowrun somewhere out there.

Otherwise... my personal opinion on the topic at hand...

You can either go into detail (roleplaying out the seduction and flirtation,
not the sex) or just sorta brush over it as "Hey Bob, you find a date 5
minutes before last call... a new record for your ugly mug"

But... how involved you get depends alot on the maturity of your players
(and I'm not just talking about "age" and maturity... I mean overall how
well they can handle it). Depending on the players, some might feel
uncomfortable with roleplaying it out (or having other players roleplay it
with them there)

Overall... my PCs are all 20+ and I would have to say that atleast half of
them (and about half of the PCs I've had in the past) aren't mature enough
to handle something like this. Not that I look for immature goofs or
anything like that... just thats how things are with the guys I play with.

Augustus
Message no. 14
From: Fyre - AKA Colin alan@******.demon.co.uk
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:05:38 +0000
In article <5.0.0.25.2.20001109131442.00a773d0@******.ba.best.com>, Max
Rible <slothman@*********.org> writes
>At 21:10 11/9/00 +0000, Phil Smith wrote:
>>I have been inspired by http://www.amurgsval.org/shadowrun/sex.html
>
>Thank you. I've tried to approach the subject tastefully...
>
>> It's
>> not a subject that FASA can really address but has anyone put some
>> thought into sexual appliactions for SR technology and magic?
>
>I'm sure there are a number of possibilities. The question is:
>can such things be made part of the game we play? It's not exactly the
>sort of thing one usually roleplays. I prefer to leave most of these
>details up to the imaginations of the players, and just leave hints
>at it.

I must admit I've played in a number of games where one of the
characters ends-up getting some... And come to think of it: it's almost
always the same player's character. :)

No: not mine, but at-least three times now one of my friend's characters
ended-up sleeping with some hot female. (two out of the three times she
was a big villain, and one of those two times he got her pregnant with
the equivalent of the antichrist. That was in 'Kindred of the East')

I was, however, mostly the GM's fault come to think of it. If you make
an appearance 8 female (remembering that 5 is the maximum humanly
possible in the system) the big baddie (and make the characters check to
see if they can control themselves) then you're asking for it.
>
>When Talks-With-Cats, my Hermetic mage, is NPCing, I occasionally have
>him complain of things that provide these hints without getting to
>tacky details. One complaint was how he keeps getting invited to the
>*really* rough S&M parties because he knows healing spells.

Oh dear :)

>Another
>one was one time when he was conjuring a Great Form water elemental,
>and returned from the Astral Quest having had to deal with the Place
>of Cheesy Porn Flicks. At that point, one of the physads started
>scatting "boum-ch'k boum-ch'k" like a porn movie soundtrack, and
>Cats clutched his head and screamed "NO!!!" That got a laugh from
>everyone without leaving the bounds of good taste too far behind.
>
Yes. Without a bit of humour it can be hard to approach sex both
directly _and_ tastefully. I don't know if I'd recommend it as the ideal
form of comic relief in an adventure, but people tell dirty jokes all
the time... Why not put some into the adventure? IE: Copies of
Play(dwarf/ork/troll) the top shelf of the tacky simsense stores...
DarkFyre
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Message no. 15
From: dcalvert dcalvert@*****.msn.com
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:25:09 -0600
From: Phil Smith <phil_urbanhell@*******.com>
Subject: Sex In SR


> I know this topic will probably quickly degenerate into immaturity very
> soon, if not instantly, but;
>
> I have been inspired by http://www.amurgsval.org/shadowrun/sex.html (and
to
> a certain extent
> http://www.lysator.liu.se/~johol/netbooks/CarnalGuide/TOC.html). It's not
a
> subject that FASA can really address but has anyone put some thought into
> sexual appliactions for SR technology and magic?


{disengaging lurker mode)

How come only the PCs are getting some? One of our favorite healers is an
Otter Shaman NPC who has a Tantric geas.

