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Message no. 1
From: st0023kr@***.net (st0023kr)
Subject: Shadowrun Magazines
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 16:43:37 -0500
Here is a question for this list.

I have been a player of shadowrun for a long time now.

I have collected a large amout of shadowrun items over the years.

Is it true that there is a company publishing in Germany a Shadowrun
Magazine?

If so how long has this company been publishing it. Since Second, third or
Now Forth edition?



Also is it me or is there no more shadowrun sites up that support Fourth
Edition?

I love this game I just can't seem to find any new or somewhat new fan
support Shadowrun.

Any web sites that support 4th edition. is wanted.



Thanks and remember in a fire fight if your guns are in range so are there
guns.
Message no. 2
From: graht1@*****.com (Graht)
Subject: Shadowrun Magazines
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 16:55:32 -0600
On 4/6/07, st0023kr <st0023kr@***.net> wrote:
>
> Also is it me or is there no more shadowrun sites up that support Fourth
> Edition?
>
> I love this game I just can't seem to find any new or somewhat new fan
> support Shadowrun.
>
> Any web sites that support 4th edition. is wanted.

www.dumpshock.com should be chock full of 4th edition stuff.

--
-Graht
Message no. 3
From: bulletraven@***********.com (Peter Mellett)
Subject: Shadowrun Magazines
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 01:43:13 +0100
Graht wrote:
> On 4/6/07, st0023kr <st0023kr@***.net> wrote:
>>
>> Also is it me or is there no more shadowrun sites up that support Fourth
>> Edition?
>>
>> I love this game I just can't seem to find any new or somewhat new fan
>> support Shadowrun.
>>
>> Any web sites that support 4th edition. is wanted.
>
> www.dumpshock.com should be chock full of 4th edition stuff.
>
Unfortunately apart from this most Shadowrun sites are from 2nd edition
and the authors are long gone into Real Life.

However dumpshock is pretty good.
Message no. 4
From: n.kobschaetzki@**********.com (Niels_KobschÀtzki)
Subject: Shadowrun Magazines
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 07:20:48 +0200
On Apr 6, 2007, at 11:43 PM, st0023kr wrote:

> Here is a question for this list.
>
> I have been a player of shadowrun for a long time now.
>
> I have collected a large amout of shadowrun items over the years.
>
> Is it true that there is a company publishing in Germany a Shadowrun
> Magazine?

nope

> If so how long has this company been publishing it. Since Second,
> third or
> Now Forth edition?

There was as far as I can remember never such a magazine (and I play
SR since 1st edition)

> Also is it me or is there no more shadowrun sites up that support
> Fourth
> Edition?

hard to find

> I love this game I just can't seem to find any new or somewhat new fan
> support Shadowrun.

Your way to go to earn fame and honor in the community ;)

> Any web sites that support 4th edition. is wanted.

www.dumpshock.com has stuff

> Thanks and remember in a fire fight if your guns are in range so
> are there
> guns.

What are firefights? Didn't you plan the run properly? ;)

Niels



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Message no. 5
From: cmdjackryan@**********.com (Phillip Gawlowski)
Subject: Shadowrun Magazines
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 08:01:49 +0200
Niels Kobschätzki wrote:
> On Apr 6, 2007, at 11:43 PM, st0023kr wrote:
>
>> Here is a question for this list.
>>
>> I have been a player of shadowrun for a long time now.
>>
>> I have collected a large amout of shadowrun items over the years.
>>
>> Is it true that there is a company publishing in Germany a Shadowrun
>> Magazine?
>
> nope

You are both wrong. ;)

There was, until 1999, the WunderWelten[0], FanPro's in-house magazine,
covering all RPGs in their portfolio, which includes Shadowrun.

