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Message no. 1
From: Nightfox <DJWA@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 19:20:29 -0700
just a few good singles, I have many more ideas


The Needle Lies - Operation Mindcrime by Queensrych (BTL!!!)
Empire - Empire by Queensrych
Who wants to live forever - A kind of Magic by Queen
Welcome to the Jungle - Appetite for Destruction by G-n-R
Sunday, bloody Sunday - U2
Black 47 - fires of Freedom by Black 47
Dominion / Mother Russia - Sisters of Mercy
This Corrosion - Sisters of Mercy
Message no. 2
From: Shadowdancer <BRIDDLE@*****.VINU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Shadowrun Music
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 21:19:57 EST
Nightfox writes:

> The Needle Lies - Operation Mindcrime by Queensrych (BTL!!!)
> Empire - Empire by Queensrych
> Who wants to live forever - A kind of Magic by Queen
> Welcome to the Jungle - Appetite for Destruction by G-n-R
> Sunday, bloody Sunday - U2
> Black 47 - fires of Freedom by Black 47
> Dominion / Mother Russia - Sisters of Mercy
> This Corrosion - Sisters of Mercy
>
You forgot some others:
Gimme the Prize-A Kind of Magic by Queen
Princes of the Universe-same soundtrack
(Already used in a movie, but good for a Dragon or Corp{former}
a really good [or really egotistical] runner band{latter}
Five Magicks-Rust in Peace...Polaris by Megadeth(mages unite!!)
Master of Puppets-Master of Puppets by Metallica(more BTL)
Just about anything on ...And Justice for All(the whole oppression
thing)
Ain't it fun-The Spegetti Incident? by G-n-R (have not heard original)
Paranoid-Paranoid by Black Sabbath ( 0 essance sammies)


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Message no. 3
From: "Wesley W. Walker" <wwalker@****.UARK.EDU>
Subject: Re: Shadowrun Music
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 10:02:25 -0600
Hey, how about...

Jesus Built My Hot Rod - Ministry
Feel the Fury - NRG from LIMIT 180 beats per minute

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Message no. 4
From: Nightfox <DJWA@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Shadowrun Music
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 11:15:26 -0700
>You forgot some others:
>Gimme the Prize-A Kind of Magic by Queen
>Princes of the Universe-same soundtrack

Not really, you just cut off the part that said

"Here are a few singles that a good for Shadowrun"

As in - I really didn't want to list everything.

also a good one Phantom Of the Opera from Phantom of the Opera (the heavy
instrumental part)

Nightfox
Message no. 5
From: Malcalypse The Younger <shadow@******.NET>
Subject: Re: Shadowrun Music
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 21:54:47 -0500
On Sun, 6 Nov 1994, Nightfox wrote:

> Dominion / Mother Russia - Sisters of Mercy
> This Corrosion - Sisters of Mercy

Some other Sister's:

Alice
Temple of Love
Lucretia my Reflection

Others:
Kooler than Jesus - My life with the Thrill Kill Kult
Nervous Xtians - My life with the Thrill Kill Kult
Golgotha Tenement Blues - Machines of Loving Grace (From the Crow CD)
Burn - The Cure (Also from the Crow)
Message no. 6
From: Shadowdancer <BRIDDLE@*****.VINU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Shadowrun Music
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 22:52:07 EST
Nightfox writes:

> Not really, you just cut off the part that said
>
> "Here are a few singles that a good for Shadowrun"
>
> As in - I really didn't want to list everything.
I was not refering to everything. Just thought that these songs would
make wiz themes.
Message no. 7
From: Adam Wise <dwise@****.state.il.us>
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 08:39:35 -0500
Hoi everybody,

I just found the perfect bit of music to add that particular "ambience" to
any Shadowrun gaming session. ;)

The song is "Hurry Down Doomsday (The Bugs Are Taking Over)" by Elvis
Costello. It even has a nice dark feel to it.

I can just see myself at some gaming session. The players walk in and this
song is endlessy repeating softly in the background. Sitting on top of my
pile of sourcebooks and other GMing stuff is the Bug City sourcebook.

