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Message no. 1
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:46:54 +0000
Hey, does anyone know what is going on with the ShadowRN t-shirt?
Has anyone gotten their shirt?

Is Faux Pas still around on the list?

What's up?

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Message no. 2
From: GRANITE <granite@**.NET>
Subject: Re: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:21:08 -0700
> Hey, does anyone know what is going on with the ShadowRN t-shirt?

Nope..

> Has anyone gotten their shirt?

Not as far as I know..

> Is Faux Pas still around on the list?

Yea..I think so..

> What's up?

Well according to what I have been able to find out..He went and got
married and put everything on the back burner so to speak.. I've
gotten a reply from him before GenCon but that was the last I heard
of him...
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Message no. 3
From: Gweedo The Killer Pimp <yawas@****.COM>
Subject: Re: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 23:21:17 -0500
On Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:21:08 -0700 GRANITE <granite@**.NET> writes:
>> Hey, does anyone know what is going on with the ShadowRN t-shirt?
>
>Nope..

I'm hoping that it's somewhere in the printing stages.

>> Has anyone gotten their shirt?
>
>Not as far as I know..

I keep hoping that maybe with the UPS strike, it just was sent late, but
every passing day seems to kill that hope.

>> Is Faux Pas still around on the list?
>
>Yea..I think so..

Haven't seen him post in a buttload of a long time.

>> What's up?
>
>Well according to what I have been able to find out..He went and got
>married and put everything on the back burner so to speak.. I've
>gotten a reply from him before GenCon but that was the last I heard
>of him...

Well then, your information is a lot more update then mine. Last I
talked to him, was when I rejoined the list not too long ago.

Gweedo the Killer pimp!
Message no. 4
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 08:32:39 +0000
> Haven't seen him post in a buttload of a long time.

Hmm....a "buttload" of time. Wow. What an incredibly if somewhat
obscenly fascinating image.

:)
Brett Borger
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AAP Techie
Message no. 5
From: William Monroe Ashe <wma6617@****.TAMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 08:11:19 -0500
On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, Drekhead wrote:

> Hey, does anyone know what is going on with the ShadowRN t-shirt?
> Has anyone gotten their shirt?
>
> Is Faux Pas still around on the list?
>
> What's up?
Faux Pas is currently moving up to New York City. He's having trouble
finding a place to live right now. He and his new wife are currently
crashing at her uncles. As I understanmd it the T-shirts are printed and
are ready to go. They would have ghone out sooner except for the UPS
strike, then the wedding itself.


I know this probably doesn't help, but you haven't been stiffed.



regards

Bill
Message no. 6
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 09:37:29 +0000
On 11 Sep 97 at 8:11, William Monroe Ashe wrote:

> I know this probably doesn't help, but you haven't been stiffed.
>

I know that. I wouldn't ever imply such a thing of Thomas; just
concerned and really wanting my shirt. That's all.

Thanks for the reply.

So they will be shipped soon then?

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Message no. 7
From: Gweedo The Killer Pimp <yawas@****.COM>
Subject: Re: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 17:53:10 -0500
On Thu, 11 Sep 1997 08:32:39 +0000 Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU> writes:
>> Haven't seen him post in a buttload of a long time.
>
>Hmm....a "buttload" of time. Wow. What an incredibly if somewhat
>obscenly fascinating image.

Better than a monkey screwing a football if you ask me! ;)

Gweedo the Killer Pimp!
Message no. 8
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 08:19:06 +0000
> >> Haven't seen him post in a buttload of a long time.
> >
> >Hmm....a "buttload" of time. Wow. What an incredibly if somewhat
> >obscenly fascinating image.
>
> Better than a monkey screwing a football if you ask me! ;)

Good Point. I guess when I saw the Monkey one, I just couldn't
figure out the logistics (I still haven't, unless the monkey is
female...)


Brett Borger
SwiftOne@***.edu
AAP Techie
Message no. 9
From: Gweedo The Killer Pimp <yawas@****.COM>
Subject: Re: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 11:13:17 -0500
On Fri, 12 Sep 1997 08:19:06 +0000 Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU> writes:
>> >> Haven't seen him post in a buttload of a long time.
>> >
>> >Hmm....a "buttload" of time. Wow. What an incredibly if somewhat
>> >obscenly fascinating image.
>>
>> Better than a monkey screwing a football if you ask me! ;)
>
>Good Point. I guess when I saw the Monkey one, I just couldn't
>figure out the logistics (I still haven't, unless the monkey is
>female...)