Proteus, for example, made its first appearance in a WuWe
adventure/supplement, as well as equipment (including 3rd Edition stuff,
prices in Euros ;)


[0] http://www.fanpro.com/wuwe/wuweold.htm (website in German)

--
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Rule of Open-Source Programming #6:

The user is always right unless proven otherwise by the developer.
Message no. 6
From: n.kobschaetzki@**********.com (Niels_KobschÀtzki)
Subject: Shadowrun Magazines
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 08:02:17 +0200
On Apr 7, 2007, at 8:01 AM, Phillip Gawlowski wrote:

> Niels Kobschätzki wrote:
>> On Apr 6, 2007, at 11:43 PM, st0023kr wrote:
>>> Here is a question for this list.
>>>
>>> I have been a player of shadowrun for a long time now.
>>>
>>> I have collected a large amout of shadowrun items over the years.
>>>
>>> Is it true that there is a company publishing in Germany a Shadowrun
>>> Magazine?
>> nope
>
> You are both wrong. ;)
>
> There was, until 1999, the WunderWelten[0], FanPro's in-house
> magazine, covering all RPGs in their portfolio, which includes
> Shadowrun.
>
> Proteus, for example, made its first appearance in a WuWe adventure/
> supplement, as well as equipment (including 3rd Edition stuff,
> prices in Euros ;)

oh yeah - i forgot about that

Niels



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Message no. 7
From: cmdjackryan@**********.com (Phillip Gawlowski)
Subject: Shadowrun Magazines
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 08:18:56 +0200
Niels Kobschätzki wrote:

>> There was, until 1999, the WunderWelten[0], FanPro's in-house
>> magazine, covering all RPGs in their portfolio, which includes Shadowrun.
>>
>> Proteus, for example, made its first appearance in a WuWe
>> adventure/supplement, as well as equipment (including 3rd Edition
>> stuff, prices in Euros ;)
>
> oh yeah - i forgot about that

Well, it's *been* a while, and the WuWe never reached as much
circulation as the community of DSA, Battletech, and Shadowrun would
have allowed, for better or worse.

--
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http://cynicalryan.110mb.com/

Eek! That was supposed to be My Special Law, _MY_ special law, I tell
you!

T/
Message no. 8
From: n.kobschaetzki@**********.com (Niels_KobschÀtzki)
Subject: Shadowrun Magazines
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 08:23:34 +0200
On Apr 7, 2007, at 8:18 AM, Phillip Gawlowski wrote:

> Niels Kobschätzki wrote:
>
>>> There was, until 1999, the WunderWelten[0], FanPro's in-house
>>> magazine, covering all RPGs in their portfolio, which includes
>>> Shadowrun.
>>>
>>> Proteus, for example, made its first appearance in a WuWe
>>> adventure/supplement, as well as equipment (including 3rd Edition
>>> stuff, prices in Euros ;)
>> oh yeah - i forgot about that
>
> Well, it's *been* a while, and the WuWe never reached as much
> circulation as the community of DSA, Battletech, and Shadowrun
> would have allowed, for better or worse.

I remember that I had only some issues, that it was rather expensive
(like all magazines of this kind imho because of the low print run I
guess) and that the material was mainly adventures (and even back
then I bought never books with runs) but no other real interesting
material for Shadowrun. Therefore it was better relying on the
internet with sites like blackjack or the dumpshock-columns which
gave useful tips for gamemastering and new material and not new runs.

Niels


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Message no. 9
From: jeremie.bouillon@****.fr (Jérémie_Bouillon)
Subject: Shadowrun Magazines
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 08:27:19 +0200
st0023kr wrote:
> Any web sites that support 4th edition. is wanted.

In what languages? In English it's mostly Dumpshock, in French you have
http://shadowrun.fr, in German and Polski several ones, etc.
Message no. 10
From: cmdjackryan@**********.com (Phillip Gawlowski)
Subject: Shadowrun Magazines
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 08:37:49 +0200
Niels Kobschätzki wrote:

> I remember that I had only some issues, that it was rather expensive
> (like all magazines of this kind imho because of the low print run I
> guess) and that the material was mainly adventures (and even back then I
> bought never books with runs) but no other real interesting material for
> Shadowrun. Therefore it was better relying on the internet with sites
> like blackjack or the dumpshock-columns which gave useful tips for
> gamemastering and new material and not new runs.

yeah. To me, it seemed more like elaborate advertising, rather than a
useful addition. I'd still like to see something like the "Aventurischer
Bote" for Shadowrun: A more or less regular, completely in character
newspaper.