Players: Look at book, look at odd grin on my face and gleam in my eye
"Hey Adam, what are you going to do to us?" "I really hope you're not
intending on sending us to Chicago." The words to the music finally hit
them. "OH NO, HE'S SERIOUS!!! RUNRUNRUNRUNRUN!" Players scramble for the exits.

Me: "MWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA". Wait till they've left. "My, that was
fun". Calling after players running across corn field. "Good game guys.
Do it again next week?"
Later,

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Message no. 8
From: Michael Orion Jackson <orion@****.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 21:10:45 -0600
Well, since this seems to be Nostalgia Month (SR movie, mages vs. shamans,
etc), I figure I'd revive one of my favorite old threads: what kind of
music do you all out there like to play during your game sessions to
foster that SR atmosphere?
IMHO, atmosphere music is best played fairly softly, both so that
the players aren't distracted by the lyrics (if any) and so that speech
can be easily heard (Most of my friends have stereos that are best
described as RMBFB (Really Mind-Blowingly Fucking Big), so the whole
speech-volume thing becomes important). Withthat in mind, here are some
of my old favs:

Virtually anything by Nine Inch Nails, especially Fixed, Rusty
Nails, or any number of "Extended" mix CDs.

Certain songs by Sister Machine Gun (Sins of the Flesh, Burn,
etc.)

The Crow _Score_, (not the soundtrack, although it is OK).

Various songs by Joy Division (Transmission, She's Lost Control,
Shadow Play, Day of the Lords)

Killing Joke. (I only own the Pandemonium album, so I don't know
about the rest of their stuff).

Gravity Kills (Especially the Guilty remix album with some of the
very extended, creepy remixes of Guilty, absolutely wonderful for subtly
freaking out the players).

The Hackers Soundtrack (Esp. tracks 2 and 3).

The Bladerunner soundtrack, not to be too cliche, :).

Variuos songs by KMFDM (light, etc.)

Well, that ought to be enough to start the thread up again. On
with Nostalgia Month! (I think next I'll post something about APDS,
followed by a post on character generation, with a post or two about
Dunkelzahn's Death, :P ).

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Message no. 9
From: BulletShower <nmatausc@****.CIP.FAK14.UNI-MUENCHEN.DE>
Subject: Re: Shadowrun Music
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:59:31 +1000
Another one for SR muzak:

- Napalm Death, the "Fear, Emptiness, Despair" album. Great stuff.
- Wagner, all works (suitable for showdowns)
- Nail Bomb, "24 hours bullshit" song (or the whole album)


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Message no. 10
From: "Steven A. Tinner" <bluewizard@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Shadowrun Music
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 03:12:25 -0800
Now these are gonna seem silly, but you asked for it! :-)

Mortal Kombat Soundtrak (From the game, not the film.)
The Gear Daddies - Bubba's Favorites!
Abba (For those retro clubs)
Kraftwerk - good techie tunes
David Zaffiro - "In Scarlet Storm"
Billy Squier - "Lonely is the Night", "The Stroke", many more!
Clannad - "Soundtrak to Robin Hood (The British TV version, not the
crappy movie.)
Ruby - Not music, more of a live play, but has great sounds!
The Art of Noise - mostly for the Noise
Mike Nesmith of the Monkees and Frank Zappa "playing" a car with
sledgehammers! (Not kidding! They did it on an old Monkees episode!!!)
Petra - "Computer Brains"
Dramarama - "Work for Food", "Don't feel like doin' Drugs", "Hey
Grandpa"
Agent Orange - Living in Darkness, This is the Voice, Real Live Sound
(Great band. Can't reccomend them enough!)
Altar Boys - "Gut Level Music", "Kids are on the Run"
Andreas Vollenwieder - "Dancing with the Lion" -
techno-shaman-electroharp music!

