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Message no. 1
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Mister Incognito)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Mon Jun 25 11:35:01 2001
Boony wrote:

> I got these off FASA's web site after some SERIOUS digging... looks
>like they just got lost in the shuffle somewhere. Looks like the SR
>universe was set to take a very strange turn... maybe this explains
>some things.
>would appear that product 7218, which lies between 7217 (Target:
>Awakened Lands) and 7219 (Target: Matrix) does not exist. Does
>anyone know what is/was supposed to be there?

[SNIP Target: Space/Spring Break Descriptions]

Cheers. A friend was moaning about Mikes handling of Shadowrun so I figure
I'll just show him the Target: Space piece so that should change his mind.
When I first read it I figured that it was taking the piss. Still not a 100%
sure of it. ;)
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Message no. 2
From: shadowrn@*********.com (BD)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Mon Jun 25 12:20:01 2001
> [SNIP Target: Space/Spring Break Descriptions]
>
> Cheers. A friend was moaning about Mikes handling of Shadowrun so I
> figure
> I'll just show him the Target: Space piece so that should change his
> mind.
> When I first read it I figured that it was taking the piss. Still not a
> 100% sure of it. ;)

Heh :) Actually, it'll be real soon enough. Yep, I wrote up the whole
book and sent her off to FanPro about four months ago... should be seeing
it in print by February or so. Oh, the money'll be ROLLIN' in...

Haven't heard anything back yet, of course, but I put that down to the
whole "restarting SR" thing. Yep, I'm just waitin' by the phone...








Just waitin'...







Yep. ROLLIN' in.



====-Boondocker

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Message no. 3
From: shadowrn@*********.com (John Pederson)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Tue Jun 26 22:15:01 2001
BD wrote:
[SNIPPAGE: Re: Target: Space: Overuse of Colons]

> Heh :) Actually, it'll be real soon enough. Yep, I wrote up the whole
> book and sent her off to FanPro about four months ago... should be seeing
> it in print by February or so. Oh, the money'll be ROLLIN' in...
>
> Haven't heard anything back yet, of course, but I put that down to the
> whole "restarting SR" thing. Yep, I'm just waitin' by the phone...

<thought type="random">
So, did you include the Muchikin[0][1] adept?
</thought>

0. Not that you had anything to do with it, BD. Not that I had anything
to do with it.
1. I think I just dated myself.

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Message no. 4
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Keith Duthie)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Wed Jun 27 04:30:01 2001
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, John Pederson wrote:

> 1. I think I just dated myself.

Well, I hope you got yourself some flowers and a nice dinner, then...

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Message no. 5
From: shadowrn@*********.com (John Pederson)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Wed Jun 27 08:10:01 2001
Keith Duthie wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, John Pederson wrote:
>
>
>>1. I think I just dated myself.
>>
>
> Well, I hope you got yourself some flowers and a nice dinner, then...


That was *so* not what I meant.

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Message no. 6
From: shadowrn@*********.com (BD)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Wed Jun 27 10:00:01 2001
>>>1. I think I just dated myself.

>> Well, I hope you got yourself some flowers and a nice dinner, then...
>
>
> That was *so* not what I meant.
> John Pederson

It's okay, John. We've all had lonely nights ;)

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Message no. 7
From: shadowrn@*********.com (John Pederson)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Wed Jun 27 10:35:01 2001
-------------------
> >>>1. I think I just dated myself.
>
> >> Well, I hope you got yourself some flowers and a nice dinner,
then...
> >
> >
> > That was *so* not what I meant.
> > John Pederson
>
> It's okay, John. We've all had lonely nights ;)

One of these days, I'll get you all...

--
John Pederson, plotting away the long, summer nights.
Message no. 8
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Strago)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Wed Jun 27 15:10:01 2001
Keith Duthie wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, John Pederson wrote:
>
> > 1. I think I just dated myself.
>
> Well, I hope you got yourself some flowers and a nice dinner, then...
>

And then there's the all important question: did you get lucky? :^)

>
> --
> Understanding is a three edged sword. Do you *want* to get the point?
> http://www.albatross.co.nz/~psycho/ O- -><-
> Standard disclaimer: Opinions expressed in this message are unlikely to
> be mine, let alone anybody elses...