Maybe this could done with members from this list? The technology is
there, and if somebody would donate web space, I could, probably,
prototype something like that (at least in the tech area, not so much in
the design area).

--
Phillip "CynicalRyan" Gawlowski
http://cynicalryan.110mb.com/

Rule of Open-Source Programming #1:

Don't whine unless you are going to implement it yourself.
Message no. 11
From: jeremie.bouillon@****.fr (Jérémie_Bouillon)
Subject: Shadowrun Magazines
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 09:32:56 +0200
Phillip Gawlowski wrote:
> Maybe this could done with members from this list? The technology is
> there, and if somebody would donate web space, I could, probably,
> prototype something like that (at least in the tech area, not so much in
> the design area).

If you've got the team, I've got the gear.

Yup, I can give web space, although based in Western Europe.
Message no. 12
From: cmdjackryan@**********.com (Phillip Gawlowski)
Subject: Shadowrun Magazines
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 10:32:40 +0200
Jérémie Bouillon wrote:

> If you've got the team, I've got the gear.

Well, if there are any volunteers, feel free to contact me.

I'll write something more eye-catching after Easter.


> Yup, I can give web space, although based in Western Europe.

Great! :)

--
Phillip "CynicalRyan" Gawlowski
http://cynicalryan.110mb.com/

Rule of Open-Source Programming #37:

Duplicate effort is inevitable. Live with it.
Message no. 13
From: derek@***************.com (Derek Hyde)
Subject: Shadowrun Magazines
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 23:31:07 -0500
> Maybe this could done with members from this list? The technology is
> there, and if somebody would donate web space, I could, probably,
> prototype something like that (at least in the tech area, not so much in
> the design area).
>
I've got plenty of space, and bandwidth.....oh....and the domain
shadowrungamers.com (as well as gamers-nest.net) and would be willing to
share for a project of this nature....
Message no. 14
From: jjvanp@*****.com (Jan Jaap van Poelgeest)
Subject: Shadowrun Magazines
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 10:18:37 -0700 (PDT)
This thread had me thinking about the english-language
shadowrun magazine that ran for some time. For some
reason I can't remember the name (Gurth?).

In any case, is there any possibility of putting these
online as PDFs? What would be the copyright issues
involved, could the original publisher be contacted
and asked whether they can be released into the public
domain, or at least be turned into a pay-for-download
document?

cheers,

Jan Jaap





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Message no. 15
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: Shadowrun Magazines
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 19:27:36 +0200
According to Jan Jaap van Poelgeest, on 9-4-07 19:18 the word on the
street was...

> This thread had me thinking about the english-language
> shadowrun magazine that ran for some time. For some
> reason I can't remember the name (Gurth?).

If you mean the hardcopy magazine, you could be talking about either
Ka*Ge or Shadowland. Ka*ge had 13 issues, off the top of my head, and
Shadowland had 7.

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Message no. 16
From: l-hansen@*****.tele.dk (Lars Wagner Hansen)
Subject: Shadowrun Magazines
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 19:39:21 +0200
From: "Jan Jaap van Poelgeest" <jjvanp@*****.com>
> This thread had me thinking about the english-language
> shadowrun magazine that ran for some time. For some
> reason I can't remember the name (Gurth?).

Gurth is right about the names and issues.

> In any case, is there any possibility of putting these
> online as PDFs? What would be the copyright issues
> involved, could the original publisher be contacted
> and asked whether they can be released into the public
> domain, or at least be turned into a pay-for-download
> document?

WizKids has the copyright on Ka*Ge, but I don't know about Shadowland.

I'm sure Adam knows.

Lars
Message no. 17
From: weberm@*******.net (Michael Weber)
Subject: Shadowrun Magazines
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 13:39:31 -0400
From: Jan Jaap van Poelgeest <jjvanp@*****.com>

>This thread had me thinking about the english-language
>shadowrun magazine that ran for some time. For some
>reason I can't remember the name (Gurth?).

Ka-Ge?

>In any case, is there any possibility of putting these
>online as PDFs? What would be the copyright issues
>involved, could the original publisher be contacted
>and asked whether they can be released into the public
>domain, or at least be turned into a pay-for-download
>document?

That would be awesome! I have a couple already in that format
somewhere.

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