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Message no. 1
From: Paul@********.demon.co.uk (Paul Jonathan Adam)
Subject: Re: Silly Grenade Launcher Question
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 11:14:28 GMT
All right, don't laugh. Can you silence a grenade launcher in Shadowrun? :)

I'd guess you could: low-pressure barrel, low-velocity projectile. Of
course, the point is that the enemy don't know where you fired from:
they will probably realise that someone just set off a grenade.

It just sort of came up and I thought I'd canvass opinions...

--
"When you have shot and killed a man, you have defined your attitude towards
him. You have offered a definite answer to a definite problem. For better
or for worse, you have acted decisively.
In fact, the next move is up to him." <R.A. Lafferty>

Paul J. Adam paul@********.demon.co.uk
Message no. 2
From: cobaltblue@********.net
Subject: Re: Silly Grenade Launcher Question
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 96 11:05:36 PST
On Sat, 03 Feb 1996 11:14:28 GMT Paul Jonathan Adam wrote:
>
>All right, don't laugh. Can you silence a grenade launcher in Shadowrun? :)
>
>I'd guess you could: low-pressure barrel, low-velocity projectile. Of
>course, the point is that the enemy don't know where you fired from:
>they will probably realise that someone just set off a grenade.
>
>It just sort of came up and I thought I'd canvass opinions...
>
>--
>"When you have shot and killed a man, you have defined your attitude towards
>him. You have offered a definite answer to a definite problem. For better
>or for worse, you have acted decisively.
> In fact, the next move is up to him." <R.A. Lafferty>
>
>Paul J. Adam paul@********.demon.co.uk
>

You probably could, but silencers tend to slow projectiles. With something like a
grenade, that would mean drastic target adjustment. Besides, grenade launchers really
make very little sound. If you're far enough away (say, 25 meters) unless the area you're
in is dead silent, they won't know what hit them. (given other modifiers, i.e. enhanced
hearing)

Cobalt Blue
Message no. 3
From: Douglas Berry <dberry@********.hooked.net>
Subject: Re: Silly Grenade Launcher Question
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 09:35:00 -0800
On Sat, 03 Feb 1996 Paul@********.demon.co.uk (Paul Jonathan Adam) said:

>
>All right, don't laugh. Can you silence a grenade launcher in Shadowrun?
:)
>
>I'd guess you could: low-pressure barrel, low-velocity projectile. Of
>course, the point is that the enemy don't know where you fired from:
>they will probably realise that someone just set off a grenade.
>
>It just sort of came up and I thought I'd canvass opinions...

Nope. First off, the round is already sub-sonic. Secondly, the powder
charge is very small. M-203 GLs make a sound similar to the popping of a
champagne cork, distinctive, but hard to hear in a firefight.

You rarely find an ambusher by sound, usually it is a visual clue (muzzle
flashes, disturbed/shot up vegataion) that gives away the ambushers'
posistion.


--
Douglas E. Berry - dberry@******.net
Gun control is hitting your target center-mass....
Message no. 4
From: Lomion <lomion@********.net>
Subject: Re: Silly Grenade Launcher Question
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:17:12 -0500
At 11:14 02/03/96 GMT, you wrote:
>
>All right, don't laugh. Can you silence a grenade launcher in Shadowrun? :)
>
>I'd guess you could: low-pressure barrel, low-velocity projectile. Of
>course, the point is that the enemy don't know where you fired from:
>they will probably realise that someone just set off a grenade.
>
>It just sort of came up and I thought I'd canvass opinions...
>
>--
>"When you have shot and killed a man, you have defined your attitude towards
>him. You have offered a definite answer to a definite problem. For better
>or for worse, you have acted decisively.
> In fact, the next move is up to him." <R.A. Lafferty>
>
>Paul J. Adam paul@********.demon.co.uk
>
Something like that would have to be a specially-designed custom weapon. I
can't see you going out and buying a grenade-silencer at the Stuffer Shack.
I think they have something in the military like that today(not sure though)
Larry
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"Unheard by the outward ear
In the heart I whisper fear;
Changing shape from hour to hour
I employ my savage power"
'Faust", Goethe
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Message no. 5
From: "'Spaceman' WD Lee" <seventh@*.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Silly Grenade Launcher Question
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 10:39:53 -0800 (PST)
On Sat, 3 Feb 1996, Paul Jonathan Adam wrote:

>
> All right, don't laugh. Can you silence a grenade launcher in Shadowrun? :)
>

If you're in a magic intensive group (like mine) you can use the
silence spell.......

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Message no. 6
From: gilean@****.muscanet.com (Kurt Montgomery)
Subject: Re: Silly Grenade Launcher Question
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:09:49 -0600
> You probably could, but silencers tend to slow projectiles. With
something like a >grenade, that would mean drastic target adjustment.
Besides, grenade launchers really >make very little sound. If you're far
enough away (say, 25 meters) unless the area >you're in is dead silent, they
won't know what hit them. (given other modifiers, i.e. >enhanced hearing)
>
>Cobalt Blue
>
>
>
And if your aim is good enough, they won't care what hit them.
Message no. 7
From: cobaltblue@********.net
Subject: Re: Silly Grenade Launcher Question
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 96 08:13:45 PST
On Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:09:49 -0600 Kurt Montgomery wrote:
>
>> You probably could, but silencers tend to slow projectiles. With
>something like a >grenade, that would mean drastic target adjustment.
>Besides, grenade launchers really >make very little sound. If you're far
>enough away (say, 25 meters) unless the area >you're in is dead silent, they
>won't know what hit them. (given other modifiers, i.e. >enhanced hearing)
>>
>>Cobalt Blue
>>
>>
>>
>And if your aim is good enough, they won't care what hit them.
>

RIGHT!!!:-);-)
Message no. 8
From: cobaltblue@********.net
Subject: Re: Silly Grenade Launcher Question
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 96 08:18:12 PST
On Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:17:12 -0500 Lomion wrote:
>>
>Something like that would have to be a specially-designed custom weapon. I
>can't see you going out and buying a grenade-silencer at the Stuffer Shack.
>I think they have something in the military like that today(not sure though)
> Larry
>
Not really, because the necessity of silencing a grenade launcher is almost nil. It
only makes a small "foof" sound, until the grenade hits its target
Message no. 9
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Silly Grenade Launcher Question
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 10:27:09 +0100
Paul Jonathan Adam said on 3 Feb 96...

> All right, don't laugh. Can you silence a grenade launcher in Shadowrun? :)
>
> I'd guess you could: low-pressure barrel, low-velocity projectile. Of
> course, the point is that the enemy don't know where you fired from:
> they will probably realise that someone just set off a grenade.

I'd say you could, provided you build a silencer large enough for it, of
course... I don't think those are sold at gun stores :) Since GLs make
little noise in the first place, it would be easier than for a pistol,
IMHO.

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