Gives the phrase "getting blown to shreds" a whole new meaning......8>)


Willow

{reengage lurker mode)
Message no. 16
From: Aaron Brindell Nosferotu@******.net
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 18:44:36 -0600
I once sent a group of runners in my game to the Carribean for a vacation and a
dwarf named Drawger got involved with a "sexy elven beach-babe". They met on
the beach, and this joke of "ugly dwarf meets sexy elven beach-babe" went on
till he ended up in her apartment that night. Each and every step of the way,
although we didn't really RP it out to any major degree, I made him do rolls in
the correct areas, then when the time came in her apartment.. they went in, and
he rolled .. oh I believe it was intelligence as a default for his lack of
"sex" skill, and ended up getting this elven beach-babe for a contact. ; )
Just thought someone might find it amusing.

-Khayman
Message no. 17
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 21:04:08 -0800 (PST)
<snipt!(TM)>
> It's not a subject that FASA can really address but
has anyone put some thought into sexual appliactions
for SR technology and magic?
<Phil>

*snigger*

Phil, go back into the archives and look for the
cyber/adept prostitute threads I started ages ago.
There are probably other examples, but those are the
only ones I've been on the list for.

Btw, did you know that elf ears make great sex toys?
;)

*"I'm the Doc' Pimp!"*

====Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow, aka Doc'booner, aka Doc' Vader)

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Can you SMELL what THE DOC' is COOKIN'!!!

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Message no. 18
From: Aristotle antithesis@**********.com
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 01:29:29 -0500
Phil said:
> It's not a subject that FASA can really address
> but has anyone put some thought into sexual
> appliactions for SR technology and magic?

My Reply:
I've always considered myself to be a very "open minded" individual. I've
crossed more than one border when it came to describing some kind of
sexually explicit material to my all male group, but recently one of my
players asked if his girlfriend could join the group. I was hesitant after
two really bad "tabletop relationship" incidents, but I let her in. Turns
out that she is an inspired RPer, and is gaining a better grasp of the
game than most of my veteran players. However... she sometimes finds
*ways* to distract people, or otherwise get her way, that make ME (a man
who once moderated the Undernet #Sex channel) blush crimson.

On a somewhat related note... my group was on a run and desperate for
evidence. They found a stack of simchips in a suspect's desk and the
Minotaur Mercenary decided to check them out for clues. He slotted a chip
labeled "Hank". When he jerked himself from the simdeck five minutes later
and surrendered his lunch to the porcelain gods the only thing he was
willing to say was that Hank was a Troll... Ever since that incident he
seems to have a phobia of whips and other S&M related devices.


*shrug*,
Travis "Aristotle" Heldibridle
Message no. 19
From: Nexx nexx@********.net
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:29:49 -0600
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon and Fiona" <sfuller@******.com.au>

> The guy that usually GMs for us is a bit sexually frustrated. If your
> character refuses a woman's request for sex, he makes you do dice rolls
and
> shit until you are forced to have sex. It can detract from the game, but
> what can you say to the man?
> Someone else I heard about who's wife just left him plays a female
character
> that is a real bitch who screws men to get what she wants then dumps them.
> Oh well.

Freyr's balls... am I the only guy who can't get laid but doesn't take it
out on the world with female characters?
Message no. 20
From: Max Rible slothman@*********.org
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:07:54 -0800
At 16:13 1/10/00 +1100, Simon and Fiona wrote:
>From: Max Rible <slothman@*********.org>
>
> >Another
> >one was one time when he was conjuring a Great Form water elemental,
> >and returned from the Astral Quest having had to deal with the Place
> >of Cheesy Porn Flicks. At that point, one of the physads started
> >scatting "boum-ch'k boum-ch'k" like a porn movie soundtrack, and
> >Cats clutched his head and screamed "NO!!!" That got a laugh from
> >everyone without leaving the bounds of good taste too far behind.
>
>Did the elemental manifest with a moustache and a mullet?

I didn't have anything particular happen with the elemental...
especially not having him perform carnal acts with a fish! :-)
(Or is there a slang meaning for "mullet" I'm not aware of?)

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Message no. 21
From: Nexx nexx@********.net
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:25:36 -0600
----- Original Message -----
From: "Max Rible" <slothman@*********.org>

> >Did the elemental manifest with a moustache and a mullet?
>
> I didn't have anything particular happen with the elemental...
> especially not having him perform carnal acts with a fish! :-)
> (Or is there a slang meaning for "mullet" I'm not aware of?)