Other than that, anything that's handy! :-)

Steven A. Tinner
"The Chocolate Eclair-voyante"
Message no. 11
From: IEngelmann@***.COM
Subject: Re: Shadowrun Music
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 18:18:44 -0500
Hi there,

another good music especially when you are in a city is:

Vangelis "The City"

Ilja
Message no. 12
From: Graht Graht@**********.worldnet.att.net
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 15:43:56 -0500
FWIW, the CD "The Matrix: Music from the Motion Picture" makes a great
Shadowrun CD (and kicks ass in general).

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Message no. 13
From: Cybertroll cybertroll@******.crosswinds.net
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 00:56:03 +0300
Graht wrote:
>
> FWIW, the CD "The Matrix: Music from the Motion Picture" makes a great
> Shadowrun CD (and kicks ass in general).
>
> -Graht

Hehehehhe I tottally agree even if I don't listen to this kind of music
in general. Also Body Count, Slayer and Suicidal Tendencies rule for
Shadowrun Combats

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Message no. 14
From: Xyron II markus.meisen@****.uni-muenchen.de
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 01:05:08 +0200
> > FWIW, the CD "The Matrix: Music from the Motion Picture" makes a great
> > Shadowrun CD (and kicks ass in general).
> >
> > -Graht
>
> Hehehehhe I tottally agree even if I don't listen to this kind of music
> in general. Also Body Count, Slayer and Suicidal Tendencies rule for
> Shadowrun Combats
>
> Cybertroll

Weird Thought:
Has anyone tried "Bolero" (from Maurice Ravel) for a Shadowrun Combat Music?
In a game of mine, it was great! Gave a lot of that "slow motion" feeling you
should get when rolling dice for half an hour for simulating a 12-second
combat... also reminded me of these super-slomo-scenes from "The Matrix"...

Seeya,

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Message no. 15
From: dghost@****.com dghost@****.com
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:50:55 -0700
On Wed, 08 Sep 1999 15:43:56 -0500 Graht
<Graht@**********.worldnet.att.net> writes:
> FWIW, the CD "The Matrix: Music from the Motion Picture" makes a great
> Shadowrun CD (and kicks ass in general).

I don't know if it's the name of the band or the actual song, but the
Rage Against the Machines track seemed particularly safe ...

That reminds me, the Shadowrun Music page was on Lady J's, right?

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Message no. 16
From: David Yiannakos yiannako@*******.edu
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 00:22:41 -0400
| I don't know if it's the name of the band or the actual song, but the
| Rage Against the Machines track seemed particularly safe ...
|

Just FYI the band is Rage Against the Machine, and the song, IIRC is called
"Wake Up"
And yes it is a great song.

---Dave ('s not here man)
Message no. 17
From: Ken Ken@********.com
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 00:48:19 -0400
>
> | I don't know if it's the name of the band or the actual song, but the
> | Rage Against the Machines track seemed particularly safe ...
> |
>
> Just FYI the band is Rage Against the Machine, and the song, IIRC
> is called
> "Wake Up"
> And yes it is a great song.
>
> ---Dave ('s not here man)


I thought that "No Shelter" was also appropriate mood music

Ken
Message no. 18
From: dghost@****.com dghost@****.com
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 00:58:32 -0700
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:50:55 -0700 dghost@****.com writes:
<SNIP>
> I don't know if it's the name of the band or the actual song, but the
Rage Against the Machines track seemed
>particularly safe ...
<SNIP>

???
What the hell? Every since I came back from Portugal my English has
degraded slightly ... (I try every year to relearn Portuguesse ...)

What I meant was that it seemed particularly appropriate :)

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Message no. 19
From: dghost@****.com dghost@****.com
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 01:42:51 -0700
On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 00:48:19 -0400 "Ken" <Ken@********.com> writes:
> > | I don't know if it's the name of the band or the actual song, but
the
> > | Rage Against the Machines track seemed particularly safe ...

> > Just FYI the band is Rage Against the Machine, and the song, IIRC is
called "Wake Up"
> > And yes it is a great song.
> > ---Dave ('s not here man)

I left off the aprostrophe (Should've read "... the Machine's track) and
yes, it is "Wake Up"

> I thought that "No Shelter" was also appropriate mood music

Where is it from? It's not on the Matrix Soundtrack ...

