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Message no. 1
From: jzealey@***.edu.au (James Zealey)
Subject: ShadowRN Digest, Vol 156, Issue 1
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:00:05 +1100
> This time, my question is quite simple: does the "multiple targets"
> (+2/additional target, from the ranged combat modifiers table, SR3
> somewhere around p110) modifier apply to sensor-enhanced gunnery? My
> understanding is that it doesn't (from a "realism" point of view, the
> targeting computer probably has enough processing power to calculate the
> weapon's trajectory with at the very least a few milliseconds of
> advance), but the rules are a bit unclear there. While they explicitely
> state that all the standard modifiers apply to /manual/ gunnery, they
> remain vague when it comes to SEG... I've always considered that the
> modifiers from the SEG table (SR3, p~150) were all that applied, but I'd
> like to be sure...
>
> Thanks in advance...
>
>

It's a complex action to acquire a target for SEG. I'm under the
impression that it's not possible to have multiple targets acquired
simultaeneously. In addition, it's a complex action to fire using SEG.
Hence, +2/additional target cannot apply because you are limited to a
single target in an action anyway.
Message no. 2
From: nightgyr@*********.com.au (GreyWolf)
Subject: ShadowRN Digest, Vol 156, Issue 1
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:25:08 +1100
> > This time, my question is quite simple: does the "multiple
targets"
> > (+2/additional target, from the ranged combat modifiers table, SR3
> > somewhere around p110) modifier apply to sensor-enhanced gunnery? My
> > understanding is that it doesn't (from a "realism" point of view, the
> > targeting computer probably has enough processing power to calculate the
> > weapon's trajectory with at the very least a few milliseconds of
> > advance), but the rules are a bit unclear there. While they explicitely
> > state that all the standard modifiers apply to /manual/ gunnery, they
> > remain vague when it comes to SEG... I've always considered that the
> > modifiers from the SEG table (SR3, p~150) were all that applied, but I'd
> > like to be sure...
> >
> > Thanks in advance...
>
> It's a complex action to acquire a target for SEG. I'm under the
> impression that it's not possible to have multiple targets acquired
> simultaeneously. In addition, it's a complex action to fire using SEG.
> Hence, +2/additional target cannot apply because you are limited to a
> single target in an action anyway.

Not true.. well not completely. Automatic fire can still be swept across
targets when using SEG. In my games on the rare occasion the rigger actually
remembers he can use SEG, I apply standard modifiers for sweeping full auto
fire across multiple targets. Only the target locked onto with SEG gains any
bonus though.

GreyWolf
Message no. 3
From: Gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: ShadowRN Digest, Vol 156, Issue 1
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:57:30 +0100
According to James Zealey, on Mon, 10 Feb 2003 the word on the street was...

> It's a complex action to acquire a target for SEG. I'm under the
> impression that it's not possible to have multiple targets acquired
> simultaeneously. In addition, it's a complex action to fire using SEG.
> Hence, +2/additional target cannot apply because you are limited to a
> single target in an action anyway.

Certainly under normal circumstances, you can fire at multiple targets in a
single Complex Action by using automatic fire, which is what the +2 per
target is for. Since, as you say, acquiring a target for sensor-enhanced
gunnery is a Complex Action, that does imply that you can only fire at a
single target at a time. However, I don't see a problem with designating an
area as a target ("Computer, shoot at everything between this corner of the
building, and this door"), and then using suppressive fire against that
target.

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