It is/was a hairstyle.
Message no. 22
From: Andrew Murdoch toreador@***.bc.ca
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:24:57 -0800 (PST)
- Phil Smith <21:10/9-Nov-2000>

> I have been inspired by http://www.amurgsval.org/shadowrun/sex.html (and to
> a certain extent
> http://www.lysator.liu.se/~johol/netbooks/CarnalGuide/TOC.html). It's not a
> subject that FASA can really address but has anyone put some thought into
> sexual appliactions for SR technology and magic?

Mild: Two characters in the game I'm running are sleeping with NPCs. A
character of mine met, dated, slept with and married another PC.

Moderate: A PC Street Samurai with Cyber Muscle Replacement complained to
my character, a street doc specializing in implants and transplants, that
if he were to have kids, he'd have to artificially inseminate his wife. I
asked him why he didn't get the orgasmic inhibitor option.

Hardcore: Military surplus cyber-genitalia.

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Message no. 23
From: DemonPenta@***.com DemonPenta@***.com
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:28:33 EST
In a message dated 11/10/00 1:38:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,
nexx@********.net writes:

> Freyr's balls... am I the only guy who can't get laid but doesn't take it
> out on the world with female characters?

I don't. I just get bitter and depressed IRL.
Message no. 24
From: Nexx nexx@********.net
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:23:52 -0600
----- Original Message -----
From: <DemonPenta@***.com>

> > Freyr's balls... am I the only guy who can't get laid but doesn't take
it
> > out on the world with female characters?
>
> I don't. I just get bitter and depressed IRL.

Well, yeah. Of course I do that. However, the female character I happen to
be playing (I tend to run 3 or 4 male characters, then 1 female character)
doesn't either become a slut or a psycho-bitch because I'm having social
problems.
Message no. 25
From: Cole, Wade A. wcole@********.com
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:36:35 -0600
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nexx [mailto:nexx@********.net]
> Subject: Re: Sex In SR
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <DemonPenta@***.com>
>
> > > Freyr's balls... am I the only guy who can't get laid but
> doesn't take
> it
> > > out on the world with female characters?
> >
> > I don't. I just get bitter and depressed IRL.
>
> Well, yeah. Of course I do that. However, the female
> character I happen to
> be playing (I tend to run 3 or 4 male characters, then 1
> female character)
> doesn't either become a slut or a psycho-bitch because I'm
> having social
> problems.
>
>
>
Speaking as the misogynist that I was, (not anymore, but I'm still
pretty certain that women spend most of their time in the loony bin) then
how would you play them? "...like a man, and then you take away
accountability and reason?"
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From: kat kat@**.sympatico.ca
Subject: Sex in SR
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:54:22 -0500
> From: "Phil Smith" <phil_urbanhell@*******.com>
> Subject: Sex In SR
>
> I know this topic will probably quickly degenerate into immaturity very
> soon, if not instantly, but;
>
> I have been inspired by http://www.amurgsval.org/shadowrun/sex.html (and to
> a certain extent
> http://www.lysator.liu.se/~johol/netbooks/CarnalGuide/TOC.html). It's not a
> subject that FASA can really address but has anyone put some thought into
> sexual appliactions for SR technology and magic?
>
> I came up with a few spells (contraception, enhance touch, delay orgasm) and
> I know there is a few items in Tec Specs orientated around sex but it seems
> a topic that few people involve in their games.
>

The games I've played in usually had various characters in various relationships while in
SR said relationship has to be dealt with by the character or personal problems could
arise which could affect their job
(and in this business their life.)

Magic is most interesting when dealing with sex. Illusion spells could be used by high
priced call girls and pimps/madames to make their product the most desired. It could make
an plot point for an adventure.

Hermetic magic has a trantic tradition that would make a PC an interesting and challenging
one to play while a sex addiction flaw could complicate things for both player and group.

