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Message no. 1
From: K is the Symbol <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Simple RP Breakthrough (Re: NjRP, and they MIGHT work)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 02:25:29 EDT
I snipped stuff after I came up with something very minor that might actually
answer the illumination problem with RP.

Interlaced Optic Lines.

Some of the threads within the RP actually have a 1 in 100 ratio of "light
spots", allowing them to have a pixellation image of "light send through".
It
might also help negate various degrees of the "Shadow" the user of the RP is
going to cast due to backlighting image problems.

Ideas, Comments...?

-K
Message no. 2
From: bryan.covington@****.COM
Subject: Re: Simple RP Breakthrough (Re: NjRP, and they MIGHT work)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 09:34:33 -0400
> I snipped stuff after I came up with something very minor that might
> actually
> answer the illumination problem with RP.
>
> Interlaced Optic Lines.
>
> Some of the threads within the RP actually have a 1 in 100 ratio of
> "light
> spots", allowing them to have a pixellation image of "light send
> through". It
> might also help negate various degrees of the "Shadow" the user of the
> RP is
> going to cast due to backlighting image problems.
>
> Ideas, Comments...?
>
Isn't this the same idea as before with fiber optics
piping light "through" things? I think we (they) decided that RP didn't
work this way but that it was theoretically possible, and much more
effective, but much more expensive.
Message no. 3
From: K is the Symbol <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Simple RP Breakthrough (Re: NjRP, and they MIGHT work)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 12:34:36 EDT
In a message dated 7/31/1998 8:35:50 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
bryan.covington@****.COM writes:

> > Interlaced Optic Lines.
> >
> > Some of the threads within the RP actually have a 1 in 100 ratio of
> > "light
> > spots", allowing them to have a pixellation image of "light send
> > through". It
> > might also help negate various degrees of the "Shadow" the user of
the
> > RP is
> > going to cast due to backlighting image problems.
> >
> > Ideas, Comments...?
> >
> Isn't this the same idea as before with fiber optics
> piping light "through" things? I think we (they) decided that RP didn't
> work this way but that it was theoretically possible, and much more
> effective, but much more expensive.

Not quite, at least not IMO. Let's take the RP as they currently stand, and
add into them an occasional optic thread. Not throughout, but only a few in a
finer weave than the RP itself. The "1 in 100" that I mentioned. For every
99 threads of RP, 1 of them is a fine line of faceted Optic Thread (not
cable). The facets would allow for light emission on a more focused level
than the standard optic line would. The 1 in 100 would mean that the density
of the light is enough to create some lighting emissions, but not anything
-really- bright (not brighter than a flashlight IMO). At the same time, given
the density, it's far enough apart as to have the illumination spread out over
an image nicely, yet tight enough so as to not create a "star pattern" on the
material itself (especially if you read the density of threads in the
description).

-K
Message no. 4
From: Adam Getchell <acgetchell@*******.EDU>
Subject: Re: Simple RP Breakthrough (Re: NjRP, and they MIGHT work)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:01:30 -0700
I'm not sure about this ...

A fiber optic pipe by its very nature has a low incidence angle (that is,
you can only be a few degrees off of perpendicular to the surface of the
pipe). That means various fibers would only be effective at certain angles.
There would have to be a *lot* of pipes to cover even a 90 degree angle.

And of course, it does nothing for thermal signature (silicate glasses tend
to be opaque to IR; gallium arsenide isn't but that's not great stuff to
make fiber optic pipes with).


At 9:34 AM -0400 7/31/98, bryan.covington@****.COM wrote:
>> I snipped stuff after I came up with something very minor that might
>> actually
>> answer the illumination problem with RP.
>>
>> Interlaced Optic Lines.
>>
>> Some of the threads within the RP actually have a 1 in 100 ratio of
>> "light
>> spots", allowing them to have a pixellation image of "light send
>> through". It
>> might also help negate various degrees of the "Shadow" the user of the
>> RP is
>> going to cast due to backlighting image problems.
>>
>> Ideas, Comments...?
>>
> Isn't this the same idea as before with fiber optics
>piping light "through" things? I think we (they) decided that RP didn't
>work this way but that it was theoretically possible, and much more
>effective, but much more expensive.

--Adam

acgetchell@*******.edu
"Invincibility is in oneself, vulnerability in the opponent." --Sun Tzu
Message no. 5
From: Adam Getchell <acgetchell@*******.EDU>
Subject: Re: Simple RP Breakthrough (Re: NjRP, and they MIGHT work)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:08:54 -0700
Not likely. Each "thread" could only cover a very small portion of the
solid angle over which your camouflage needs to be effective. You'd need an
entire secondary layer of optic lines just to give moderate coverage over a
moderate angle...


At 2:25 AM -0400 7/31/98, K is the Symbol wrote:
>I snipped stuff after I came up with something very minor that might actually
>answer the illumination problem with RP.
>
>Interlaced Optic Lines.
>
>Some of the threads within the RP actually have a 1 in 100 ratio of "light
>spots", allowing them to have a pixellation image of "light send
through". It
>might also help negate various degrees of the "Shadow" the user of the RP is
>going to cast due to backlighting image problems.
>
>Ideas, Comments...?
>
>-K



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