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Message no. 1
From: ArkAngel <DUNN@******.BITNET>
Subject: SINning
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 12:56:00 EST
In response to whoever asked: Getting a SIN is just like getting a
social security number. Most people are asssigned one at birth. In order to
get one, you'd probably need a valid birth certificate, etc. Of course, by
getting a real, honest to god, sin, the PC becomes a pawn of the
government/megacorps. The PC suddenly needs to pay income tax, etc. The
government will also want to know just where the PC is living, and crossing the
border on a real ID is just a BAD idea. Especially, if the 'runner has any
kind of rep. Basically, it's very easy to get a SIN. However, it becomes
difficult to lose it again.
Instead, what the PCs should do is talk to their fixer. For around
15KY or so, the fixer can probably set up a reasonable fake ID for each runner.
Of course, it won't survive a thorough inspection, but... Well, ya don't need
to tell the 'runners that... (Insert evil GM laughter here)

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Message no. 2
From: Richard Pieri <ratinox@***.NEU.EDU>
Subject: Re: SINning
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 13:17:24 EDT
>>>>> "A" == ArkAngel
<DUNN%jcvaxa.bitnet@*****.nic.SURFnet.nl>
>>>>> writes:

A> In response to whoever asked: Getting a SIN is just like
A> getting a social security number. Most people are asssigned one at
A> birth.

Actually, its more like getting a SSN, bank account number, credit
account number, driver's license number, etc., all rolled into one.

A> In order to get one, you'd probably need a valid birth certificate,
A> etc.

Lots more than just that. If you weren't born in a hospital with
SINner parents, then it's pretty difficult to get one. What with all
the Shadowrunners out there with fake SINs, you'd think that the
gummint would be pretty careful about fake IDs :-).

A> Of course, by getting a real, honest to god, sin, the PC becomes a
A> pawn of the government/megacorps.

Pawn? That's a bit too harsh. Slave is more like it :-).

[...]

Course, there are some benefits to being a SINner. You can work,
legally, to supplement your running income. You have a real bank
account somewhere, that collects interest. Just think of all the
mundane things that we take for granted today that you can't do
without a major credit card (big-ticket purchases, loans, rentals...).

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Message no. 3
From: Justin Kim <jlkim%ucsd.edu@****.BITNET>
Subject: Re: SINning
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 10:22:38 -0700
Waalll, I got a couple of characters with SINs. Ya just gotta be
careful to use your real SIN for only legit transactions. Both of the
characters I have with SINs have three fake ids, one at level 8, the others
between 4-6 (and let me tell you, babe, that took a chunk of starting
change!:-)).

By the way, what do you all think is the minimum level for a forged
credstick to make it useful for things other than buying stuffers? Most of
my GMs have always said 3 would do 'ya. Four for international travel.
One for stuffers. :-)

Justin

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Science Applications International Corporation Defense Analyst
San Diego, California USA
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