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Message no. 1
From: Can I play with madness <MKNABUSCH@******.BITNET>
Subject: *sigh*
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 22:07:32 -0400
C'mon guys, please keep the flames to the
minimum amount necessary. Heck, we're even
giving ol' Talky a run for his money with
all the toastin' goin on.
Michael
aka Harlequin
Message no. 2
From: Can I play with madness <MKNABUSCH@******.BITNET>
Subject: *sigh*
Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 16:21:42 -0500
Have a good one all. Summer is upon me and it seems that I must
leave this wonderful campus. *sarcastic sniff* But have no fear,
I shall be back in the fall.

Michael Knabusch
aka Harlequin

P.S. If anyone wants info about drugs in SR, contact Pat Rogers at
IN%"PROGERS@****.albion.edu". He has some great stuff to help and
hinder PC's.
Message no. 3
From: Laughing Boy <JLR@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Subject: <sigh>
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 12:53:56 -0700
probably my last post to Shadowrun <sigh><sigh><sigh>...

Munchkin Man Jr. --
The son of the great munchkin man. Is a vampiric, mutant brine shrimp. Has the
power to destroy anything with a thought. Carries a penta-barrel rail gun that
has a range of 20 miles and does 45D damage, for when he dosn't want to destroy
something with a thought. Can not be hurt by any element on the periodic table,
or any alloy of those elements, or by magic or by psionics or by anything
concievable by man or beast. Can cast every spell ever thought of at force 20
and automatically resists drain. Is always accompanied by 400 force 50 water
elementals that obey his every whim. Catch phrase: DIE!

-Laughing Boy, who was bored again.....

_________________________________________________________________________
I"Elvis the Dark God Above, Below and sometimes Sideways" -Laughing boy I
I I
I"Elvis, long may he reign, his power is eternal"-Laughing boy I
I I
I"Pray for the coming of SMURF!" -Laughing boy I
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Message no. 4
From: Mike and Jill Johnson shadowrn@******.net
Subject: Sigh
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:05:47 -0600
Well I finally got around to wading through all the email that I haven't
read in several months. Hundreds of postings going back to pre-gencon.
Now I have a question. Is FASA ever going to release something new for
Shadowrun? Have VOR and Crimson Skies taken over? Also is the Shadowrun
CD that was mentioned in several posts ever going to be sold to those of us
who can't make it to Gen Con or is this another thing like the Shadowrun
III Hardback?


Michael Johnson
Message no. 5
From: Paolo Marcucci thatpaolo@****.com
Subject: Sigh
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:04:40 -0700
> Well I finally got around to wading through all the email that I haven't
> read in several months. Hundreds of postings going back to pre-gencon.
> Now I have a question. Is FASA ever going to release something new for
> Shadowrun? Have VOR and Crimson Skies taken over? Also is the Shadowrun
> CD that was mentioned in several posts ever going to be sold to
> those of us
> who can't make it to Gen Con or is this another thing like the Shadowrun
> III Hardback?

FASA released the Shadowrun Quick Start rules at Gencon, two major
sourcebooks are in the final stages of writing (Man&Machine and Cannon
Companion) and the path for the next two years is already defined pretty
well. So Shadowrun is still here with us.

Vor and CS are awesome games, but they are targeted to a different public
than Shadowrun or Mechwarrior. No worries about overlapping market :)

The Shadowrun CD is made by a belgian company, I don't remember the url for
ordering it, tho...

-Paolo
Message no. 6
From: NytShade niteshade@********.org
Subject: Sigh
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 22:50:43 -0400
| The Shadowrun CD is made by a belgian company, I don't remember the url
for
| ordering it, tho...

http://www.thelonelymountain.com
Message no. 7
From: runnerpaul@*****.com runnerpaul@*****.com
Subject: Sigh
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:20:51 -0400 (EDT)
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At 08:05 PM 9/23/99 -0600, Mike and Jill Johnson wrote:
:Well I finally got around to wading through all the email that I
:haven't read in several months. Hundreds of postings going back to
:pre-gencon. Now I have a question. Is FASA ever going to release
:something new for Shadowrun?