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Message no. 20
From: abortion_engine abortion_engine@*******.com
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 03:32:10 -0400
We generally don't listen to music while we play; I don't think well when
music's playing about anything other than the music itself. But sometimes we
do.

Try Einsturzende Neubauten's "Tabula Rasa," or "Halber Mensch." Or
Laibach's
"Opus Dei." Or Aphex Twin's "Selected Ambient Works Vol. 2." Or
Ministry's
"Psalm 69," if you just want to break things. The best is probably the
soundtrack for the film "Heat." Also good, the score for "The Crow."
Depending on the mood for the night in question, "Radio Inferno" or
"Deutsch
Kreiger" or "Apocalypse Live" by F. M. Einheit et. al., or "Martin
Atkins
and the Chicago Industrial League Present an Industrial Christmas Carol," or
Kronos Quartet. Or Wagner. Or Stravinsky.

Come to think of it, I'd rather listen to just about anything other than
Rage Against The Machine. But I prefer music that takes talent to make.
[With the exception of Ministry. Al's a hack.]
Message no. 21
From: Bruce gyro@********.co.za
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:41:07 +0200
From: dghost@****.com <dghost@****.com>
To: shadowrn@*********.org <shadowrn@*********.org>
Date: 09 September 1999 05:15
Subject: Re: Shadowrun Music


>On Wed, 08 Sep 1999 15:43:56 -0500 Graht
><Graht@**********.worldnet.att.net> writes:
>> FWIW, the CD "The Matrix: Music from the Motion Picture" makes a
great
>> Shadowrun CD (and kicks ass in general).
>
>I don't know if it's the name of the band or the actual song, but the
>Rage Against the Machines track seemed particularly safe ...

Yeah, I was muchos disappointed by the RAtM track.. very pedestrian..
However, the Hive track "Ultrasonic Sound" totally kicks... :)
Anyone heard the Hive album?
Message no. 22
From: Lady Jestyr jestyr@*********.html.com
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 00:50:44 +1000
>I don't know if it's the name of the band or the actual song, but the
>Rage Against the Machines track seemed particularly safe ...
>
>That reminds me, the Shadowrun Music page was on Lady J's, right?

Nope... http://shadowrun.html.com/uol/srmovies/ has the SR Movies List. If
there's a music list, I don't know where it is.

Lady Jestyr
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Message no. 23
From: Wildfire Wildfire@*************.com
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 11:14:40 -0400
Lady Jestyr wrote:

> >I don't know if it's the name of the band or the actual song, but the
> >Rage Against the Machines track seemed particularly safe ...
> >
> >That reminds me, the Shadowrun Music page was on Lady J's, right?
>
> Nope... http://shadowrun.html.com/uol/srmovies/ has the SR Movies List. If
> there's a music list, I don't know where it is.
>
> Lady Jestyr
> ~ Hell hath no fury like a geek with a whippersnipper ~
>
> * jestyr@*****.com | URL: http://www.geocities.com/~jestyr *

Don't think anyone has put up a page as of yet, but there is at least the mod
files up on thor. Can't find the address offhand...

Wildfire
Message no. 24
From: David Yiannakos yiannako@*******.edu
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:58:28 -0400
| > I thought that "No Shelter" was also appropriate mood music
|
| Where is it from? It's not on the Matrix Soundtrack ...
|

It's from Godzilla, I believe. The funny thing is, I don't really like most
of the bands that have a similar style to Rage, and I don't even like a lot
of their songs, but I find myself liking certain songs of theirs a lot,
especially the ones they do for soundtracks.

---Dave ('s not here man)
Message no. 25
From: Walter Scheper Ratlaw@*******.com
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 18:23:45 +0000 (GMT)
On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 03:32:10 -0400, abortion_engine
[snip a great list of music]
>Come to think of it, I'd rather listen to just about anything other than
>Rage Against The Machine. But I prefer music that takes talent to make.
>[With the exception of Ministry. Al's a hack.]
>
Hey, IMO RAtM has some of the greatest lyrics of any music to date.
Not so much in *what* he's saying, but more in how he says it. The
man's got talent, now the music and the message may not be in your
taste, but I think his passion and his skill in phrasing are
unsurpassed (especially in popular music).

