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Message no. 1
From: Fastjack <uc298@*****.UNICAN.ES>
Subject: Shadowruns world
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:28:47 +0100
Well,perhaps this isnt a rules question,but speaks about the
Shadoeruns world here in Spain.
Is Shadowrun a well considerer game in your countries??

I may say the following:
In Spain,before the traduction was very bad considerer:"The Big Bluff
of the 90s,the characters too steretyped..."and all the magazines spoke
bad about the game.
After,when the game was traducted...things become worse:
I only saw two shadowrun modules published in the spanish magazines,and
the two were stupid:Mutant cow,dragon with stupid abilities,people living
in the culvert with a mini-golf...The modules were ridiculous!!:-(
And when published a poster of shadowrun,well...The only good picture
were the Shadowruns logotype.
Also,in a magazine published a shadowrun-Cyberpunk comparative.And Cyberpuk
smashed Shadowrun.Ok,but after you read who write the
comparative,and...the writer was the responsable of the Cyberpunks
traduction!!(a guy very objective,of course :-( ).And the comparatiion
was in the line:"Yeah,Shadowrun is great,but Cyberpunk is the best
cyberpunk game.""Magic sucks in a cyberpunk world"etc

Now,i enter in my Favourite specialized library,and go to the
Cyberpunk games section,and only see cyberpunks books.Where is
shadsowrun?i asked to the boss."Ah!,i sold all".But the fact is that i
only see there one time the Rules book and DNA-DOA....I play a boicoted RPG!!
So,when i want to buy a sourcebook,i must request it to the
librarie,because he always has all sold;and as the book will come from
the USA,i must wait about 3 months!!.Past month i requested the rigger
black book,and until Christmas i dont know if ill receive the book,or is
delayed,or is out of print(as i saw in the FASAs home page)...Life is
hard for a Shadowruns player...

Well,perhaps things dont happen so in all Spain,but the magazines are
nationals,and i can assure all of you,that where i lives (Cantabria,north
of Spain)is what happens.
Message no. 2
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Shadowruns world
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 12:11:58 +0100
Fastjack said on 16:28/24 Oct 96...

> Is Shadowrun a well considerer game in your countries??

I hardly know any Shadowrun players (or RPG-ers) at all here, so I can't
really say what others think of SR in this country. Most of the SR players
I know are in foreign countries :/

> In Spain,before the traduction was very bad considerer:"The Big Bluff
> of the 90s,the characters too steretyped..."and all the magazines spoke
> bad about the game.

Just as a side note, the word you mean is "translated," not
"transducted."

> Now,i enter in my Favourite specialized library,and go to the
> Cyberpunk games section,and only see cyberpunks books.Where is
> shadsowrun?i asked to the boss."Ah!,i sold all".

Yeah, right. "We just sold the last <insert whatever you're looking for
here> yesterday!"

> But the fact is that i only see there one time the Rules book and
> DNA-DOA....I play a boicoted RPG!! So,when i want to buy a sourcebook,i
> must request it to the librarie,because he always has all sold;and as
> the book will come from the USA,i must wait about 3 months!!.Past month
> i requested the rigger black book,and until Christmas i dont know if ill
> receive the book,or is delayed,or is out of print(as i saw in the FASAs
> home page)...Life is hard for a Shadowruns player...

Mail order your books from another country, for example the UK has lots of
game stores that do mail order and the prices are about the same as in the
US; all you need is a copy of a British RPG magazine and look at the
advertisements, or look at FASA's web page and go to the retailers
section.

In the area where I live, there are NO game stores AT ALL, and that
pisses me off no end. As a result, I get nearly all my RPG books by mail
order, out of necessity.

--
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Message no. 3
From: Peter Leitch <pleitch_hpcs@*******.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Shadowruns world
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 01:59:52 +1000
At 12:11 25/10/96 +0100, Gurth wrote:
>In the area where I live, there are NO game stores AT ALL, and that
>pisses me off no end. As a result, I get nearly all my RPG books by mail
>order, out of necessity.


<SMART-ARSE>
Aaaawwww, Gurth. Diddums...poor baby. :-{)
Here in Australia, we get everything...sometimes a little late, but usually
within a couple of weeks of release in the US. Sometimes not, but
usually. And we don't have to translate.

Sorry, I'll turn off my smart-arse mode now... :-{)
</SMART-ARSE>

PML

***************************************
Peter Leitch
<pleitch_hpcs@*******.com.au>
Canberra, Australia
Message no. 4
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@****.ORG>
Subject: Re: Shadowruns world
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 10:59:24 -0600
Gurth wrote:
|
|In the area where I live, there are NO game stores AT ALL, and that
|pisses me off no end. As a result, I get nearly all my RPG books by mail
|order, out of necessity.

!?! Gurth, go get a loan and start your own business!

-David

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