*sigh*
The following products are in the pipeline:
Man & Machine
(cyberware and bioware updated to 3rd edition)

Corporate Punishment
(3 adventures, ties in with Corporate Download book)

Cannon Companion
(gun & combat sourcebook for 3rd edition)

Brainscan
(set of linked adventures, ties in with Renraku Arcology: Shutdown)

The Matrix
(an updated VR2: material made redundant because it's in the core
rules will be stripped out, and replaced with new content)

Year of the Comet
(Settings/Major Event sourcebook with plot hooks dealing with the
2061 return of Halley's Comet)

Rigger Redux <working title>
(updated R2: redundant content stripped, new stuff added)

Target: Awakened Lands
(Place Sourcebook: Australia and other high mana locales)

State of the Art: 2061
(Toy Catalog sourcebook: new spells, cyber, guns, vehicles, &
everyday items. Something for everyone)

Year of the Comet Adventure Set <working title>
(set of advetures that tie into YotC sourcebook)

Threats 2
(all new conspiracies for GMs to throw at their players)

The Awaknening: The First 50 Years
(history sourcebook for the years 2012-2062)

The Boo Scary Shadowrun Book Of The Night <working title>
(ways for GMs to scare the wits out of their players, including stuff
that makes Astral Space as dangerous to projecting magic-users as the
matrix is to deckers)

Survival of the Fittest
(new plot-twist spanning a couple of sourcebooks. only vague rumors
about this at this time)

Shadowrun.org <working title>
(The Draco Foundation and other non-corporate, non-organized crime
organizations)

North America Sourcebook <no working title>
(only in the advanced planning stages at this point, nothing firm)

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Message no. 8
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Sigh
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:38:28 +0200
According to Mike and Jill Johnson, at 20:05 on 23 Sep 99, the word on
the street was...

> Well I finally got around to wading through all the email that I haven't
> read in several months. Hundreds of postings going back to pre-gencon.
> Now I have a question. Is FASA ever going to release something new for
> Shadowrun?

Plenty of stuff is set up for release over the next two years or so.

> Have VOR and Crimson Skies taken over?

Only in as far as new games alway take the forefront, IMHO.

> Also is the Shadowrun CD that was mentioned in several posts ever going
> to be sold to those of us who can't make it to Gen Con or is this
> another thing like the Shadowrun III Hardback?

The CD is made by Belgian company Orion Design Studio, which is apparently
an off-shoot of the Antwerp game store The Lonely Mountain. The URL to
their web site is http://www.thelonelymountain.com, but there's nothing
much there when I looked a few days ago. I'm fairly sure they'll have
their RL address and phone/fax numbers on there, though, so you can always
contact them through that.

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Message no. 9
From: Sommers sommers@*****.edu
Subject: Sigh
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:19:53 -0400
At 07:04 PM 9/23/99 -0700, you wrote:
> > Well I finally got around to wading through all the email that I haven't
> > read in several months. Hundreds of postings going back to pre-gencon.
> > Now I have a question. Is FASA ever going to release something new for
> > Shadowrun? Have VOR and Crimson Skies taken over? Also is the Shadowrun
> > CD that was mentioned in several posts ever going to be sold to
> > those of us
> > who can't make it to Gen Con or is this another thing like the Shadowrun
> > III Hardback?
>
>FASA released the Shadowrun Quick Start rules at Gencon, two major
>sourcebooks are in the final stages of writing (Man&Machine and Cannon
>Companion) and the path for the next two years is already defined pretty
>well. So Shadowrun is still here with us.

He does have a valid point. The second half of the year goes from July to
Christmas. So far in the last quarter (July-September) FASA has released
for Shadowrun...Quick Start rules. And while I think they were definitely
needed, and have actually helped me to gain a completely new player, it is
just a summary of the game. Not much new stuff.

The last quarter of the year will see the release of Man and Machine in
October, which should rock. Its almost definite that Corporate Punishment
will be released. Then Year of the Comet and the Cannon Companion are
scheduled to be released "in the fourth quarter." I expect at least one of
them to be pushed back to 2000.

So far 6 months in 1999 they will have released 1 thin supplement, 1 think
supplement, and 1 set of adventures definitely. They might have one
campaign setting and another supplement, but at least one is going to be
late. I book every 2 months doesn't seem like a lot at all.

From the plans that we've heard, the next two years should see a big
increase, and I'm looking forward to it.

>Vor and CS are awesome games, but they are targeted to a different public
>than Shadowrun or Mechwarrior. No worries about overlapping market :)

But it does take people away from producing SR. Mike said so himself. And
there are questions about that since I do believe SR is now their best
selling game. Of course, I'm biased since I don't play those other games... :)


Sommers
Insert witty quote here.
Message no. 10
From: Mike and Jill Johnson shadowrn@******.net
Subject: Sigh
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 15:33:39 -0600
At 08:19 AM 9/24/99 -0400, you wrote:
>
>He does have a valid point. The second half of the year goes from July to
>Christmas. So far in the last quarter (July-September) FASA has released
>for Shadowrun...Quick Start rules. And while I think they were definitely
>needed, and have actually helped me to gain a completely new player, it is
>just a summary of the game. Not much new stuff.
>

Thank you for summing up my point perfectly. Over the last year we haven't
seen
much "new" stuff at all. Don't get me wrong I really do like 3rd edition
and am
very happy with it. However, it would have been nice if during the first
half of
the year FASA would have released Man and Machine, Cannon Compendium, and
MITS.
However we live with what we get. I just wish we would have gotten more.