Ratlaw (who knows that this is totally OT and will refrain from
further commentary)
Message no. 26
From: dghost@****.com dghost@****.com
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 19:25:40 -0700
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 00:50:44 +1000 Lady Jestyr
<jestyr@*********.html.com> writes:
<SNIP>
> >That reminds me, the Shadowrun Music page was on Lady J's, right?

> Nope... http://shadowrun.html.com/uol/srmovies/ has the SR Movies
List. If
> there's a music list, I don't know where it is.

I thought you were/did create one ... oh well ... Now I know and knowing
is half the battle ;)

/me runs from Lady J and hides behind Scarlet

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Message no. 27
From: Patrick Goodman remo@***.net
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:51:02 -0500
> >That reminds me, the Shadowrun Music page was on Lady J's, right?
>
> Nope... http://shadowrun.html.com/uol/srmovies/ has the SR Movies List.
> If there's a music list, I don't know where it is.

I'd consider hosting one, but no one seems to trust my taste....

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Message no. 28
From: Ken Ken@********.com
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 23:03:41 -0400
>
> On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 00:48:19 -0400 "Ken" <Ken@********.com> writes:
> > > | I don't know if it's the name of the band or the actual song, but
> the
> > > | Rage Against the Machines track seemed particularly safe ...
>
> > > Just FYI the band is Rage Against the Machine, and the song, IIRC is
> called "Wake Up"
> > > And yes it is a great song.
> > > ---Dave ('s not here man)
>
> I left off the aprostrophe (Should've read "... the Machine's track) and
> yes, it is "Wake Up"
>
> > I thought that "No Shelter" was also appropriate mood music
>
> Where is it from? It's not on the Matrix Soundtrack ...

Actually "No Shelter" Showed up first on the Godzilla Soundtrack. I first
heard it on the radio but thats where folks said it was first released. For
those that don't know its another Rage against the Machine tune

Ken
Message no. 29
From: Mark Fender markf@******.com
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:57:18 -0500
> [snip a great list of music]
> >Come to think of it, I'd rather listen to just about anything other than
> >Rage Against The Machine. But I prefer music that takes talent to make.
> >[With the exception of Ministry. Al's a hack.]
> >
> Hey, IMO RAtM has some of the greatest lyrics of any music to date.
> Not so much in *what* he's saying, but more in how he says it. The
> man's got talent, now the music and the message may not be in your
> taste, but I think his passion and his skill in phrasing are
> unsurpassed (especially in popular music).
>
His skill in phrasing?!! La Rocha's got some of the worst lyrics ever to be
in a song (next to that damned stupid "New Kids on the Block had lots of
hits/Chines food makes me sick/I like girls who wear Abercrombie & Fitch"
song) I like Rage and all but that one song on the Crow soundtrack has the
immortal words:

AIDS is killing the entire African nation

Newsflash, Mr. Harvard Graduate, Africa is not a nation, it's a CONTINENT.
Idiot.

Other than that, they're cool.
Message no. 30
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:34:48 EDT
In a message dated 9/10/1999 9:04:57 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
markf@******.com writes:

> AIDS is killing the entire African nation
>
> Newsflash, Mr. Harvard Graduate, Africa is not a nation, it's a CONTINENT.
> Idiot.
>
> Other than that, they're cool.

Mark, I think it is time you quit reading a given bit of material for the
immediate wording and *try* and understand the intent. The "African Nation"
being spoken/sung about has NOTHING to do with Africa as a
continental/tectonic plate. It has to do with those people that feel a
unity/gathering in the term "African" and have formed a more abstract
definition of what it means to be a "Nation." This is more a
super-social/uber-political force than it is a standard descriptive use of
terminology.