Hey, it's no worse than a chiwawa(boy I know that's misspelled, but do I
care?), and a and a boxer having puppies (either one being male or
female), let that one sit on your mind for a little while:)

Gweedo the Mind Killing Pimp!
Message no. 10
From: dbuehrer@******.carl.org dbuehrer@******.carl.org
Subject: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 13:43:04 -0700
Guess what time it is? It's time to start planning the ShadowRN T-shirt,
if we plan on producing one by GenCon 2000.

As the North American producer of the 99 T-shirt, I thought I'd get the
ball rolling and try to get things off to a structured start. All of the
following is IMHO, based on lessons I learned from last year.

The month of March should be spent tossing ideas back and forth, and
potential T-shirt producers should make themselves known.

Durring the first couple of weeks of April artists should develop those
ideas that sparked their creativity and put them up for everyone to see.

All of the proposals should be voted during the middle of April. Last year
the vote took place at the end of May, with orders and checks due by the
end of June, and I was hard pressed to produce the T-shirts on time (I did
it, but it was very stressful).

All of the potential producers should go out and get price quotes by the
end of April.

On May 1st the producers should be selected by a vote of the list members.

Orders and checks should be mailed to the producers by June 1st.

The producers should have the T-shirts produced and mailed by the end of June.

The following are some thoughts I've had since producing the shirt.

Having multiple producers last year worked great, IMHO. I didn't have to
deal with international orders, and the list members in Europe and
Australia actually got their T-shirts in a reasonable amount of time. I
strongly recommend we ask for volunteers in Europe and Australia again.

I don't suggest putting the names of the purchaser's on the back of the
shirt. This seems to create an us/them feeling (and less T-shirt buyers),
and there's always a few people who swear they'll order a shirt, and never
do buy a shirt and this can create more animosity. I think list member
names on the back of the shirt should be all or nothing. And since there's
no way we can legibly cram 400+ names on the back of a shirt, I vote for no
names on the back of the shirt.

I strongly suggest black or white designs/art. Last year's T-shirt only
used one color, but the T-shirt shop had to mix two colors to create that
color, and we were subsequently charged for two colors.

If you are a producer and T-shirt shop shows the slightest sign of techno
cluelesness (they don't know how to resize a .jpg picture) don't walk, run
away.

The T-shirt producer should be allowed to make a bit of profit. Call it a
stress fee. Last year I paid $30 (that's how much I lost on the deal) for
two months of stress. And even though it was high quality stress, I'm not
paying for stress again.

And finally, no one should take it personally if their idea(s) are not
accepted by the rest of the list. Let's try to keep the T-shirt discussion
as friendly as possible this year :)


To Life,
-Graht
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Message no. 11
From: HHackerH@***.com HHackerH@***.com
Subject: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:14:35 EST
In a message dated 3/7/00 3:43:46 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
dbuehrer@******.carl.org writes:

>
> And finally, no one should take it personally if their idea(s) are not
> accepted by the rest of the list. Let's try to keep the T-shirt
discussion
> as friendly as possible this year :)
>
Okay David, you're ball then IMO as well. I will however be looking for the
information I had concerning "Credit Cards" for all producers. No promises,
but if I can find it, I'll send you guys the information you'd need.

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Message no. 12
From: Zebulin Magby zebulingod@*****.com
Subject: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:15:16 -0800 (PST)
<delurk>

I second the vote for a black and white t-shirt, as well, unless we make it a single
primary color (which should alleviate the whole "two-color charge for a single
color"). I won't claim to know anything about producing t-shirts, so I'll remain
silent on that point. For starters, however, I suggest the following:

A webpage available with images of previous years t-shirts so we all have an idea of
what we are talking about. (If there is one already, what is the URL?)

A list of names is right out, are there any other things which _cannot_ be done?

Anything I am forgetting?

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Message no. 13
From: Zebulin Magby zebulingod@*****.com
Subject: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:16:20 -0800 (PST)
Already I thought of something I missed. On the webpage for the previous years
t-shirts, perhaps we could also add their cost so that we know what we can get for
how much. Or would that be too much to ask at this point?