How a group handles the topic depends on the concensus of the group. I joined an all male
group who had never played with a woman before. After a couple of session I (novice that
I was) could tell they were
toning things done because I was there. For example: how many barbarians pass on a whore
house?!! It took me a little while to break the barriers but once the guys realized that
I wouldn't be offended things;
the guys started playing their characters the way they normally would.

Kat
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Message no. 27
From: Rat winterhawk@*********.net
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:53:50 -0800
From: Max Rible <slothman@*********.org>

> >
> >Did the elemental manifest with a moustache and a mullet?
>
> I didn't have anything particular happen with the elemental...
> especially not having him perform carnal acts with a fish! :-)
> (Or is there a slang meaning for "mullet" I'm not aware of?)


A mullet is a rather maligned hairstyle wherein the top is
cut very short and the back is left long (also known as
"hockey hair" and numerous other less flattering names).

You can see many examples of mullets at:

http://www.mulletsgalore.com/

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Message no. 28
From: Aaron Brindell Nosferotu@******.net
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:15:56 -0600
Rat wrote:

> From: Max Rible <slothman@*********.org>
>
> > >
> > >Did the elemental manifest with a moustache and a mullet?
> >
> > I didn't have anything particular happen with the elemental...
> > especially not having him perform carnal acts with a fish! :-)
> > (Or is there a slang meaning for "mullet" I'm not aware of?)
>
> A mullet is a rather maligned hairstyle wherein the top is
> cut very short and the back is left long (also known as
> "hockey hair" and numerous other less flattering names).
>
> You can see many examples of mullets at:
>
> http://www.mulletsgalore.com/
>

Fear the Mullet.
Message no. 29
From: Nexx nexx@********.net
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:42:07 -0600
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Brindell" <Nosferotu@******.net>

> > A mullet is a rather maligned hairstyle wherein the top is
> > cut very short and the back is left long (also known as
> > "hockey hair" and numerous other less flattering names).
> >
> > You can see many examples of mullets at:
> >
> > http://www.mulletsgalore.com/
> >
>
> Fear the Mullet.

IT HAS A %*&#%^* WEBSITE??????

Sorry about the shouting... I think I need a drink...
Message no. 30
From: Bira ra002585@**.unicamp.br
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:59:24 GMT
> Mild: Two characters in the game I'm running are sleeping with NPCs. A
> character of mine met, dated, slept with and married another PC.
>
> Moderate: A PC Street Samurai with Cyber Muscle Replacement complained to
> my character, a street doc specializing in implants and transplants, that
> if he were to have kids, he'd have to artificially inseminate his wife. I
> asked him why he didn't get the orgasmic inhibitor option.
>
> Hardcore: Military surplus cyber-genitalia.

One place you could look for inspiration in how to include the
issue of cyber-implants and sex in your games is the AD. Police
Casefiles , a series of three OAV's related to the anime Bubblegum
Crisis (the original one, set in 2032).

The first one has a female android going haywire because she has
sexual functions nearly identical to that of a human woman, and the
emotions involved where too much for her mind to handle.

The second has a woman that had her reproductive system removed
and replaced specifically to remove the hormonal cycles (menstruation,
etc.). She was an exec and lost a job opportunity because her (male)
rival showed graphs "proving" that her productivity decreased at the
time of menstruation....


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Message no. 31
From: Andrew Gryphon webmaster@*********.com
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:02:25 -0600
on 11/10/00 6:59 PM, Bira at ra002585@**.unicamp.br e-scribed:

> The first one has a female android going haywire because she has
> sexual functions nearly identical to that of a human woman, and the
> emotions involved where too much for her mind to handle.

There's an android similar in Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire. Very
intriguing, but *way* too Hi-tech for SR.

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Message no. 32
From: Phil Smith phil_urbanhell@*******.com
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:06:21 GMT
>From: Andrew Gryphon <webmaster@*********.com>
> > The first one has a female android going haywire because she has
> > sexual functions nearly identical to that of a human woman, and the
> > emotions involved where too much for her mind to handle.
>
>There's an android similar in Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire. Very
>intriguing, but *way* too Hi-tech for SR.

