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Message no. 1
From: AirWisp <AirWisp@***.COM>
Subject: Re : Smart Matierals and Vehicles
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 00:46:33 EST

"When all else fails, Hellblast will do just finely."
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 22:01:12 -0700
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From: Hernandez <hernandez@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Halley's Comet
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From: Wyrmy

>> Which sig, he???
>> Thwap thwap thwap thwap thwap thwap thwap thwap thwap
>It should be in this sig.Why not a big thwap.Or a bunch of little

Guess what Tyrell, it is *still* not there.

ICQ 3220365
May the god, goddess, or deity of your choice bless,
curse, or completely ignore you, as per your wishes
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 00:10:48 EST
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Message no. 2
From: The Bookworm <Thomas.M.Price@*******.EDU>
Subject: Re: Re : Smart Matierals and Vehicles
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:37:42 -0600
On Sat, Jan 03, 1998 at 10:42:09AM -0500, Steven A. Tinner wrote:
> OK, so we've established that recording ALL 5 senses to a gard drive would
> consume massive amounts of memory.
> How about if we delete a few of the senses?
> After all, does Bull really need his senses of smell and taste?
> Hearing - yes, touch - yes, sight - definately.
> But smell and taste are IMO of pretty minor when you consider that Bull's
> life is on the line!
> So let's say that we only record 3 of the five sense memory tracks of Bull's
> brain, now how much space do we need? ;-)
> Besides, I'd actually LIKE to have my memories of smell and taste "reset",
> think how cool it would be to taste things like ice cream, or smell roses
> again for the FIRST time!!
The problem I would say is, how do you seperate all this info.
Can you delete just one sense? Smell we know is closely linked
with taste. But what about the others. That is depends on how
far you think medical science has progressed, and what they've
found. IMHO you couldn't do it.

Lehlan Decker 644-4534 Systems Development
Message no. 3
From: AirWisp <AirWisp@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Re : Smart Matierals and Vehicles
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 09:16:20 EST
Mon goose wrote:
> >Perhaps the one thing getting me about this is that this method of
> propulsion would be quite slow using standard materials and robotics for
> the motion .

I stated what I tought I problem would be. Moves like fish gets mistaken
for a fish
Fish and cetiecians are faily effective mover in the water that is not
the question.
The question is will something bigger eat your snazzy little drone that
moves and thus looks like something biological just about everything in
the ocean gets eaten by something else. If you have something big enough
not to be dinner you might as well use traditional constuction from a
cost stand point exotic materials and modes of locomotion are going to
add a great deal to the cost and give a marginal proformance benifits...

Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 12:58:24 +0000
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From: Andy Gardner <A.Gardner@******.COM>
Subject: Stats & Thwaps
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Just a brief thought,
I remember somebody mentioning stats while posting in DVixens
direction. I don't know if this was real or not, or if it's real
what categories are measured, but I've got some suggestions to make
for the categories :
Bad stat : Number of Thwaps issued
Good prize : Most creative Thwap (as judged irrevocably and
unargueably by the stats compiler)

Any other suggestions for prizes ?

Fox on the Net
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:07:19 +0100
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Message no. 4
From: The Bookworm <Thomas.M.Price@*******.EDU>
Subject: Re: Re : Smart Matierals and Vehicles
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:31:01 -0600
On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, AirWisp wrote:

> In a message dated 98-01-05 11:39:00 EST, you write:
> Which would have the effect mentioned in the book about Smart Materials that
> it also increases the speed, acceleration, and load ratings of the vehicle /
> naval vessel by an additional 15% ... and I would even modify the cavitation
> speed rating by the 15% also ... and perhaps even throw in the +1 signature
> boost that a chopper gets too ...
> As for the counterwaves to offset the power-plant noise and vibrations ...
> perhaps that could be considered as part of the Signature increase mentioned
> in the the design specifications area of the vehicle creation rules ... would
> you agree also that it would have to specified which signature is being raised
> by the Signature Increase? As increasing the signature for both standard
> sensors and sonar are both two very different things ...

*sigh* i havent picked up Cyberpirates yet. A) the local gaming stores
are crap. b) i have no money after buying a new computer this Christmass.
ill take your word on the existing rules. sounds good to me

> > Of course its all moot
> > if you can track below the ambient. IE track the sub by the silent hole
> > it makes in the ambient sound of the sea. Sigh another round in measure
> > countermeasure.
> Could you provide some additional information about that ... I don't believe
> that I have ever heard anything on that subject before ...

Ok. I dont think they have managed to get this to work yet but here is
the theory as i understand it. 1) the ocean is full of ambient sound
such as wales, waves, far off ships, ect. 2) a ship normaly puts out
noise that covers that ambient sound and is easy to detect. 3) if your
ship does not put out any noise you will probaly block the ambient noise
from transmitting through you. 4) so if you can track below ambient you
look for the hole in the wall of noise. It wont be a total blank spot
just a spot that happens to be a lot softer than normal. If you could
combine that technology with MAD and other sensors you might have a VERY
efective sensor suite.

Thomas Price
aka The Bookworm

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