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Message no. 1
From: Strago strago@***.com
Subject: Small screw-up on my part (was Re: Move-by-friggin'-wire in M&M)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:59:04 -0500
Patrick Goodman wrote:

> From: Strago
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 8:02 AM
>
> <SNIP>

>
> > Instead you have the "it took me three hours to make this character,
> > nothing bad's ever going to happen to him/her if I have anything to
> > say about it and I'll kick and scream and whine if something does"
> > attitude that I've seen as more prevalent today.
>
> OTOH, perhaps you did say that about me, and a lot of other people. And I,
> for one, take some umbrage at that. Whatever faults I might have, I happen
> to know I'm a good role-player, and it peeves me mightily when someone who
> doesn't know me from Adam decides they can slam me and my approach to the
> game.

My apologies, I wasn't trying to slam you, I was just repeating the attitudes of
some of the people I have played with. As I said, it was in my experience.
Perhaps I should have added an "in my experience" to the end. I apologize again.

> FWIW, I was approaching it from the standpoint of most of my characters, and
> my own personal guage (that being, "What would I put in my *own* body under
> the circumstances?"). Move-By-Wire is friggin' insane; no fuckin' way would
> I put that into my own body voluntarily.
>

Well, if I or certain of my characters knew what Move-By-Wire actually did to
our body, we probably wouldn't put it in either. But as someone said, if we
didn't know what it did, we might if all we knew is that we would move faster
than everyone else.

> You don't like the way I play, or design my characters? That's fine. It's
> a free goddamn country, you do what you want. But spare me the sarcasm and
> the insults, intended or no.
>

Again, I apologize, I didn't mean to insult the way you play. Sometimes I just
like to roll dice and others I like to actually role-play. The pity is that
sometimes in the group I get to play in it seems like rolling dice wins out and
I'm not too happy about that. It was more frustration on my part than a
condemnation on what others do.

This is not just for the one person who spoke out, but for everyone who was
offended by what I wrote.

>
> --
> (>) Texas 2-Step
> El Paso: Never surrender. Never forget. Never forgive.

--
--Strago

In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder,
bloodshed - they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance.
In Switzerland they had brotherly
love, five hundred years of democracy and peace, and what did they produce? The
cuckoo clock!
-Orson Welles

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Message no. 2
From: Patrick Goodman remo@***.net
Subject: Small screw-up on my part (was Re: Move-by-friggin'-wire in M&M)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:50:41 -0600
From: Strago
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 10:59 PM

> My apologies, I wasn't trying to slam you, I was just repeating the
> attitudes of some of the people I have played with. As I said, it was
> in my experience. Perhaps I should have added an "in my experience"
> to the end. I apologize again.

Accepted, and returned. I kind of came across as a largish prick in that
message, which I wouldn't have if I'd waited before hitting "send."

--
(>) Texas 2-Step
El Paso: Never surrender. Never forget. Never forgive.

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