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Message no. 1
From: rothgefa@*******.com (Robert Fanning)
Subject: Shadowrun 3 or 4?
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:43:08 +1000
What it boils down for me is that I shelled out a lot of money for the SR3
Core Rulebooks, which were badly proofread and had spines that came apart a
week after I got them.

There is no way in Hades that I am ever going to play 4th edition unless
some other player buys them, OR I get some kind of factory exchange for my
3rd edition rulebooks and get the new books at cost.

It will take me a lot of convincing to part with the kind of money for the
new books.

Also, what is this about Edge mentioned in 4th edition? Are they poaching
stuff from Mechwarrior RPG?


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Message no. 2
From: maxnoel_fr@*****.fr (Max Noel)
Subject: Shadowrun 3 or 4?
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:11:40 +0100
On 14 Dec 2005, at 00:43, Robert Fanning wrote:

> Also, what is this about Edge mentioned in 4th edition? Are they
> poaching stuff from Mechwarrior RPG?

I don't really know about Mechwarrior, but SR4's Edge is basically
WoD's Willpower mixed with classic SR's Karma Pool. With some
tweaking (mostly, altering the refreshing mechanism), you can also
turn it into a universal tactical pool.

-- Wild_Cat





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Message no. 3
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: Shadowrun 3 or 4?
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:30:43 +0100
According to Robert Fanning, on 14-12-05 00:43 the word on the street was...

> Also, what is this about Edge mentioned in 4th edition? Are they
> poaching stuff from Mechwarrior RPG?

The name, maybe :) It's bascically Karma Pool but with a few different uses.

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Message no. 4
From: l-hansen@*****.tele.dk (Lars Wagner Hansen)
Subject: Shadowrun 3 or 4?
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:59:42 +0100
From: "Robert Fanning" <rothgefa@*******.com>
>
> There is no way in Hades that I am ever going to play 4th edition unless
> some other player buys them, OR I get some kind of factory exchange for my
> 3rd edition rulebooks and get the new books at cost.

So I guess you are still using your old MS-DOS 3.0, and you wil never
change, unless they give you a refund for you old OS.

> It will take me a lot of convincing to part with the kind of money for the
> new books.

I felt the same way about WH40K. I played a lot under 2nd edition rules, but
simpley didn't like what I saw in the new rules. I quit the game, and have
never regretted since.

Lars
Message no. 5
From: scott@**********.com (Scott Harrison)
Subject: Shadowrun 3 or 4?
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:05:26 -0500
On Dec 16, 2005, at 14:59, Lars Wagner Hansen wrote:

> From: "Robert Fanning" <rothgefa@*******.com>
>>
>> There is no way in Hades that I am ever going to play 4th edition
>> unless some other player buys them, OR I get some kind of factory
>> exchange for my 3rd edition rulebooks and get the new books at cost.
>
> So I guess you are still using your old MS-DOS 3.0, and you wil
> never change, unless they give you a refund for you old OS.
>

If you are using Windows you probably still are using DOS from that
day and age! :-) And if you are using Windows I imagine you should
ask for a refund.

--
·𐑕𐑒𐑪𐑑
·𐑣𐑺𐑦𐑕𐑩𐑯 Scott
Harrison
Message no. 6
From: marc.renouf@******.com (Renouf, Marc A.)
Subject: Shadowrun 3 or 4?
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:20:42 -0500
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shadowrn-bounces@*****.dumpshock.com
> [mailto:shadowrn-bounces@*****.dumpshock.com] On Behalf Of
> Lars Wagner Hansen
>
> > It will take me a lot of convincing to part with the kind
> of money for
> > the new books.
>
> I felt the same way about WH40K. I played a lot under 2nd
> edition rules, but simpley didn't like what I saw in the new
> rules. I quit the game, and have never regretted since.

That's a shame, because 3rd and 4th Edition WH40K are better
games than 2nd edition 40K. The number of egregious "rules exceptions"
has been trimmed way back, and heroes and force commanders are no longer
capable of laying waste to entire armies single-handedly. It's also a
hell of a lot faster to play. My only gripe is the AP mechanic.

Marc
Message no. 7
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: Shadowrun 3 or 4?
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:06:37 +0100
According to Renouf, Marc A., on 16-12-05 22:20 the word on the street
was...

> That's a shame, because 3rd and 4th Edition WH40K are better
> games than 2nd edition 40K. The number of egregious "rules exceptions"
> has been trimmed way back

Playing 40K always makes me wish GW were FASA, as far as game rules are
concerned anyway ...

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Gurth@******.nl - Stone Age: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
Please do not read the lyrics whilst listening to the recordings.
-> Former NAGEE Editor & ShadowRN GridSec * Triangle Virtuoso <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Site: http://plastic.dumpshock.com <-

GC3.12: GAT/! d- s:- !a>? C++(---) UB+ P(+) L++ E W++(--) N o? K w-- O
M+ PS+ PE@ Y PGP- t- 5++ X(+) R+++$ tv+(++) b++@ DI- D G+ e h! !r y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998

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