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Message no. 14
From: dbuehrer@******.carl.org dbuehrer@******.carl.org
Subject: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 14:24:25 -0700
Zebulin Magby wrote:
><delurk>
>
>A webpage available with images of previous years t-shirts so we all have
>an idea of
>what we are talking about. (If there is one already, what is the URL?)

Go to the following website. There's a picture of K wearing last year's
shirt on the right.

http://members.aol.com/hhackerh/ROOT/authors.html

That's the best I've got for now.

To Life,
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Message no. 15
From: dbuehrer@******.carl.org dbuehrer@******.carl.org
Subject: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 14:26:20 -0700
And there's quite a few pictures of list members in the 99 ShadowRN T-shirt
at Dvixens GenCon 99 site.

http://shadowrun.html.com/hlair/gcindex.php3

To Life,
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Message no. 16
From: dbuehrer@******.carl.org dbuehrer@******.carl.org
Subject: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 14:30:40 -0700
Zebulin Magby wrote:
>Already I thought of something I missed. On the webpage for the previous years
>t-shirts, perhaps we could also add their cost so that we know what we can
>get for
>how much. Or would that be too much to ask at this point?

It's to much to ask at this point :)

The cost is going to depend on the number of images (front or front &
back), the number of colors required per image, the color/type of the
T-shirt, whoever ends up producing it (I got the T-shirts printed for a
pretty good price, but it was $4-5 more than the 98 shirt).

I suggest just focusing on design/art ideas at this point. After the
design/art and T-shirt color have been selected, then it's up to the
volunteer producers to put in a bid. *Then* we should start talking about
price.

FWIW, the price should be between $10-20.

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Message no. 17
From: Alfredo B Alves dghost@****.com
Subject: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:50:25 -0800
On Tue, 07 Mar 2000 14:30:40 -0700 dbuehrer@******.carl.org writes:
<SNIP>
> I suggest just focusing on design/art ideas at this point.
<SNIP>

Bull in cheerleader garb!

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Message no. 18
From: Hunter griffinhq@****.com
Subject: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 19:04:01 -0500
On Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:50:25 -0800 Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.com>
writes:
> On Tue, 07 Mar 2000 14:30:40 -0700 dbuehrer@******.carl.org writes:
> <SNIP>
> > I suggest just focusing on design/art ideas at this point.
> <SNIP>
>
I WANT LOFWYR ON THE FRONT!

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Message no. 19
From: Starrngr@***.com Starrngr@***.com
Subject: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 19:11:51 EST
In a message dated 3/7/2000 4:05:04 PM Pacific Standard Time,
griffinhq@****.com writes:

> I WANT LOFWYR ON THE FRONT!

I, Personally, am once again nominating the comedic picture of the runners
chasing the kid on the cow, with the phrase "in 2060, only the very rich eat
real meat" or maybe "Will Run for Food". On the back could would be
"Shadow
RN 200" and that shadowrun S everyone liked last year.

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Message no. 20
From: Anders Swenson anders@**********.com
Subject: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 21:04:17 -0800
----- Original Message -----
From: <dbuehrer@******.carl.org>
To: <shadowrn@*********.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: ShadowRN T-shirt


> Zebulin Magby wrote:
> >Already I thought of something I missed. On the webpage for the previous
years
> >t-shirts, perhaps we could also add their cost so that we know what we
can
> >get for
> >how much. Or would that be too much to ask at this point?
>
> It's to much to ask at this point :)
>
> The cost is going to depend on the number of images (front or front &
> back), the number of colors required per image, the color/type of the
> T-shirt, whoever ends up producing it (I got the T-shirts printed for a
> pretty good price, but it was $4-5 more than the 98 shirt).
>
> I suggest just focusing on design/art ideas at this point. After the
> design/art and T-shirt color have been selected, then it's up to the
> volunteer producers to put in a bid. *Then* we should start talking about
> price.
>
> FWIW, the price should be between $10-20.

I'm not rich, but I'd be willing to pay more for a better shirt than just
white on black. --Anders
Message no. 21
From: HHackerH@***.com HHackerH@***.com
Subject: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 01:18:43 EST
In a message dated Tue, 7 Mar 2000 4:25:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dbuehrer@******.carl.org writes:

> >A webpage available with images of previous years t-shirts so we all have
> >an idea of
> >what we are talking about. (If there is one already, what is the URL?)
>
> Go to the following website. There's a picture of K wearing last year's
> shirt on the right.

