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Message no. 1
From: red redmtl@**********.com
Subject: Somewhat morall question
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:10:38 -0800 (PST)
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your help is thanked, let it be know first that this chick asked me to kill this guys
chacter. sheplays a mage and hased refused to cast a heal spell on the pore guy. (After a
fight of legitament dammage)..............ANyway, i would thank you not to toss around the
word petty on a forum containing Roleplayers, aren't we all that week of soul???????????


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your help is thanked, let it be know first that this chick asked me to kill this guys
chacter. sheplays a mage and hased refused to cast a heal spell on the pore guy.
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Message no. 2
From: Max 'Wild_Cat' Noel maxnoel_fr@*****.fr
Subject: Somewhat morall question
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:28:30 +0100
> let it be know first that this chick asked me to kill this guys chacter.
> sheplays a mage and hased refused to cast a heal spell on the pore guy.
> (After a fight of legitament dammage)

Ouch. That sucks. Though technically she has the right to let the
guy die, you should first talk to her about not mixing RPGs with RL (since
it looks like that's what she's doing...). But *if* her character has a
valid reason to refuse casting the spell (they're part of the same team, so
it's unlikely...) well... it's up to you. Ask the player : if he's grown
tired of this char, then don't hesitate : let him die. Else, you could use
your GM powers to try keeping him alive. Make NPC's not attack him at all,
or with stunning weapons... You'll find a way.

Wild_Cat
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Message no. 3
From: Sinabian@***.com Sinabian@***.com
Subject: Somewhat morall question
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:30:58 EST
In a message dated 11/11/2000 1:11:19 PM Mountain Standard Time,
redmtl@**********.com writes:

> your help is thanked, let it be know first that this chick asked me to kill
> this guys chacter. sheplays a mage and hased refused to cast a heal spell
on
> the pore guy. (After a fight of legitament dammage)..............ANyway, i
> would thank you not to toss around the word petty on a forum containing
> Roleplayers, aren't we all that week of soul???????????


Hmmm...that makes it a little tougher. :Let me offer up some hard-earned
advice. If "he" can't trust her, then neither should you. Just personal
experience here. Take it with as many grains of salt as you want, especially
from me, the asshole of the hour. ::cheesy grin:: It's still my personal
opinion though that that sort of thing crosses that line between RP and RL.
The choice is yours, ultimately, but personally I still wouldn't. By the way,
sorry about the spelling comment. It wasn't specifically aimed at you, but it
was still bad form.
Message no. 4
From: Wagemage wagemage@**.rr.com
Subject: Somewhat morall question
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 02:23:58 -0500
>Else, you could use
>your GM powers to try keeping him alive. Make NPC's not attack him at all,
>or with stunning weapons... You'll find a way.

Honestly this sounds as bad as killing him off to me. It's just as
unfair and heavy handed, but here the unfairness is to the rest of the
party. I say roll the dice and let the bullets hit where they may. If the
people involved have RL problems then, as has been said before, handle them
in RL not in the game.

It may come down to the fact that these two people just cannot game
together. I've been in that spot before (only time I seriously considered
murder, and of course it's over stupid shit like roleplaying), it's tough.
But unless the real world problems get dealt with I think the in game ones
are gonna continue.
Message no. 5
From: Paul Collins paulcollins@*******.com
Subject: Somewhat morall question
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 20:11:14 +1100
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<Avoids the line down the side crap>

It sounds to me like he will manage to get himself killed fairly soon since some of the
party don't like him. I think I would just let things resolve themselves, and not go out
of my way. Although, putting them on a tougher than normal run would probably have the
desired effect.


Annachie
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From: red
To: shadowrn@*********.com
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: Somewhat morall question


your help is thanked, let it be know first that this chick asked me to kill this guys
chacter. sheplays a mage and hased refused to cast a heal spell on the pore guy. (After a
fight of legitament dammage)..............ANyway, i would thank you not to toss around the
word petty on a forum containing Roleplayers, aren't we all that week of soul???????????


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<DIV><FONT size=2>It sounds to me like he will manage to get himself
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let things resolve themselves, and not go out of my way.&nbsp; Although, putting
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<DIV>your help is thanked, let it be know first that this chick asked me to
kill this guys chacter. sheplays a mage and hased refused to cast a heal spell
on the pore&nbsp;guy. (After a fight of legitament
dammage)..............ANyway, i would thank you not to toss around the word
petty on a forum containing Roleplayers, aren't we all that week of
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Message no. 6
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Somewhat morall question
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 12:44:33 +0100
According to Max 'Wild_Cat' Noel, on Sat, 11 Nov 2000 the word on the street was...

> Ouch. That sucks. Though technically she has the right to let the
> guy die, you should first talk to her about not mixing RPGs with RL (since
> it looks like that's what she's doing...). But *if* her character has a
> valid reason to refuse casting the spell (they're part of the same team, so
> it's unlikely...)

I wouldn't say that too soon... In my group, it's more the rule than the
exception that the characters can't get along with each other. For some
reason that hasn't stopped them from saving each other's lives when they
needed to, though. (At least, not very often :)

> well... it's up to you. Ask the player : if he's grown tired of this
> char, then don't hesitate : let him die.

Why would the GM need to kill off a character that the player doesn't want
to play anymore? You can if you want to, but it's just as easy for the
player to retire the character in some other way -- all it takes is
something along the lines of "Guys, I don't want to run the shadows
anymore. See you later." and creating a new character.

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Message no. 7
From: Andrew Gryphon webmaster@*********.com
Subject: Somewhat morall question
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 16:45:55 -0600
on 11/12/00 1:23 AM, Wagemage at wagemage@**.rr.com can't deny saying:

> I've been in that spot before (only time I seriously considered
> murder, and of course it's over stupid shit like roleplaying)

Wagemage, remind me never to game with you. :^]

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Message no. 8
From: Lady Jestyr jestyr@*********.html.com
Subject: Somewhat morall question
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 23:10:27 +1000
At 02:23 AM 12/11/00 -0500, Wagemage wrote:

>murder, and of course it's over stupid shit like roleplaying), it's tough.

"Stupid shit like roleplaying"?!

Wash your mouth out, young man! Blasphemy!

(To think, someone calling roleplaying stupid... sheesh, next they'll be
asking me to stop breathing...)

<g>

Lady Jestyr
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