-K (No, I'm NOT trying to be mean, I'm trying to explain something that has
a great deal of impact upon a great many people)
Message no. 31
From: Robert Blackberg Robert.Blackberg@***.fiserv.com
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:32:29 -0400
>>> Mark Fender <markf@******.com> 09/10/99 09:57AM >>>

>AIDS is killing the entire African nation

>Newsflash, Mr. Harvard Graduate, Africa is not a nation, it's a CONTINENT.
>Idiot.


I think he's using the term "nation" in the same way the term "Indian
nations" was once used. Not to refer to a geographical distribution, but rather to a
race of people. In this case, black people. Besides, "African nation" rolls
off the tounge better than "African continent." It's kinda slant rhyme and
alliteration.

Just my 2.

Robert (no cool tagline, just a plain line______________________)
Message no. 32
From: Robert Blackberg Robert.Blackberg@***.fiserv.com
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:40:34 -0400
>>> <Ereskanti@***.com> 09/10/99 10:34AM >>>
>Mark, I think it is time you quit reading a given bit of material for the
>immediate wording and *try* and understand the intent. The "African Nation"

>being spoken/sung about has NOTHING to do with Africa as a
>continental/tectonic plate. It has to do with those people that feel a
>unity/gathering in the term "African" and have formed a more abstract
>definition of what it means to be a "Nation." This is more a
>super-social/uber-political force than it is a standard descriptive use of
>terminology.

>-K (No, I'm NOT trying to be mean, I'm trying to explain something that has
>a great deal of impact upon a great many people)


By two minutes you beat me? I knew I shouldn't have looked up the word
"alliteration." Lord knows, we see enough bad spelling on this list that a
little from me should go unnoticed. ;-)

Robert (no cool tagline, just a plain line___________________)
Message no. 33
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:42:58 EDT
In a message dated 9/10/1999 9:46:15 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
Robert.Blackberg@***.fiserv.com writes:

>
> By two minutes you beat me? I knew I shouldn't have looked up the word "
> alliteration." Lord knows, we see enough bad spelling on this list that a
> little from me should go unnoticed. ;-)

Hey, but at least you had the common decency to check your wording first ...
more than I can often say. Makes you a better guy IMO. :)

-K
Message no. 34
From: Mark Fender markf@******.com
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:42:32 -0500
> > AIDS is killing the entire African nation
> >
> > Newsflash, Mr. Harvard Graduate, Africa is not a nation, it's a
> CONTINENT.
> > Idiot.
> >
> > Other than that, they're cool.
>
> Mark, I think it is time you quit reading a given bit of material for the
> immediate wording and *try* and understand the intent. The "African
> Nation"
> being spoken/sung about has NOTHING to do with Africa as a
> continental/tectonic plate. It has to do with those people that feel a
> unity/gathering in the term "African" and have formed a more abstract
> definition of what it means to be a "Nation." This is more a
> super-social/uber-political force than it is a standard descriptive use of
>
> terminology.
>
You know, this is what I thought the first time I head this too. Until the
next few lines in the song.

"Supposedly a vaccine is under preparation....

Instead we'll kill them off, take their land, and go there for vacation."

That sounds more like a place description than, say Cabrini Green (Where a
good percentage of the "African Nation" lives). As in another place not next
door. As in another continent.
Message no. 35
From: Thomas thomas041179@***.de
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 10:58:37 +0200
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> > | I don't know if it's the name of the band or the actual song,
but the
> > | Rage Against the Machines track seemed particularly safe ...
> > |
> >
> > Just FYI the band is Rage Against the Machine, and the song, IIRC
> > is called
> > "Wake Up"
> > And yes it is a great song.

Try out some PC-Games. The background-music can mostly be play with a
normal CD-player. And it's pretty cool for SR too.
Try DSA, MechCommander3, or any other game you have..



