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Message no. 1
From: loneeagle@********.co.uk (Lone Eagle)
Subject: Shadowrun Videogame Hope
Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 18:21:33 +0100
At 07:14 PM 19/5/2003, Scott wrote:
>Maybe he'd be open to a temporary partnership? Or ...
>since it's such a cool idea, maybe the idea could be
>generated and developed independantly and then
>presented to Microsoft, WizKids, FanPro as a proposal.
>
>Also, remember, a lot of games produced now are
>cross-platformed (PS2, XBox, & GameCube), so there
>must be SOME level of cooperation there already.

Ahh but he's starting to get worried about the GameCube ATM, two
multi-platform games have just been altered, one has just become X-Box
exclusive and the other will only be available for the PS2 and X-Box. The
PS2 is really out of date now and Bill Gates had been thinking that his
greatest loss-maker might make a comeback... Then GameCube exclusives
started hitting the top of the all-consoles charts.
Cooperating with Nintendo does not appear to be high on Microsoft's
priority list at the moment.
The cooperation is on the part of the software developers, they want to
sell the games they write to make the most money, if none of the big three
(as it were) are willing to pay for exclusivity then it goes multi platform.


--
Lone Eagle
"Hold up lads, I got an idea."

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Message no. 2
From: zebulingod@*****.com (Zebulin Magby)
Subject: Shadowrun Videogame Hope
Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 10:26:52 -0700
"Lone Eagle" <loneeagle@********.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Ahh but he's starting to get worried about the GameCube ATM, two
> multi-platform games have just been altered, one has just become X-Box
> exclusive and the other will only be available for the PS2 and X-Box. The
> PS2 is really out of date now

How so? Do you mean that in the "everything is obsolete by the time it comes
off the shelf"? I don't really think the PS2 is obsolete quite yet.

Zeb
Message no. 3
From: cmd_jackryan@***.net (Phillip Gawlowski)
Subject: Shadowrun Videogame Hope
Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 12:53:32 +0200
Am Tue, 20 May 2003 10:26:52 -0700 hat Zebulin Magby <zebulingod@*****.com>
geschrieben:


> How so? Do you mean that in the "everything is obsolete by the time it
> comes
> off the shelf"? I don't really think the PS2 is obsolete quite yet.

It is. Just not dead yet.
The graphics power of an X-Box or Game Cube is much higher than that of the
PS2.
How old is that thing now? 3, 4 years?


--
Phillip Gawlowski
GameMaster and GeneralIdiot

http://www.jack-ryan.de/shadowrun
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developers@***********.net
Message no. 4
From: SteveG@***********.co.za (Steve Garrard)
Subject: Shadowrun Videogame Hope
Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 14:09:03 +0200
Zebulin Magby wrote:
> "Lone Eagle" <loneeagle@********.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Ahh but he's starting to get worried about the GameCube ATM, two
> > multi-platform games have just been altered, one has just
> become X-Box
> > exclusive and the other will only be available for the PS2
> and X-Box.
> > The PS2 is really out of date now
>
> How so? Do you mean that in the "everything is obsolete by
> the time it comes off the shelf"? I don't really think the
> PS2 is obsolete quite yet.

I have to agree with you there. It may be the older of the "big three" (PS2,
X-Box, GameCube), but it's far from out of date! You also have to remember
that the PS2 is sold and supported in a MUCH larger number of countries than
either of the other two, particularly the X-Box.


Slayer

"Beware my wrath, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup."
- Unknown Dragon


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Message no. 5
From: davidb@****.imcprint.com (Graht)
Subject: Shadowrun Videogame Hope
Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 08:13:38 -0600
At 12:53 PM 5/21/2003 +0200, Phillip Gawlowski wrote:
>Am Tue, 20 May 2003 10:26:52 -0700 hat Zebulin Magby
><zebulingod@*****.com> geschrieben:
>
>
>>How so? Do you mean that in the "everything is obsolete by the time it comes
>>off the shelf"? I don't really think the PS2 is obsolete quite yet.
>
>It is. Just not dead yet.
>The graphics power of an X-Box or Game Cube is much higher than that of
>the PS2.
>How old is that thing now? 3, 4 years?

And do you know what? That doesn't mean squat. What matters is the
overall quality/quantity of games made for a system. When PS1, N64, and
Dreamcast came out I bought the N64 because I thought it was better then
the other two when it came to what it could do. Which turned out to the be
the better system? PS1, and not because of graphics quality, but because
of the overwhelming number of games that were made for it.

This time around I bought a PS2, because it could play 99% of the games
made for the PS1 and if Sony didn't change it's business model then game
designers would be able to continue to crank out games for the PS2. I
wasn't about to get burned by Nintendo again (granted there were some great
games for the N64, but they numbered less than 20). And to my knowledge
the XBox only has one great game (albiet I would buy an XBox if I could
afford it just to play Halo), and one game does not a console make.

Anyway, how to dovetail this into Shadowrun...

The PCs are hired by a game software company to steal the hardware specs
from a game console company. It turns out the software company signed an
exclusive contract with the game console, but the console company is being
stingy and not releasing all of the specs because they (the console maker)
are under the misguided impression that if the software company's titles
are competitive with the console's titles that that will be a "bad thing"(tm).

The software company realizes that they will go out of business if they
can't get the consoles specs, so they are willing to invest in the PCs run
to the point of equipping them and sending them to Japan (where the
headquarters of the console's company is). Run Japan in a Black Rain
fashion in that the PCs never get a chance to get centered in the
environment/culture of cyberJapan.

--
To Life,
-Graht
ShadowRN Assistant Fearless Leader II
http://www.graht.com
Message no. 6
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: Shadowrun Videogame Hope
Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 19:13:07 +0200
According to Graht, on Wednesday 21 May 2003 16:13 the word on the street
was...

> And do you know what? That doesn't mean squat. What matters is the
> overall quality/quantity of games made for a system.

Though that runs the risk of everyone ending up with the equivalent of
VHS...

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Message no. 7
From: jzealey@***.edu.au (James Zealey)
Subject: Shadowrun Videogame Hope
Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 10:06:27 +1000
> Gurth <gurth@******.nl>
>
> Though that runs the risk of everyone ending up with the equivalent of
> VHS...
>

Or Unix. Or Windows. Or C++. Or 120V, 60Hz power. Or the imperial
measurement system. Or...

Lets face it - when it comes to marketing technology, the winner has
nothing whatsoever to do with the actual merits of the technology involved.

Which is why I think marketing degrees should be illegal...

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