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Message no. 1
From: "Ratinac, Rand (NSW)" <RRatinac@*****.REDCROSS.ORG.AU>
Subject: Re: Something about allergies to paper...(was RE: Two handed mele
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:11:51 +1000
> <RRatinac@*****.REDCROSS.ORG.AU> writes:
> <SNIP>
> >Hey...here's a thought. Paper is processed wood, right? So what if
> you
> >don't process it so much (leave out all the artificial junk) and a
> >vampire picks up some of that paper and gives himself a paper cut.
> It's
> >wood (technically), so does that mean he can't regenerate that paper
> cut
> >and may, eventually, bleed to death? :)
> <SNIP>
>
> Vampires regenerate from all wounds ... even those from vulnerbilities
> and allergies.
> D. Ghost
>
Sorry, my mistake (if you're right, which I can't say right now). I know
that they don't regenerate from wounds inflicted by a weapon focus,
however.

Sooo...for argument's sake, let's enchant that sheet of paper. Would
THAT paper cut kill a vampire then?

*Doc' worries at a stupid question like a rabid dog, just cuz he's
tickled his curiousity-bone.*

Doc'

.sig Sauer
Message no. 2
From: "D. Ghost" <dghost@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Something about allergies to paper...(was RE: Two handed mele
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:23:00 -0600
On Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:11:51 +1000 "Ratinac, Rand (NSW)"
<RRatinac@*****.REDCROSS.ORG.AU> writes:
<SNIP>
>> Vampires regenerate from all wounds ... even those from vulnerbilities
>> and allergies.
>> D. Ghost

>Sorry, my mistake (if you're right, which I can't say right now). I know
>that they don't regenerate from wounds inflicted by a weapon focus,
however.
>
>Sooo...for argument's sake, let's enchant that sheet of paper. Would
>THAT paper cut kill a vampire then?

Nope. Sorry. Vampires regenerate from damage inflicted by weapon foci.
However, if a vampire takes deadly damage from a weapon foci, then the
vampire checks to see if the foci kills him/her/it. If THAT doesn't kill
the vampire, then the vampire makes the normal regeneration test to see
if it dies cuz of neural damage. (See page 138 of SR2 ... this is not in
SR3 so I don't know if it has changed ...)

--
D. Ghost
(aka Pixel, Tantrum, RuPixel)
"Coffee without caffeine is like sex without the spanking." -- Cupid
re-cur-sion (ri-kur'-zhen) noun. 1. See recursion.

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Message no. 3
From: "Ratinac, Rand (NSW)" <RRatinac@*****.REDCROSS.ORG.AU>
Subject: Re: Something about allergies to paper...(was RE: Two handed mele
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:44:59 +1000
> >> Vampires regenerate from all wounds ... even those from
> vulnerbilities
> >> and allergies.
> >> D. Ghost
>
> >Sorry, my mistake (if you're right, which I can't say right now). I
> know
> >that they don't regenerate from wounds inflicted by a weapon focus,
> however.
> >
> >Sooo...for argument's sake, let's enchant that sheet of paper. Would
> >THAT paper cut kill a vampire then?
>
> Nope. Sorry. Vampires regenerate from damage inflicted by weapon
> foci. However, if a vampire takes deadly damage from a weapon foci,
> then the vampire checks to see if the foci kills him/her/it. If THAT
> doesn't kill the vampire, then the vampire makes the normal
> regeneration test to see if it dies cuz of neural damage. (See page
> 138 of SR2 ... this is not in SR3 so I don't know if it has changed
> ...)
> D. Ghost
>
No offense intended, but I'm SURE that's wrong. Magical weapons negate
regeneration powers for all creatures, including vampires, as I recall.
Any wounds inflicted by weapon foci must be healed the same as for
normal Joes and a deadly wound will automatically kill the vampire (if
he takes enough overflow damage, of course), because he can't regenerate
it. At least, that's how I think it works.

Can someone check us on this?

*Doc' tries to goad a vampire into killing him so he can try out his
non-regenerating-enchanted-paper-cut theory on himself.*

Doc'

.silly - very silly - Sauer
Message no. 4
From: Bob Tockley <zzdeden@*******.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Something about allergies to paper...(was RE: Two handed mele
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 11:57:59 +1000
>No offense intended, but I'm SURE that's wrong. Magical weapons negate
>regeneration powers for all creatures, including vampires, as I recall.
>Any wounds inflicted by weapon foci must be healed the same as for
>normal Joes and a deadly wound will automatically kill the vampire (if
>he takes enough overflow damage, of course), because he can't regenerate
>it. At least, that's how I think it works.
>
>Can someone check us on this?
>
>*Doc' tries to goad a vampire into killing him so he can try out his
>non-regenerating-enchanted-paper-cut theory on himself.*

Hate to say it Doc but D. Ghost is correct. Regeneration is effectively
negated by weapon foci - hence the test to see if the critter is killed
outright when it takes a Deadly wound. Otherwise, the critter heals from
it normally.

- ARKHAM
"A mind is a terrible thing to waste somebody with..."

ARKHAM'S ASYLUM ( http://www.ozemail.com.au/~zzdeden/shadowrun/ )
Message no. 5
From: "Ratinac, Rand (NSW)" <RRatinac@*****.REDCROSS.ORG.AU>
Subject: Re: Something about allergies to paper...(was RE: Two handed mele
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:20:03 +1000
> >No offense intended, but I'm SURE that's wrong. Magical weapons
> negate
> >regeneration powers for all creatures, including vampires, as I
> recall.
> >Any wounds inflicted by weapon foci must be healed the same as for
> >normal Joes and a deadly wound will automatically kill the vampire
> (if
> >he takes enough overflow damage, of course), because he can't
> regenerate
> >it. At least, that's how I think it works.
> >
> >Can someone check us on this?
> >
> >*Doc' tries to goad a vampire into killing him so he can try out his
> >non-regenerating-enchanted-paper-cut theory on himself.*
>
> Hate to say it Doc but D. Ghost is correct. Regeneration is
> effectively negated by weapon foci - hence the test to see if the
> critter is killed outright when it takes a Deadly wound. Otherwise,
> the critter heals from it normally.
> - ARKHAM
>
Huh. Better re-read that then.

*Doc' goes back to the drawing board.*

Doc'

.sig Sauer
Message no. 6
From: K in the Shadows <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Something about allergies to paper...(was RE: Two handed mele
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 00:32:15 EST
In a message dated 11/17/1998 8:45:20 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
RRatinac@*****.REDCROSS.ORG.AU writes:

> No offense intended, but I'm SURE that's wrong. Magical weapons negate
> regeneration powers for all creatures, including vampires, as I recall.
> Any wounds inflicted by weapon foci must be healed the same as for
> normal Joes and a deadly wound will automatically kill the vampire (if
> he takes enough overflow damage, of course), because he can't regenerate
> it. At least, that's how I think it works.

Well Doc, this is one of those times I will simply have to say that he's
correct. As the rules stand, and even on the correctly quoted pages.

> Can someone check us on this?

I know you won't be satisfied ... ;p

> *Doc' tries to goad a vampire into killing him so he can try out his
> non-regenerating-enchanted-paper-cut theory on himself.*

I have this friend who thinks he's a Vampire, I could introduce you, he could
bite you. I don't think you'd become one, but I bet it would hurt... :)

-K

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