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Message no. 1
From: "Jason Carter, Nightstalker" <CARTER@***.EDU>
Subject: Slavery stuff and the Draft
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 19:28:16 -0700
Here we are back again. Yes boys and girls its the debate that won't end.

Burnout said we had established that spirits are entities living in astral space
before they are summoned. I missed this. Would someone give me the definitive
proof to that.

Burnout and Highlander have blasted me for using the Draft as a anology for
summoning. First of all I never said spirits were drafted. I merely said that
pulling someone from their home (assuming they already exist), keeping them on
constant call, and sending them into hazardous duty is exactly what the Draft
does in time of war. And Ed, there is a draft. Don't you remember signing up
for Selective Service. That's so the government knows were you are when draft
time comes up. Draft point cleaned up.

Burnout talks of how difficult it is for mages to summon while it's easy for
shamans. Last time I checked shamans used the exact same drain codes. I guess
that must mean shamans aren't asking too nicely. Also indentured servitude,
dispite what Burnout sayes, was not always voluntary. Many people were sold
into indentured servitude to pay debts.

Now Free Spirits are an entirely different issue. First of all I never said
Free Spirits are not intelligent. In fact they are something more than the
run of the mill spirit. What I find interesting is that before a spirit can
become a free spirit it has to have been bound (by shaman or mage). Then when
it becomes free it gains abilities and a True Name. Something obviously
happened to the spirit when it was bound. I've never heard of anything that
was taken captive or enslaved that gained powers when it was freed. Sounds like
a good argument for creation. Lastly a Free Spirit could not win a court case
for killing a mage. They have no legal rights. Thus if someone whated to
punish the spirit, they would either find its Free Name and bind it or just find
him and destroy him.

I would also like to thank Ed for seeing why I didn't let him get away with his
decker comment. Yes, I did know it was in jest, but it was so easy to use it
to paint his whole argument in a different light. Don't worry, Ed, my other
character is a decker.

See Ya in Shadows,
Jason J Carter
The Nightstalker

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