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Message no. 1
From: westiex@********.net (Aramis)
Subject: Silenced Weapons
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:42:01 +1000
I was have a talk with a friend of mind and the subject of sound
suprsees weapons came up. I did a search and the following link seems to
be the best resource so far in terms of mentioning just how loud the
shot will be.

http://guns.connect.fi/gow/wildlife.html

I was figuring that someone on this list might have a link to a site in
relation to how loud silenced shots are, or even possibly a sound file
for the subject. Anyone here have anything that might help?

Aramis.
Message no. 2
From: maxnoel_fr@*****.fr (Max Noel)
Subject: Silenced Weapons
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:16:16 +0100
On Oct 25, 2004, at 18:42, Aramis wrote:

> I was figuring that someone on this list might have a link to a site
> in relation to how loud silenced shots are, or even possibly a sound
> file for the subject. Anyone here have anything that might help?

From what I've been told, silencers/suppressors don't actually silence
shots, except for very small caliber guns firing subsonic rounds (if
your round is supersonic, the sonic boom can't be suppressed). They
make them sound different. IIRC a "silenced" .45 shot sounds roughly
like someone dropping a dictionary on table.
The idea is that the sound will raise less suspicion if it doesn't
sound like an actual gunshot. BF/FA, of course, tends to defeat that
last point. Although the good news are, since the silencer also hides
the flash, you'll be much more difficult to spot; and since it extends
the barrel and makes it heavier, you will benefit from some recoil
compensation (less than 1 point in SR terms, though).

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Message no. 3
From: crowley@*********.ch (Michael Schmidt)
Subject: Silenced Weapons
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:11:19 +0200
Max Noel wrote:
>
> On Oct 25, 2004, at 18:42, Aramis wrote:
>
>> I was figuring that someone on this list might have a link to a site
>> in relation to how loud silenced shots are, or even possibly a sound
>> file for the subject. Anyone here have anything that might help?
>
>
> From what I've been told, silencers/suppressors don't actually
> silence shots, except for very small caliber guns firing subsonic rounds
> (if your round is supersonic, the sonic boom can't be suppressed). They
> make them sound different. IIRC a "silenced" .45 shot sounds roughly
> like someone dropping a dictionary on table.
> The idea is that the sound will raise less suspicion if it doesn't
> sound like an actual gunshot. BF/FA, of course, tends to defeat that
> last point. Although the good news are, since the silencer also hides
> the flash, you'll be much more difficult to spot; and since it extends
> the barrel and makes it heavier, you will benefit from some recoil
> compensation (less than 1 point in SR terms, though).

Another point for silencers with supersonic ammo is that the supersonic
crack comes from anywhere on the trajectory of the bullet, not from the
muzzle. Without the flash or the sound from the bullet leaving the
muzzle it is nearly impossible to locate the attacker, even if you know
it was a shot, i.e. bullets flying around your head, without making
trajectory analysis. And this is, in my opinion at least , a bad idea in
a fire fight.

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