>
>The last quarter of the year will see the release of Man and Machine in
>October, which should rock. Its almost definite that Corporate Punishment
>will be released. Then Year of the Comet and the Cannon Companion are
>scheduled to be released "in the fourth quarter." I expect at least one of
>them to be pushed back to 2000.
>

Wasn't Man and Machine orginally supposed to have been released by now?

>
>So far 6 months in 1999 they will have released 1 thin supplement, 1 think
>supplement, and 1 set of adventures definitely. They might have one
>campaign setting and another supplement, but at least one is going to be
>late. I book every 2 months doesn't seem like a lot at all.
>
> From the plans that we've heard, the next two years should see a big
>increase, and I'm looking forward to it.
>

I'm also looking forward to next years new releases. Year of the Comet
sounds great.
But will it be release before the middle of next year?

>
>>Vor and CS are awesome games, but they are targeted to a different public
>>than Shadowrun or Mechwarrior. No worries about overlapping market :)
>
>But it does take people away from producing SR. Mike said so himself. And
>there are questions about that since I do believe SR is now their best
>selling game. Of course, I'm biased since I don't play those other
games... :)
>

I'm not totally biased just for SR. I've enjoyed a few games of
BattleTech, and several
of FASA other games. But isn't a little "odd" that shortly after FASA
acquired Ral-Partha
they seemed to feel the need to release a miniatures oriented game (VOR)?
Although, I will
admit the game does look good. I will probably buy it, read the rules,
paint some figures, and
then like about every other non-roleplaying game I own, put it on a shelf
and never get to play
it.

>
>Sommers
>Insert witty quote here.
>
>
>

Please don't take this wrong. I'm not trying to slam FASA. I whole
heartedly support the
company. However, it would be nice to see some more support for Shadowrun.
Up untill recently
there was something for Shadowrun released approxiamatly <sp> every month.
And in some months
2 things.

Mike Johnson
Message no. 11
From: runnerpaul@*****.com runnerpaul@*****.com
Subject: Sigh
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 20:59:46 -0400 (EDT)
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At 03:33 PM 9/24/99 -0600, Mike and Jill Johnson wrote:
:Please don't take this wrong. I'm not trying to slam FASA. I whole
: heartedly support the company. However, it would be nice to see
:some more support for Shadowrun. Up untill recently there was
:something for Shadowrun released approxiamatly <sp> every month.
:And in some months 2 things.

In the decade that Shadowrun has been around, there have only been
aproximately 85 sourcebooks and/or adventure modules released. If, as
you state, there were releases every month until recently, the total
would be much closer to 120 than it actually is, would it not?

While there may have been periods where the releases have come more
frequently, the fact that there have only been around 85
sourcebooks/modules means that there have been at least some periods
of "drought" as well. This is _not_ the first time that FASA's gone a
stretch without putting out a new Shadowrun product "every month".

The sourcebooks just released, and the ones due to be released soon
have required more attention to detail than usual, and as such, are
taking a little longer to hit the shelves. Still, since Gencon '98,
we've seen the following products come out: Shadowrun Third Edition,
Renraku Arcology: Shutdown, SR3 GM Screen w/Critters booklet,
Shadowrun Companion for 3rd edition, New Seattle, Magic in the
Shadows, Corporate Download, First Run, Shadowrun Quickstart Rules.
That's nine products in thirteen months, with a tenth due out soon.
Compared to around 85 total for the past 10 years, the pace just
about matches.


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Message no. 12
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Sigh
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 10:20:10 +0200
According to Mike and Jill Johnson, at 15:33 on 24 Sep 99, the word on
the street was...

> Wasn't Man and Machine orginally supposed to have been released by now?

GenCon was the original release date, but not too long after that was
announced, they seemed to have decided it couldn't be done that fast.

> But will it be release before the middle of next year?

Not sure. I don't think Mike said anything about actual release dates (or
even rough estimates) for next year's books at GenCon. You could make an
estimate by listening to the seminar files and counting the number of
books supposed to come out next year, and spacing them evenly over the
year.

> I'm not totally biased just for SR. I've enjoyed a few games of
> BattleTech, and several of FASA other games. But isn't a little "odd"
> that shortly after FASA acquired Ral-Partha they seemed to feel the need
> to release a miniatures oriented game (VOR)?

Vor, to me, looks like it's intended, at least in part, to cash in on the
Warhammer market. If you look at the miniatures, they are a bit
reminiscent of WH40K, though with smaller weapons (thankfully...) and the
rules system is also similar to WH's.

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