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Message no. 1
From: Paul Gettle RunnerPaul@*****.com
Subject: Snake Eyes Helmet
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 22:55:47 -0500
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On Sun, 7 Mar 1999 14:13:04 -0600 "D.Ghost" writes:
>What about instead of implanting it (the Snake Eyes), imbedding in a
>helmet or something? That should, IMO, make it cheaper too. :)

(Sorry for digging out a very old post, but I was poking through the
archive looking for posts that I lost while upgrading my hardware,
plus any interesting threads that I missed.)

Here's an idea for a really neat helmet mounted sensor package: Take a
Body 0 Electric drone (Chassis type doesn't really matter, as the
motors are going to be stripped out for this particular design).

Body 0 drones only have the CF for a Level 1 Sensor package, but there
are the rules for Adding/Upgrading components on p.27 of R2. Depending
on how much cash you want to lay out, theoretically, you can upgrade
it to have all the sensors toys: rangefinders, ultrasound and laser
proximity detectors, video, basic radar, signature recognition
software, low-light imaging, telescopic magnification, thermographic
imaging, and flare comp.

Customize a helmet for this "Sensor Package" drone to fit in, and you
now have an essence friendly alternative to the snake eyes system.
Plus, there are options that just don't seem to have cyberware
equivalents, such as radar, or the option to add an IPA ClearSight
Autosoft.

If the Rigger riding the RC network these sensor helemets are
subscribed to has a high DFR datajack from Shadowtech, and the helmets
are all equipped with high level ClearSight Autosofts, then she gets
an almost disgusting amount of bonus dice to roll for perception
tests, and she can make those tests from the point of view of any
teammate's helmet. The benefits for tactical coordination are obvious.

Speaking about tactics, one might consider piping the sensors feeds
from one of these helmets through a datajack and into a headware
Tactical Computer. This would be an essence-friendly alternative to
getting all the senses cybered up to boost the efficency of the
TacComp.

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Message no. 2
From: GRANITE granite@**.net
Subject: Snake Eyes Helmet
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 00:34:43 -0700
Hmm..sounds a little bit like bending the rules a bit to me..but
there is no good reason this would not work....

> it to have all the sensors toys: ....... basic radar,.......

This is the main option I would omit..or rather suggest be
omitted..because I as an EGM would allow this bit quicker that a lot
of other options..because use of a radar in such close proximitty to
the brain..should pretty much cook it..or at least cause cancer..
--------------------------------GRANITE
"Rock Steady"
==============================================Lord, Grant Me The Serenity To Accept The
Things I Cannot Change,
The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
And The Wisdom To Hide The Bodies Of Those People I Had To Kill
Because They Pissed Me Off.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ShadowRunner's Serenity Prayer
==============================================Understanding is a three edged sword. - Kosh
What is best in life?
To Crush Your Enemies,
See Them Driven Before You,
And To Hear The Lamentation Of Their Women. -Conan
I Am The LAW! -JD
Jamais Arriere
Message no. 3
From: GRANITE granite@**.net
Subject: Snake Eyes Helmet
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 00:34:43 -0700
Hmm..sounds a little bit like bending the rules a bit to me..but
there is no good reason this would not work....

> it to have all the sensors toys: ....... basic radar,.......

This is the main option I would omit..or rather suggest be
omitted..because I as an EGM would allow this bit quicker that a lot
of other options..because use of a radar in such close proximitty to
the brain..should pretty much cook it..or at least cause cancer..
--------------------------------GRANITE
"Rock Steady"
==============================================Lord, Grant Me The Serenity To Accept The
Things I Cannot Change,
The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
And The Wisdom To Hide The Bodies Of Those People I Had To Kill
Because They Pissed Me Off.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ShadowRunner's Serenity Prayer
==============================================Understanding is a three edged sword. - Kosh
What is best in life?
To Crush Your Enemies,
See Them Driven Before You,
And To Hear The Lamentation Of Their Women. -Conan
I Am The LAW! -JD
Jamais Arriere
Message no. 4
From: Paul Gettle RunnerPaul@*****.com
Subject: Snake Eyes Helmet
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:38:11 -0500
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At 12:34 AM 3/19/99 -0700, GRANITE wrote:
>Hmm..sounds a little bit like bending the rules a bit to me..but
>there is no good reason this would not work....

It's no more a bending the rules than the rules for the Sentry II gun
system were. I figure that if there's a canon example of a stationary
drone, then this should be kosher too.

>> it to have all the sensors toys: ....... basic radar,.......
>
>This is the main option I would omit..or rather suggest be
>omitted..because I as an EGM would allow this bit quicker that a lot
>of other options..because use of a radar in such close proximitty to
>the brain..should pretty much cook it..or at least cause cancer..

Any drone or vehicle with a Sensor rating of 1 or higher has radar.
How long would it take for radar to "cook" a brain, in your opinion?
We might have a new mode of attack for drones now. Forget the guns,
just land the rotor drone on top of the target's head and radar him.
:)


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Message no. 5
From: GRANITE granite@**.net
Subject: Snake Eyes Helmet
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:51:26 -0700
> >the brain..should pretty much cook it..or at least cause cancer..
> Any drone or vehicle with a Sensor rating of 1 or higher has radar.
> How long would it take for radar to "cook" a brain, in your opinion?

