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Message no. 1
From: datwinkdaddy@*****.com (Da Twink Daddy)
Subject: Shadowrun Computer Game Rights (was: Re: SR4 will time-traveling
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 19:19:43 -0400
Quoting Adam Jury <adam@************.com>:

> On 16-May-05, at 3:51 PM, Mark S wrote:
>
> > 4) What happens if I write a free game and distribute it?
>
> 4) Probably nothing.

[Of course, IANAL]

Even if nothing happens initially, you are on bad legal ground. Of course,
nothing will happen until Microsoft notices your game, one once they do they
could probably do any of the following:

* If the game is bad, bring civil suit for hurting the value of their IP.
* If the game is good, sue to take it, or at least shut it down so they don't
have to compete with it (whether or not they intend to produce their own game)
* If the game is new, sue to shut the game down to show they can enforce their
IP. [Some IP, like trademarks requires enforcement to be valid.]

That said, their are a few MuSHes out there that are shadowrun (in specific, not
just general CP) oriented and I don't think MS has trounced on them yet.

I'm just saying that, for me, the risks involved in putting much time into a
shadowrun oriented console/computer/web game without blessing from Microsoft are
not worth any reward I can imagine getting.

--
Da Twink Daddy
DaTwinkDaddy@*****.com
datwinkdaddy.dyndns.org

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Message no. 2
From: maxnoel_fr@*****.fr (Max Noel)
Subject: Shadowrun Computer Game Rights (was: Re: SR4 will time-traveling
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 00:27:18 +0100
On May 17, 2005, at 00:19, Da Twink Daddy wrote:

> That said, their are a few MuSHes out there that are shadowrun (in
> specific, not
> just general CP) oriented and I don't think MS has trounced on them
> yet.
>

Then again, somehow I think Microsoft doesn't worry too much
about competing with text-based games. It's not like those are gonna
make the Xbox 360 version pale in comparison, is it? :D

-- Wild_Cat
maxnoel_fr at yahoo dot fr -- ICQ #85274019
"Look at you hacker... A pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting
and sweating as you run through my corridors... How can you challenge
a perfect, immortal machine?"
Message no. 3
From: pentaj2@********.edu (John C. Penta)
Subject: Shadowrun Computer Game Rights (was: Re: SR4 will time-traveling
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:35:41 -0400
----- Original Message -----
From: Max Noel <maxnoel_fr@*****.fr>
Date: Monday, May 16, 2005 7:27 pm
Subject: Re: Shadowrun Computer Game Rights (was: Re: SR4 will time-traveling immortal
miniature troll ninjas!)

>
> On May 17, 2005, at 00:19, Da Twink Daddy wrote:
>
> > That said, their are a few MuSHes out there that are shadowrun
> (in
> > specific, not
> > just general CP) oriented and I don't think MS has trounced on
> them
> > yet.
> >
>
> Then again, somehow I think Microsoft doesn't worry too much
> about competing with text-based games. It's not like those are
> gonna
> make the Xbox 360 version pale in comparison, is it? :D

Agreed. Also, Shadowrun Seattle MUSH says occasionally they've permission from WizKids,
but I've no idea of the truth of the statement.

John
(Penta@ SR Seattle MUSH)

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