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Message no. 1
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Achille Autran)
Subject: Shadowrun CD
Date: Thu Feb 28 06:20:01 2002
>From: Shadowrun Info <info@************.com>
>
>Ok, that leads us to the next question. Which would you rather see more:
>a) the core rulebooks on CD, or
>b) out of print sourcebooks on CD (and if so, which ones)?

b) would be the most interesting, and as far as I know what people are
looking for the most.

Of course, all the books would be very neat, but it's probably impractical
economics-wise. If a selection has to be made, I'd like to see books that
won't be updated in the foreseable future, or provide greater details on a
location than what will be seen in future books like Shadows of North
America, Shadows of Europe or an hypothetic 6th World Almanac.

Off the top of my head, this would include: both Paranormal Animals,
Shadowbeat, Corporate Shadowfiles, Lone Star, Bug City, Threats, Portfolio
of a Dragon, Cyberpirates for the 71xx, all 72xx up to Target: UCAS except
both NANs, Neo-Anarchist Guide to NA (books not really satisfying IMO) and
the Seattle Sourcebook. For adventures, the old landmarks would be neat:
Harlequin, the bugs trilogy (Queen Euphoria, Universal Brotherhood, Double
Exposure,) Mercurial, maybe Bottled Demon and Dragon Hunt so that even new
players will learn to love to hate the infamous Blackwing - and GMs will
learn to hate to love him. Super Tuesday, Shadows of the Underworld, Mob
War, Blood in the Boardroom and Renraku Arcology: Shutdown would be nice as
well to wrap up loose plotlines.

Another way to go could be 3 CDs, the Great Shadowrun CD-ROMs of the 71xx,
72xx and 73xx... Err, for people who don't know all books reference by
heart, let's say Shadowrun Game CD-ROM, Shadowrun World CD-ROM and
Shadowrun Adventures CD-ROM. Each one going around $20-25 would be much
more palatable for roleplayers who are not used to shell out more than
$30-35 at once, usually for a rulebook. It would be a bit mean to split the
three most sought-after books (according to casual observation of eBay:
Portfolio of a Dragon, Universal Brotherhood and Harlequin) over three
CD-ROM, but that's also what people call business savvy...

As for content itself, I believe plain PDFs would be fine and anything
fancier like a custom interface, building a cross-book index (unless
Wordman picks up the glove ;-)), or rearranging chapters between books
would be too costly for such a product. Something very cool however would
be a plain ASCII dump of the whole text of ALL the books on a CD in a
SINGLE file, which would make global searches and editing easy tasks, two
features that would make such CD-ROM(s) valuable even for people who
possess a complete or close-to-complete collection.

Well, that's an already long message. Hope it makes sense...

Achille / Molloy
Message no. 2
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Ice Heart)
Subject: Shadowrun CD
Date: Thu Feb 28 13:20:01 2002
>From: Achille Autran <aautran@****.fr>


<SNIP>
>maybe Bottled Demon and Dragon Hunt so that even new
>players will learn to love to hate the infamous Blackwing - and GMs >will
>learn to hate to love him.

LOL....good old Blacky :D

>Another way to go could be 3 CDs, the Great Shadowrun CD-ROMs of the >71xx,
>72xx and 73xx... Err, for people who don't know all books >reference by
>heart, let's say Shadowrun Game CD-ROM, Shadowrun World >CD-ROM and
>Shadowrun Adventures CD-ROM. Each one going around $20-25 >would be much
>more palatable for roleplayers who are not used to shell >out more than
>$30-35 at once, usually for a rulebook. It would be a >bit mean to split
>the three most sought-after books (according to >casual observation of
>eBay: Portfolio of a Dragon, Universal >Brotherhood and Harlequin) over
>three CD-ROM, but that's also what >people call business savvy...