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Message no. 36
From: Bruce gyro@********.co.za
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:35:34 +0200
From: Ereskanti@***.com <Ereskanti@***.com>
To: shadowrn@*********.org <shadowrn@*********.org>
Date: 10 September 1999 04:42
Subject: Re: Shadowrun Music


>In a message dated 9/10/1999 9:04:57 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
>markf@******.com writes:
>
>> AIDS is killing the entire African nation
>>
>> Newsflash, Mr. Harvard Graduate, Africa is not a nation, it's a
CONTINENT.
>> Idiot.
>>
>> Other than that, they're cool.
>
>Mark, I think it is time you quit reading a given bit of material for
the
>immediate wording and *try* and understand the intent. The "African
Nation"
>being spoken/sung about has NOTHING to do with Africa as a
>continental/tectonic plate. It has to do with those people that feel
a
>unity/gathering in the term "African" and have formed a more abstract
>definition of what it means to be a "Nation." This is more a
>super-social/uber-political force than it is a standard descriptive
use of
>terminology.
>
>-K (No, I'm NOT trying to be mean, I'm trying to explain something
that has
>a great deal of impact upon a great many people)


As an African , I thought I would pick up the ball here.

Africa is the most fragmented and divisive continent. Tribal divisions
still break
out in open warfare regularly. The reason the UN called for the entire
African continent
to declare HIV / AIDS a national emergency in each nation is because
it is wiping us out.
The virus has done so well because of the lack of communication and
cooperation, the
prevalance of corruption in government and ever present warfare and
conflict.

Africa has probably never been in more trouble.

- + - BRUCE <gyro@********.co.za> -

MiX it UP!
Message no. 37
From: Carsten Gehling alvion@****.uni2.dk
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:03:57 +0100
From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*********.html.com>

> Nope... http://shadowrun.html.com/uol/srmovies/ has the SR Movies List. If
> there's a music list, I don't know where it is.

Ok, give me a couple days and I'll make a page on http://www.seanet.dk/music
where you can submit your favorite Shadowrun music.

- Carsten

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Message no. 38
From: Dan Grabon djmoose@******.kornet.net
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 09:24:30 +0900
On 5/17/00 8:27 AM, Alfredo B Alves at dghost@****.com wrote:

> Hmm ... This might be interesting ... would music see revived traditional
> music (ie, chants and such) mixed with modern music (ie, Druidic chants
> with blazing guitars). I don't see this as purely an awakened interest. I
> think with the rise/return of magic, older cultural music will be revived
> and intertwined with modern music and create fractured genres; perhaps to
> the point of non-definition. (Does that make any sense? :) )

Abserootry. I see a lot of stuff like that happening; my personal fav would
be "Tir hardcore." Think Enya or Clannad on crack. :) It's hard to find
something like this now (which is why I'm going to try to write something,
one of these years), but to get a few ideas of these unusual cross-genre
blends, you can start with electronica. I think Enigma falls into that
category. Tony Levin, the bassist for Peter Gabriel and King Crimson, has
done some really interesting stuff with a bunch of 'world musicians.' On
one album he plays the Chapman Stick (a vicious-sounding guitar-bass hybrid)
with one guy on Native American drums and another on East Indian flute and
an assortment of woodwinds. On another album he plays with a variety of
guys who've collaborated with Peter Gabriel. Neither album is particularly
hard-edged, but it'll give you some nice ideas-- and it's all instrumental
so it makes decent background music.

When I think about music in SR, the operative words are variety and chaos.
You've got old genres resurrected and reinterpreted (and don't forget that
even 1990's music will be considered ancient), really old genres being
merged with newer sounds, dizzyingly complex orchestrations made possible
with OMNI and direct neural control, genres for each culture, race, and all
possible permutations thereof, etc., etc. There will always be blues, and
who knows where jazz will have explored.

Of course corp-manufactured pop will be stronger than ever. If you imagine
several of the megas (or sub-megas) getting into production, you can guess
that every week will have the next best thing (which anyone with taste
despises). The current trend-of-the-week in my game is dynamica. A
description I used in my PBEM game:

"You walk in the club and are subjected to a wall of low, pulsing notes.
All monotone, no variation in rhythm, just wildly fluctuating volume levels.
It sucks and leaves you longing for the days of Japanese ork reggae bands."

