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Message no. 1
From: Mike Bobroff <AirWisp@***.COM>
Subject: Smart Materials Revisited ...
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 09:17:14 EST
Okay, I am proposing a change in the cost for Smart Materials ... I am tired
of it being so damn cheap ...

Vehicular Design Point Cost = Body x 100 ...
Naval Vessel Design Point Cost = Hull x 5 x 100 ...

The additional multpliers would also affect the customization nuyen cost also
...

What do you guys think ?

Mike
Message no. 2
From: Mon goose <landsquid@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Smart Materials Revisited ...
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 23:59:44 PST
>Okay, I am proposing a change in the cost for Smart Materials ... I am
tired of it being so damn cheap ...
>

They are only cheap realtive to more costly vehilce's- a smart matarials
micro-scimmer is overpriced (or just plain dumb).

Sounds like your peaved becuase most every performance vehicle would
have it, at the price listed. Is that so wrong, if its a mature
technology? I guess maybe, because its not listed on stock performance
oriented and miltary vehicles in R2.


>Vehicular Design Point Cost = Body x 100 ...
>Naval Vessel Design Point Cost = Hull x 5 x 100 ...

IMO, the actual cost of smart MATERIALS is pretty low- they are piezo
plastics and other high tech compound materials, but not that much
pricier than other engeniered materials.

OTOH, the ENGENEERING needed to design parts and such that use those
materials well, is pricey. I believe they were generally described as
self flexing laminate replacements for various vehicle structures.

Whats my point? Well, a small vehicle has more or less as many parts as
a large one. The deisgn issues are similar (easier, due to lower mass,
but similar). So lower body wouldn't save much on design, just some
materials and production costs. Stock parts and surface treatments
would alos be more "per unit" to aplly to smaller vehicles.

The numbers, the numbers... UM, maybe more like 100 x (sqrt body), to
reflect that making bigger parts only increases cost so much, since you
must pay for design and custom production in any case.

Naval vesels, I'm not so sure on, but similar principals may aplly.

OTOH, from what I know, If you start wanting REAL big custom parts, so
few people can make them, the cost goes WAY up, so you may have it
right.



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