<SNIP>

Actually, if you go to other locations within the HHH website (ShadowRN link for
instance), you'll find pics of Gencon 99' and several people with the shirt that Dave,
Gurth and LadyJ all supervised. As for images from the previous year ... look at the
"logo" that we've got ShadowRN at the top of the navbar in that area as well.
See the scroll work circle??? That is the shirt front from the previous year.

-Keith

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Message no. 22
From: Lady Jestyr jestyr@*********.html.com
Subject: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 15:54:52 +1000
At 13:43 2000-03-07 -0700, dbuehrer@******.carl.org wrote:
>Guess what time it is? It's time to start planning the ShadowRN T-shirt,
>if we plan on producing one by GenCon 2000.

Well, I haven't caught up with the rest of this discussion yet, and
probably won't for a couple of days, but I hereby volunteer to do the
Australian production run again. It was smooth sailing last year and I
think all the Aussies were happy with the results, so if you want me to do
it again I'm happy to do so.

Lady Jestyr
~ Hell hath no fury like a geek with a whippersnipper ~

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Message no. 23
From: Cullyn cullyn@*********.net.au
Subject: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 17:50:58 +1100
On Wed, 08 Mar 2000 15:54:52 +1000, Lady Jestyr wrote:
>At 13:43 2000-03-07 -0700, dbuehrer@******.carl.org wrote:
>>Guess what time it is? It's time to start planning the ShadowRN T-shirt,
>>if we plan on producing one by GenCon 2000.

>Well, I haven't caught up with the rest of this discussion yet, and
>probably won't for a couple of days, but I hereby volunteer to do the
>Australian production run again. It was smooth sailing last year and I
>think all the Aussies were happy with the results, so if you want me to do
>it again I'm happy to do so.

Lady J did a fantastic job of the shirts last year, and has my vote
for this years run of the australian production.

For my 2c. I'm with Anders on the shirt colour thing. I dont mind
having a shirt that costs me a little more if it gives us a better
shirt. The 99 SRN shirt logo was really well designed, and you can
wear it almost anywhere. I'd think for a few more dollars, allowing
the designer a little more creative license is well worth it.

On another point, at first I was a little peeved about the idea of the
names not going on the back, as I think it is a great idea. However,
if an us/them mentality is what it avoids, I'm cool with that, but on
a vote I'd still say put the names on :>

Thanks for listening.

-Cullyn
Message no. 24
From: Bull bull@***********.com
Subject: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 04:17:26 -0500
At 04:50 PM 3/7/00 -0800, you wrote:
>On Tue, 07 Mar 2000 14:30:40 -0700 dbuehrer@******.carl.org writes:
><SNIP>
>> I suggest just focusing on design/art ideas at this point.
><SNIP>
>
>Bull in cheerleader garb!
>
Bull calmly breaks out the PAC and starts cleaning it... Oooooo... I hope
you're at Gen Con :]

<grin>

Bull
Message no. 25
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:01:31 +0100
According to dbuehrer@******.carl.org, at 13:43 on 7 Mar 00, the word on
the street was...

> I don't suggest putting the names of the purchaser's on the back of the
> shirt. This seems to create an us/them feeling (and less T-shirt buyers),
> and there's always a few people who swear they'll order a shirt, and never
> do buy a shirt and this can create more animosity. I think list member
> names on the back of the shirt should be all or nothing. And since there's
> no way we can legibly cram 400+ names on the back of a shirt, I vote for no
> names on the back of the shirt.

I say we should have the names on the back. The only real reason is
nostalgia, I guess -- you can look at your shirt some time later and think
back to the people who were on the list at the time :)

> I strongly suggest black or white designs/art. Last year's T-shirt only
> used one color, but the T-shirt shop had to mix two colors to create that
> color, and we were subsequently charged for two colors.

This can be avoided by first finding out how they charge for colors, and
then use that to our advantage. The green printing required a white
undercoat, right? So a design that used green and white would have been
possible at no extra cost (like for the '94 and '95 shirts).

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Message no. 26
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:01:31 +0100
According to HHackerH@***.com, at 1:18 on 8 Mar 00, the word on the street
was...

> Actually, if you go to other locations within the HHH website (ShadowRN
> link for instance), you'll find pics of Gencon 99' and several people
> with the shirt that Dave, Gurth and LadyJ all supervised.