Well..that is in direct relationship with the power of the radar..In
my experience..I have seen the birds that flew in front of the radar
on our ship..they died immediately..And then there are the brain
cancers and testicular cancers being reported by Law
Enforcement..from officers that have used hand held and dash mounted
radar units..So..as an EGM I would take that all into account when
figuring how much it is used by the PC and how quickly detrimental
affects should be felt..It would have to be a judgement call rather
than a hard fast -it takes this long-

> We might have a new mode of attack for drones now. Forget the guns,
> just land the rotor drone on top of the target's head and radar him.
> :)

LOL..yea..I suppose that might work ;)
--------------------------------GRANITE
"Rock Steady"
==============================================Lord, Grant Me The Serenity To Accept The
Things I Cannot Change,
The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
And The Wisdom To Hide The Bodies Of Those People I Had To Kill
Because They Pissed Me Off.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ShadowRunner's Serenity Prayer
==============================================Understanding is a three edged sword. - Kosh
What is best in life?
To Crush Your Enemies,
See Them Driven Before You,
And To Hear The Lamentation Of Their Women. -Conan
I Am The LAW! -JD
Jamais Arriere
Message no. 6
From: Paul Gettle RunnerPaul@*****.com
Subject: Snake Eyes Helmet
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 21:39:33 -0500
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At 12:51 PM 3/19/99 -0700, GRANITE wrote:
>> >the brain..should pretty much cook it..or at least cause cancer..
>> Any drone or vehicle with a Sensor rating of 1 or higher has radar.
>> How long would it take for radar to "cook" a brain, in your
opinion?
>
>Well..that is in direct relationship with the power of the radar..In
>my experience..

Seeing as this is going to be a helmet mounted device, it's going to
be a lightweight, and not too powerful. Looking up the stats, a
Sensor-1 has a Flux Rating of 2, giving the radar a maximum range of
2km. I really don't think you'd be able to heat up your TV Dinner on
it.


>And then there are the brain
>cancers and testicular cancers being reported by Law
>Enforcement..from officers that have used hand held and dash mounted
>radar units..So..as an EGM I would take that all into account when
>figuring how much it is used by the PC and how quickly detrimental
>affects should be felt..

Then of course there are the GMs who wouldn't even bother the players,
simply because average runner lifespan in their games isn't long
enough for a long term cancer to develop. :)


The description of the Sentry Gun in Fields of Fire mentions "pulsed
radar". This sort of radar would be less likely to cause detrimental
effects than a continuous beam radar, IMO. Perhaps that sort of radar
could be used here; after all if it's good enough for Sentry Gun
targeting, it should serve for this purpose quite nicely.

Another thing to consider would be what the SOTA in EM shielding is by
2060. If nothing else, maybe the helmet could be lined with Radar
Absorbent Materials, to help shield the wearer from the harmful
emissions.


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At 12:51 PM 3/19/99 -0700, GRANITE wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;the brain..should pretty much cook it..or at least cause
cancer.. <br>
&gt;&gt; Any drone or vehicle with a Sensor rating of 1 or higher has
radar.<br>
&gt;&gt; How long would it take for radar to &quot;cook&quot; a brain, in
your<br>
opinion?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Well..that is in direct relationship with the power of the radar..In
<br>
&gt;my experience..<br>
<br>
Seeing as this is going to be a helmet mounted device, it's going
to<br>
be a lightweight, and not too powerful. Looking up the stats, a<br>
Sensor-1 has a Flux Rating of 2, giving the radar a maximum range
of<br>
2km. I really don't think you'd be able to heat up your TV Dinner
on<br>
it.<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt;And then there are the brain <br>
&gt;cancers and testicular cancers being reported by Law <br>
&gt;Enforcement..from officers that have used hand held and dash mounted
<br>
&gt;radar units..So..as an EGM I would take that all into account when
<br>
&gt;figuring how much it is used by the PC and how quickly detrimental
<br>
&gt;affects should be felt..<br>
<br>
Then of course there are the GMs who wouldn't even bother the
players,<br>
simply because average runner lifespan in their games isn't long<br>
enough for a long term cancer to develop.&nbsp; :)<br>
<br>
<br>
The description of the Sentry Gun in Fields of Fire mentions
&quot;pulsed<br>
radar&quot;. This sort of radar would be less likely to cause
detrimental<br>
effects than a continuous beam radar, IMO. Perhaps that sort of
radar<br>
could be used here; after all if it's good enough for Sentry Gun<br>
targeting, it should serve for this purpose quite nicely.<br>
<br>
Another thing to consider would be what the SOTA in EM shielding is
by<br>
2060. If nothing else, maybe the helmet could be lined with Radar<br>
Absorbent Materials, to help shield the wearer from the harmful<br>
emissions.<br>
<br>
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