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Message no. 9
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Strago)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Wed Jun 27 15:25:01 2001
John Pederson wrote:

> -------------------
> > >>>1. I think I just dated myself.
> >
> > >> Well, I hope you got yourself some flowers and a nice dinner,
> then...
> > >
> > >
> > > That was *so* not what I meant.
> > > John Pederson
> >
> > It's okay, John. We've all had lonely nights ;)
>
> One of these days, I'll get you all...
>

why did I just think of that guy in the old Inspector Gadget cartoon?
"I'll get you next time Gadget . . . NEXT TIME!!!!!"

>
> --
> John Pederson, plotting away the long, summer nights.

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Message no. 10
From: shadowrn@*********.com (John Pederson)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Wed Jun 27 18:35:01 2001
Strago wrote:

> And then there's the all important question: did you get lucky? :^)


You know, I think it's best if I pretend I didn't see that question.


and later:
> why did I just think of that guy in the old Inspector Gadget cartoon?
> "I'll get you next time Gadget . . . NEXT TIME!!!!!"


You know, I don't have to take this sort of abuse. I could just go home.

And I bear absolutely no resemblance to Dr. Claw (well, judging from
could be seen of him, anyway).

Mmmm... Warped Tour in Indy...

To turn this into something of an on-topic topic, I hope you'll excuse
the non-sequitur, but:

Aside from Maria Mercurial and Concrete Dreams, are there any big names
in the music business that canon material has mentioned? Any information
regarding current prevailing styles in popular music?

--
John Pederson
Message no. 11
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Valeu John EMFA)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Wed Jun 27 20:05:01 2001
<snip>

>To turn this into something of an on-topic topic, I hope you'll excuse
>the non-sequitur, but:

>Aside from Maria Mercurial and Concrete Dreams, are there any big names
>in the music business that canon material has mentioned? Any information
>regarding current prevailing styles in popular music?

One stage before has the runners trailing a music group that's extremely
popular (and their vampire ex-band mate).
And in the first edition Seattle Sourcebook, there's the Comfortably Numb (a
Pink Floyd cover group).

That's all that comes to mind right now.

EMFA John Valeu
-AKA- TimeKeeper
"Insert witty quote or text here"
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Message no. 12
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Strago)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Wed Jun 27 22:25:01 2001
John Pederson wrote:

> <SNIP>
> and later:
> > why did I just think of that guy in the old Inspector Gadget cartoon?
> > "I'll get you next time Gadget . . . NEXT TIME!!!!!"
>
> You know, I don't have to take this sort of abuse. I could just go home.
>

C'mon. It's not that bad. Really. :^)

> <SNIP>
> Aside from Maria Mercurial and Concrete Dreams, are there any big names
> in the music business that canon material has mentioned? Any information
> regarding current prevailing styles in popular music?
>

I remember one of my friends, who got me into Shadowrun, talking about some
troll thrasher band . . . Darwin's Bastards perhaps? Though this may be
non-cannon.


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Message no. 13
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Euphonium)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Thu Jun 28 14:20:02 2001
----- Original Message -----
From: "Valeu John EMFA" <ValeuJ@*************.navy.mil>
To: <shadowrn@*********.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 11:05 AM
Subject: RE: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs


<snip>

>To turn this into something of an on-topic topic, I hope you'll excuse
>the non-sequitur, but:
>
>Aside from Maria Mercurial and Concrete Dreams, are there any big names
>in the music business that canon material has mentioned? Any information
>regarding current prevailing styles in popular music?

the One Stage Before scenario is based around a band called the Shadows, who
used to work with the late, great Jetblack, elven rock legend of the late
2040s

the Total Eclipse scenario is about an up and coming band, the Elementals,
who are about to release their 1st album, but I don't know how big the band
becomes...