Yeah, androids would require AI and, whilst that does exist in SR, we are a
long way off putting them into something comercially viable. If you wanted
to convert that plot, cyberzombies are the closest thing SR has to sentient
robots, it would not be the same but a cyberzombie may keep on gettling
flashbacks of having sex. The neurons just don't match up any more and they
have loads of emotions they don't know how to deal with. During an security
operation it goes ballistic and runs off. The corp wants it back unharmed.

Just picture it; having to deal with a sexually frustrated cyberzombie :)>

Phil

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Message no. 33
From: Andrew Gryphon webmaster@*********.com
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:31:06 -0600
on 11/11/00 5:06 AM, Phil Smith at phil_urbanhell@*******.com can't deny
saying:

> Yeah, androids would require AI and, whilst that does exist in SR, we are a
> long way off putting them into something comercially viable. If you wanted
> to convert that plot, cyberzombies are the closest thing SR has to sentient
> robots, it would not be the same but a cyberzombie may keep on gettling
> flashbacks of having sex. The neurons just don't match up any more and they
> have loads of emotions they don't know how to deal with. During an security
> operation it goes ballistic and runs off. The corp wants it back unharmed.

Ever read the comic "Camelot 3000"? I used the Neo-men (cybernetically
altered criminals: mind-wiped big strong servants) in an adventure. They'd
gotten free, and the runners had to hunt them down & get rid of them
quietly.

> Just picture it; having to deal with a sexually frustrated cyberzombie :)>

<shudder>
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Message no. 34
From: Rat winterhawk@*********.net
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 09:54:58 -0800
From: "Nexx" <nexx@********.net>

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aaron Brindell" <Nosferotu@******.net>
>
> > > A mullet is a rather maligned hairstyle wherein the top is
> > > cut very short and the back is left long (also known as
> > > "hockey hair" and numerous other less flattering names).
> > >
> > > You can see many examples of mullets at:
> > >
> > > http://www.mulletsgalore.com/
> > >
> >
> > Fear the Mullet.
>
> IT HAS A %*&#%^* WEBSITE??????
>
> Sorry about the shouting... I think I need a drink...
>
>

Have a couple more before you check this link:

http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Humor/Hair/Mullet/

--Rat

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Message no. 35
From: Bira ra002585@**.unicamp.br
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 20:31:41 GMT
On Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:06:21 GMT
"Phil Smith" <phil_urbanhell@*******.com> wrote:

>
> Yeah, androids would require AI and, whilst that does exist in SR, we are a
> long way off putting them into something comercially viable. If you wanted
> to convert that plot, cyberzombies are the closest thing SR has to sentient
> robots, it would not be the same but a cyberzombie may keep on gettling
> flashbacks of having sex. The neurons just don't match up any more and they
> have loads of emotions they don't know how to deal with. During an security
> operation it goes ballistic and runs off. The corp wants it back unharmed.
>
> Just picture it; having to deal with a sexually frustrated cyberzombie :)>
>
> Phil

Considering the amount of cyber they're bound to have, a
cyberzombie would be frustrated by pretty much anything he used to do in
his former life...

And, depending on your definition of "android", they can exist
in SR. If you view them merely as robots with human appearance, they
don't require an AI. You could stuff their heads with a bunch of skill
chips and a basic personality program (something a normal SR computer
can run, not real AI). Better yet if it's a "cybernetic android"
(cyberdroid?), made partially of organic material and with the metal
looking a lot standard cyberware.


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Message no. 36
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 12:38:05 +0100
According to Phil Smith, on Sat, 11 Nov 2000 the word on the street was...

> Just picture it; having to deal with a sexually frustrated cyberzombie :)>

Just hook it up to a simsense machine and rent some porn sims for it...

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Message no. 37
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Sex In SR
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 23:28:48 -0800 (PST)
> > > > You can see many examples of mullets at:
> > > > http://www.mulletsgalore.com/
> > >
> > > Fear the Mullet.
> >
> > IT HAS A %*&#%^* WEBSITE??????
> >
> > Sorry about the shouting... I think I need a
drink...
>
> Have a couple more before you check this link:
>
>
http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Humor/Hair/Mullet/
> --Rat

Woohoo!

I adopted the Agassi Mullet! :)

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