Sven de Herdt did last year's shirt, not me. The only list T-shirts I was
actively involved in, were the 1995 shirt (for which I did the design, not
the printing) and the GridSec shirt that Dvixen, David, Marc, and I have.

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Message no. 27
From: Ray Macey macey@***.com.au
Subject: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 00:08:29 +1000
----- Original Message -----
From: Cullyn <cullyn@*********.net.au>
To: <shadowrn@*********.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: ShadowRN T-shirt


> On another point, at first I was a little peeved about the idea of the
> names not going on the back, as I think it is a great idea. However,
> if an us/them mentality is what it avoids, I'm cool with that, but on
> a vote I'd still say put the names on :>

I think that the names definitely have to be there. It's like a high school
graduation shirt. You want it to be something you can look back at etc. As
for the us/them mentality, well that's exactly what it is. The people who
pay for a shirt and the people who don't. It's no good trying to pretend
it's any different :)

NightRain.

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Message no. 28
From: HHackerH@***.com HHackerH@***.com
Subject: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:29:07 EST
In a message dated 3/8/00 5:04:07 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
gurth@******.nl writes:

>
> > Actually, if you go to other locations within the HHH website (ShadowRN
> > link for instance), you'll find pics of Gencon 99' and several people
> > with the shirt that Dave, Gurth and LadyJ all supervised.
>
> Sven de Herdt did last year's shirt, not me. The only list T-shirts I was
> actively involved in, were the 1995 shirt (for which I did the design, not
> the printing) and the GridSec shirt that Dvixen, David, Marc, and I have.

Ah, well that still makes sense if Sven is up to the challenge again this
year. I might go with trying to work out an arrangement with you or him then
towards getting certain European's their shirts this year still (see other
post by me).

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Message no. 29
From: Sven De Herdt Sven.DeHerdt@******.com
Subject: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:55:56 +0100
HHackerH@***.com [mailto:HHackerH@***.com] wrote:

<snip>
>
> Ah, well that still makes sense if Sven is up to the
> challenge again this
> year. I might go with trying to work out an arrangement with
> you or him then
> towards getting certain European's their shirts this year
> still (see other
> post by me).
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> -K

First of all my appologies for the late response, but I was on holiday last
week. Didn't switch to no-mail though, because I didn't want to miss
anything.

I am willing to volunteer again for this years printing, but ONLY if there's
a bit more response from the European listmembers.
Last year I called about 10 printers in my neighbourhood and they all had a
minimum amount to print, mostly started from 21 t-shirts. Since last year I
only received about 16 orders for shirts, I was left with about 5 more
shirts.
It didn't really bother me at the moment, so I don't want to complain about
it. The only thing is that I don't want to be stuck with 5 shirt every
year.

Perhaps we a short compilation could be made of the amount of shirts that
will be ordered?

-Sven :)
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Message no. 30
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:18:34 +0100
According to Sven De Herdt, at 17:55 on 14 Mar 00, the word on the street
was...

> Perhaps we a short compilation could be made of the amount of shirts that
> will be ordered?

Don't forget to halve the number of responses you get to make an estimate
of the number of shirts that will actually be ordered.

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Message no. 31
From: HHackerH@***.com HHackerH@***.com
Subject: ShadowRN T-shirt
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:24:58 EST
In a message dated 3/14/00 12:00:13 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
Sven.DeHerdt@******.com writes:

> First of all my appologies for the late response, but I was on holiday last
> week. Didn't switch to no-mail though, because I didn't want to miss
> anything.

I understand that.

> I am willing to volunteer again for this years printing, but ONLY if
there's
> a bit more response from the European listmembers.
> Last year I called about 10 printers in my neighbourhood and they all had a
> minimum amount to print, mostly started from 21 t-shirts. Since last year
I
> only received about 16 orders for shirts, I was left with about 5 more
> shirts.
> It didn't really bother me at the moment, so I don't want to complain about
> it. The only thing is that I don't want to be stuck with 5 shirt every
> year.

Well Sven, this American is going to likely be ordering 2-3 of 'em from you,
should things go through accordingly. They are for someone who's shirts I
sent a couple years back (twice) never made it to him.

> Perhaps we a short compilation could be made of the amount of shirts that
> will be ordered?

NOT YET!!! Let's get the art straightened our first please.!!!! ;-)

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-K
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