Dunkelzahn's Legacy mentions a large grant to a band named Shieldwall, "to
help them complete their rock opera"

A couple of the novels have mentioned a troll thrash band called Darwin's
Bastards

>>>>>[I used to be against the idea of Mind-Control Lasers, but now I can't
imagine how I ever lived without them]<<<<<
Message no. 14
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Lars Wagner Hansen)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Sat Jun 30 06:05:01 2001
From: "Valeu John EMFA" <ValeuJ@*************.navy.mil>
> One stage before has the runners trailing a music group that's extremely
> popular XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Thanks for the spoiler space!!! Not!

Lars
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Message no. 15
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Lars Wagner Hansen)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Sat Jun 30 08:45:07 2001
From: "John Pederson" <pedersje@**.rose-hulman.edu>
>
> Aside from Maria Mercurial and Concrete Dreams, are there any big names
> in the music business that canon material has mentioned?

Shadowbeat mentiones the following, in addition to Maria Mercurial (p6/7) and
Concrete Dreams with Warren Cartwright, Andrea Frost, Moira Thornton and
Francois Nyanze (p7): Zazz with Zir Zemo (p8), Starfire with Hairy Krishna
(p16), Darwin's Bastards with "Gristlehide" Brannigan (p17), Eight Imortals with
Tony Li (p17), Til Es Hault with Sandra Willowfall (p17), Thunderdance with
Harvey Voice of Rivers (p17), Enoch Ian Keys (p17), Trollgate (p17), Darkvine
(in the KA-POW! KA-POW! secition), Shield Wall with Sheena M, Jay K and Doris
(in the KA-POW! KA-POW! section), Teddy X (in the KA-POW! KA-POW! section), The
Newrons with Billy Synapse (p93).

Dark Angel stars in the adventure of the same name, and published a record
called Earth Dawn (another reference to ED!).

The adventure "One Stage Before" stars The Shadows with Jetblack, Marli
Bremerton, Joey Nightmare, Sid Id and Ernest Hawkins.

The adventure "Total Eclipse" stars The Emelemtals with Whispering Wind,
Wildfire, Bambi and Coyote.

Mercurial stars in the adventure of the same name.

And then there is Euphoria in the adventure "Queen Euphoria", although she is a
sim-star, not a rock-star.

> Any information regarding current prevailing styles in popular music?

Shield Wall was going to make an opera based on a "fusion Menotti/Celtic Metal
sound, built around some Algonkian mtyh cycles"
There are also elvenrock.
Eight Imortals play neo-Maoist raga-metal sound.
Til Es Hault is NeoCeltic

Lars
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Message no. 16
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Valeu John EMFA)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Sat Jun 30 11:20:01 2001
> From: "Valeu John EMFA" <ValeuJ@*************.navy.mil>
> > One stage before has the runners trailing a music group that's extremel> y
> > popular XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>
> Thanks for the spoiler space!!! Not!
>
> Lars
>
[Valeu John EMFA]
What spoiler space?? It tells you this on the back of the freakin
cover!
Message no. 17
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Lars Wagner Hansen)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Sat Jun 30 12:05:06 2001
From: "Valeu John EMFA" <ValeuJ@*************.navy.mil>
> > From: "Valeu John EMFA" <ValeuJ@*************.navy.mil>
> > > One stage before has the runners trailing a music group that's extremel>
> y
> > > popular XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
> >
> > Thanks for the spoiler space!!! Not!
> >
> > Lars
> >
> [Valeu John EMFA]
> What spoiler space?? It tells you this on the back of the freakin
> cover!

But even the back cover is for the GM! At least my players don't even look at
the adventures until they have been on the run, or have to GM the adventure
themselves.

And in any case it dosn't say a word about Jetblack on the cover of "One Stage
Before", so you shouting it out to everybody has spoiled it! Maybe you should
check before making statements like this.

