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Message no. 1
From: Sebastian Wiers <seb@***.RIPCO.COM>
Subject: Re: shadowrun => earthdawn/ races
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 12:40:07 -0500
>
> has anyone got any ideas for the stats an obsidiman or tskrang would
> have in shadowrun.as this could be an interesting idea as at the
> moment the horrors are about to appear.
> in the european creatures book there are references to sprites or
> windlings from earthdawn. so why not the obsidiman.
>
Well, I'm no expert, but the races in SR are subtly different from those in
ED. Obviously, there are cultural differences, and environmental; that could
count for a lot.
But in general, trolls and orks are like feral versions of those in ED (not
all, not always, but generally and to some extent)

The environments and origens for the obsidemen and Tskrang are even more
polluted than most others- Not much clean water or undeveloped land left.
Maybe in some areas, after the completion of certain projects, a few of these
relatively rare types might surface.
Do you really want that? Obsidiman may be slow, but they are staunch
protectors of the land and nearly imortal, each and every one, not like just a
few elves! Ts'krang in SR seems, well, silly. Might make an intersting
Creature, though- devolved, feral Ts'krang living in your typical large river
full of pollutants.
Message no. 2
From: Craig S Dohmen <dohmen@*******.CSE.PSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: shadowrun => earthdawn/ races
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 18:41:49 -0400
On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Sebastian Wiers wrote:

> few elves! Ts'krang in SR seems, well, silly. Might make an intersting

I dunno, T'skrang would probably have a blast. Hang gliders, bungee
jumping, sky diving, trick motorcycle riding (might be good Combat
Bikers), rock climbing. They would probably love jet skis. :)

--Craig
Message no. 3
From: "John W. Carter" <scarterjw@****.TRISTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: shadowrun => earthdawn/ races
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 19:14:15 -0500
>On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Sebastian Wiers wrote:
>
>> few elves! Ts'krang in SR seems, well, silly. Might make an intersting
>
>I dunno, T'skrang would probably have a blast. Hang gliders, bungee
>jumping, sky diving, trick motorcycle riding (might be good Combat
>Bikers), rock climbing. They would probably love jet skis. :)
>
>--Craig

1) Remember though: the t'skrang aspect of jik'harro (bravado) is cultural
in nautre, not instinctual (if I remember correctly, t'skrang have an innate
fear of heights).

2) I think there ARE t'skrang running around in the 6th, brought from the
ether of time prematurely thanks to the GGD. (thank the indians, kids)

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Message no. 4
From: Jani Fikouras <feanor@**********.UNI-BREMEN.DE>
Subject: Re: shadowrun => earthdawn/ races
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 16:23:14 +0100
John W. Carter wrote:
> 1) Remember though: the t'skrang aspect of jik'harro (bravado) is cultural
> in nautre, not instinctual (if I remember correctly, t'skrang have an innate
> fear of heights).

This is very true, take Trolls for example in SR they have a max charisma
of 4 which is nearly the average value for a human. This is purely because
of the social status Trolls enjoy in the society of 205x. In ED Trolls do
not suffer any charisma penalties, they are considered one of the noblest
races.
As for the T'skrang's fear of heights well I dont think so. They do
jump from one mast to the other all the time after all dont they ?

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Message no. 5
From: "John W. Carter" <scarterjw@****.TRISTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: shadowrun => earthdawn/ races
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 14:09:12 -0500
>> 1) Remember though: the t'skrang aspect of jik'harro (bravado) is cultural
>> in nautre, not instinctual (if I remember correctly, t'skrang have an innate
>> fear of heights).
>
> This is very true, take Trolls for example in SR they have a max charisma
>of 4 which is nearly the average value for a human. This is purely because
>of the social status Trolls enjoy in the society of 205x. In ED Trolls do
>not suffer any charisma penalties, they are considered one of the noblest
>races.
> As for the T'skrang's fear of heights well I dont think so. They do
>jump from one mast to the other all the time after all dont they ?

Read Denizens of ED 1. The t'skrang do have an innate fear of heights.
their concept of jik'harro means facing their fears head-on. Which is why
most t'skrang are swinging on ropes and vines by the time they are 3 or 4.

...but enough about (my personal fave race of) ED...

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| SCarterJW@****.tristate.edu | comedian? |
|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|Dr. Bob: Yes, but that was before he fell |
| Card-carrying member of: | into a vat of molten optical |
| The Reptile Sucks | glass. |
| Fan Club |Janice: What did he do? |
| (UMK3, Terms) |Dr. Bob: He made a spectacle of himself! |
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