This is exactly what I suggested, only worded about 100 times better. And
splitting up UB, PoaD, and the infamous H is perfect. It pretty well
garauntees that all three Cds would have selling power beyond the
"collectors" and "completists". I would pay $20 to $25 dollars per CD
quite
willingly. I doubt I am alone on that. You could release the CDs with
extra info and advertising in the jacket to increase selling power as well.
Future product releases, laid out in "shadowtalk" format much as FASA did in
the front of a lot of later SR2 books, that sort of thing. Spoilers from
upcoming novels and sourcebooks is another way to increase sales. The
release date of the 3 CDs could be spaced over 6 months or so, allowing
people with cash flow problems to budget their purchases.

Korishinzo
--firmly in the "B" camp, OOP stuff first, core rules later :)

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Message no. 3
From: dandrews67@*****.com (Donald Andrews)
Subject: Shadowrun CD
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 04:34:10 -0700 (PDT)
Does anyone know where I can find a copy of the
Shadowrun CD that was put out by thelonelymountain.com
several years ago?




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Message no. 4
From: milliken@*********.on.net (Damion Milliken)
Subject: Shadowrun CD
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 21:47:32 +1000
Donald Andrews writes:

> Does anyone know where I can find a copy of the
> Shadowrun CD that was put out by thelonelymountain.com
> several years ago?

They're very difficult to find. I've had an automatic nightly search on eBay for the last
12 months or so, and none have even come up on there, let alone anywhere new (I've had a
number of gaming shops looking for it for over two years now as well). You might as well
get a copy off WinMX/Kazaa/eMule/etc/etc, as you're not going to find a real one I
suspect.

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Message no. 5
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: Shadowrun CD
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 13:44:14 +0200
According to Donald Andrews, on Tuesday 17 August 2004 13:34 the word on
the street was...

> Does anyone know where I can find a copy of the
> Shadowrun CD that was put out by thelonelymountain.com
> several years ago?

I don't know where to get a copy (I bought mine straight from TLM in '99,
but the store is now out of business) but you may be able to order it at a
record store? The booklet says the artist is Alex Cremers, it was
published by MFG, the copyright is owned by Orion Design Studio, and the
product number is ORCD 001. There is no barcode, however, which leads me
to think there may not be an ISBN or similar standardized number for it.

--
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"Als ik efficiënt wilde zijn dan nam ik om te beginnen niet eens
de moeite om vandaag aanwezig te zijn" --G. de Vader
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Message no. 6
From: zebulingod@*******.net (zebulingod@*******.net)
Subject: Shadowrun CD
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 07:34:19 -0700
Gurth wrote:
> According to Donald Andrews, on Tuesday 17 August 2004 13:34
> the word on the street was...
>
> > Does anyone know where I can find a copy of the Shadowrun
> CD that was
> > put out by thelonelymountain.com several years ago?
>
> I don't know where to get a copy (I bought mine straight from
> TLM in '99, but the store is now out of business) but you may
> be able to order it at a record store? The booklet says the
> artist is Alex Cremers, it was published by MFG, the
> copyright is owned by Orion Design Studio, and the product
> number is ORCD 001. There is no barcode, however, which leads
> me to think there may not be an ISBN or similar standardized
> number for it.
>

Is that what the music by Alex Cremers is from? Hmm... Well that makes
sense. I seem to recall being able to download it from a website some time
ago, but I don't recall when or where.

Zebulin

"Per Ardua ad Astra"
Message no. 7
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: Shadowrun CD
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 19:25:47 +0200
According to zebulingod@*******.net, on Tuesday 17 August 2004 16:34 the
word on the street was...

> Is that what the music by Alex Cremers is from? Hmm... Well that makes
> sense.

It is, unless of course he also made other tracks that didn't end up on the
CD I bought :)

--
Gurth@******.nl - Stone Age: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
"Als ik efficiënt wilde zijn dan nam ik om te beginnen niet eens
de moeite om vandaag aanwezig te zijn" --G. de Vader
-> Possibly NAGEE Editor & ShadowRN GridSec * Triangle Virtuoso <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://plastic.dumpshock.com <-

GC3.12: GAT/! d- s:- !a>? C++(---) UL+ P(+) L++ E W--(++) N o? K w(--)
O V? PS+ PE@ Y PGP- t- 5++ X(+) R+++$ tv+(++) b++@ DI- D+ G+ e h! !r y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998

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