Lars
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Message no. 18
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Valeu John EMFA)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Sat Jun 30 12:25:01 2001
> From: "Valeu John EMFA" <ValeuJ@*************.navy.mil>
> > > From: "Valeu John EMFA" <ValeuJ@*************.navy.mil>
> > > > One stage before has the runners trailing a music group that's
extr> emel=
> > > y
> > > > popular XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
> > >
> > > Thanks for the spoiler space!!! Not!
> > >
> > > Lars
> > >
> > [Valeu John EMFA]
> > What spoiler space?? It tells you this on the back of the freakin
> > cover!
>
> But even the back cover is for the GM! At least my players don't even loo> k at
> the adventures until they have been on the run, or have to GM the adventu> re
> themselves.
>
> And in any case it dosn't say a word about Jetblack on the cover of "One >
Stage
> Before", so you shouting it out to everybody has spoiled it! Maybe you sh>
ould
> check before making statements like this.
>
> Lars
>
[Valeu John EMFA]
I refer you to my post on Re: first adventure.
Message no. 19
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Lars Wagner Hansen)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Sat Jun 30 13:15:02 2001
From: "Valeu John EMFA" <ValeuJ@*************.navy.mil>
<Snip>
> [Valeu John EMFA]
> I refer you to my post on Re: first adventure.

Well then mayby you should think before posting, since you can't check.

Better to keep your mouth shut, than to ruin something for somebody else.

Lars
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Message no. 20
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Valeu John EMFA)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Sat Jun 30 14:50:01 2001
From: "Valeu John EMFA" <ValeuJ@*************.navy.mil>
<Snip>
> [Valeu John EMFA]
> I refer you to my post on Re: first adventure.

Well then mayby you should think before posting, since you can't check.

Better to keep your mouth shut, than to ruin something for somebody else.

Lars


Noted. From now on I will only comment on things I can verify (Basicly main
rules, OTs, and side bits). Besides, I never mentioned the big supprise
that happens during the adventure, just that the players have to track a
popular musical group.
Message no. 21
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Valeu John EMFA)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Sat Jun 30 18:30:01 2001
From: "Valeu John EMFA" <ValeuJ@*************.navy.mil>
>
> Noted. From now on I will only comment on things I can verify (Basicly main
> rules, OTs, and side bits). Besides, I never mentioned the big supprise
> that happens during the adventure, just that the players have to track a
> popular musical group.

But you also mentioned that Jetblack was turned into a vampire! Which is a major
plot in the adventure!

Lars

check your stats, Lars. It wasn't me. I only said that the adventure
involved the runners tailing a musical group. It was some other guy that
posted the spoiler.
Message no. 22
From: shadowrn@*********.com (BD)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Sat Jun 30 18:45:01 2001
>> But you also mentioned that Jetblack was [BLANKETY-BLANK-BLANK] Which is
>> a major plot in the adventure!
>> Lars

> check your stats, Lars. It wasn't me. I only said that the adventure
> involved the runners tailing a musical group. It was some other guy that
> posted the spoiler.

GRAAAH, and now you both have!! Geez :P Just call it a day and stop,
okay guys? Okay.

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Message no. 23
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Lars Wagner Hansen)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Sat Jun 30 19:30:00 2001
From: "BD" <l3oondocker@*****.com>
> GRAAAH, and now you both have!! Geez :P Just call it a day and stop,
> okay guys? Okay.

Or maybe John Valeu should just learn to keep private messages private and off
the list.

Lars
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Message no. 24
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Valeu John EMFA)
Subject: ShadowRN digest, Vol 1 #1456 - 23 msgs
Date: Sun Jul 1 04:00:01 2001
From: "BD" <l3oondocker@*****.com>
> GRAAAH, and now you both have!! Geez :P Just call it a day and stop,
> okay guys? Okay.

Or maybe John Valeu should just learn to keep private messages private and off
the list.

Lars

Yeah, maybe I should.... Look, it's going to be a, ah frag it. Nevermind.
I screwed up.
I'm sorry, ok?
Can we just drop the whole thing?

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