-moose

---
Dan "Moose" Grabon - djmoose@******.kornet.net
Libra: (Sept. 23--Oct. 23)
Your boast that you could solve the Arab-Israeli conflict with one hand tied
behind your back comes back to haunt you when you try to escape Syria in a
rowboat.
-- Horoscope from The Onion, 15 March 2000
Message no. 39
From: Dan Grabon djmoose@******.kornet.net
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 09:52:29 +0900
Nuts... forgot to mention one other thing. There are bound to be a lot of
Japanese and other Asian music groups popular in Seattle and the like, what
with all the megas there. The bands might well blend Japanese and English
lyrics and styles. Fortunately this is real easy; you can find such bands
today if you check out your import sections. Can't say I know any
off-hand...

...but if you want something in Korean and English, go with Shin Hae-Chul,
aka Crom. Does techno, industrial, rock, and odd fusions of those. Pretty
dark stuff with moments of light, which also helps. The album "Monocrom,"
where he collaborates with an English guitarist, has some music that would
fit pretty well into, well, a lot of places. It also has a traditional
Korean 'opera' style blended in to a few songs.

-moose

---
Dan "Moose" Grabon - djmoose@******.kornet.net
There comes a time in every man's life when he has to look the potato of
injustice right in the eye.
--Stanley Spadowski
Message no. 40
From: Patrick Goodman remo@***.net
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 22:58:51 -0500
From: Dan Grabon
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 7:25 PM

> "You walk in the club and are subjected to a wall of low, pulsing
> notes. All monotone, no variation in rhythm, just wildly fluctuating
> volume levels. It sucks and leaves you longing for the days of
> Japanese ork reggae bands."

Oooooooh, there's an image that'll stick with you for all the wrong
reasons....

--
Patrick E. Goodman
remo@***.net
"I'm going to tell you something cool." -- Gene Wolfe
Message no. 41
From: Dan Grabon djmoose@******.kornet.net
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 19:10:50 +0900
On 5/17/00 12:58 PM, Patrick Goodman at remo@***.net wrote:

>> "You walk in the club and are subjected to a wall of low, pulsing
>> notes. All monotone, no variation in rhythm, just wildly fluctuating
>> volume levels. It sucks and leaves you longing for the days of
>> Japanese ork reggae bands."
> Oooooooh, there's an image that'll stick with you for all the wrong
> reasons....
I seem to be good at that. First pointing out that Sailor Bubba's skirt
should've been shorter, now this... :)

Actually, I can definitely picture some Japanese ork reggae. Think about
it... first of all, even now I'm pretty sure there's some underground reggae
in Japan. Second, if the Rastas thought Jamaica was Hell, think how orks
must feel about Yumi...

-moose

---
Dan "Moose" Grabon - djmoose@******.kornet.net
There comes a time in every man's life when he has to look the potato of
injustice right in the eye.
--Stanley Spadowski
Message no. 42
From: Phil Smith phil_urbanhell@*******.com
Subject: Shadowrun Music
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 17:51:28 GMT
>From: Dan Grabon <djmoose@******.kornet.net>
> > Hmm ... This might be interesting ... would music see revived
>traditional
> > music (ie, chants and such) mixed with modern music (ie, Druidic chants
> > with blazing guitars). I don't see this as purely an awakened interest.
>I
> > think with the rise/return of magic, older cultural music will be
>revived
> > and intertwined with modern music and create fractured genres; perhaps
>to
> > the point of non-definition. (Does that make any sense? :) )
>
>Abserootry. I see a lot of stuff like that happening; my personal fav
>would
>be "Tir hardcore." Think Enya or Clannad on crack. :) It's hard to find
>something like this now (which is why I'm going to try to write something,
>one of these years), but to get a few ideas of these unusual cross-genre
>blends, you can start with electronica.

In all the descriptions I ever read of SR music it says that it is almost
all electronic, so I always think of it as being like Atari Teenage Riot
with wierder vocals. Having said that, I could never satisfactoraly have a
world where no one did covers of songs by the Clash.

Phil
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