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Message no. 1
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Pepe Barbe)
Subject: Spell Creation
Date: Tue Aug 14 16:40:01 2001
Hello,

I was wondering if any of you guys could help me out designing a Spell I
had in mind.

I was thinking about a telekinetic manipulation spell, that would levitate
constantly moving knifes into the air around a caracter like a barrier for
unarmed combat basically that would deal damage on the oponent.

How would it work? Could the knife be targeted to the oponent also?

Pepe
Message no. 2
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Michael Choiniere)
Subject: Spell Creation
Date: Tue Aug 14 22:25:01 2001
> Hello,
>
> I was wondering if any of you guys could help me out designing a Spell I
> had in mind.
>
> I was thinking about a telekinetic manipulation spell, that would levitate
> constantly moving knifes into the air around a caracter like a barrier for
> unarmed combat basically that would deal damage on the oponent.
>
> How would it work? Could the knife be targeted to the oponent also?
>
> Pepe
>



methinks you'd probably do good mimicking the firewall spell.... I'd
actually make it have less drain as it wouldn't have secondary elemental
effects of fire.... it'd give partial cover... damage any who touched
it... or you could even leave the drain the same and make the damage it
does even greater... :-) those are just some suggestions.... but the
BEST thing you could do is get MitS and check out spell creation there..
Message no. 3
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Pepe Barbe)
Subject: Spell Creation
Date: Wed Aug 15 02:40:01 2001
At 09:22 p.m. 14/08/2001, Michael Choiniere wrote:
>BEST thing you could do is get MitS and check out spell creation there..

I have Mits. Just I am puzzled about how would be the approach to the
spell. I want it to be a levitate effect on real knifes spinning in the
air. The Damage Code would be of the actual knifes? I was thinking of a
very restricted area spell. Would I be able to throw just one of the
knifes? What if I have more or less knifes ...

That is what I really don't know who to picture ...

Pepe
Message no. 4
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: Spell Creation
Date: Wed Aug 15 05:00:13 2001
According to Pepe Barbe, on Tue, 14 Aug 2001 the word on the street was...

> I was thinking about a telekinetic manipulation spell, that would levitate
> constantly moving knifes into the air around a caracter like a barrier for
> unarmed combat basically that would deal damage on the oponent.
>
> How would it work? Could the knife be targeted to the oponent also?

I'd call this an area-effect spell, into which you'd need to toss a number
of knives to make it work (or, since it's a manipulation spell, you could
say it creates knife-like items in its area of effect). You could use the
Force of the spell as its Strength, and set the damage at the base of the
knife used (L for normal knives, M for those Fineblade ones, etc.), staged
up by the number of successes rolled by the caster. For example, a Force 4
spell with 3 successes using normal knives would cause 4M damage: 4L base,
staged up to M by the successes. Anyone coming into the spell's area of
effect then needs to resist that damage.

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Message no. 5
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Keith Duthie)
Subject: Spell Creation
Date: Wed Aug 15 07:25:00 2001
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Gurth wrote:

> I'd call this an area-effect spell, into which you'd need to toss a number
> of knives to make it work (or, since it's a manipulation spell, you could
> say it creates knife-like items in its area of effect). You could use the
> Force of the spell as its Strength, and set the damage at the base of the
> knife used (L for normal knives, M for those Fineblade ones, etc.), staged
> up by the number of successes rolled by the caster. For example, a Force 4
> spell with 3 successes using normal knives would cause 4M damage: 4L base,
> staged up to M by the successes. Anyone coming into the spell's area of
> effect then needs to resist that damage.

Perhaps roll a number of dice equal to the number of knives against a
target number of 4 to see if anyone coming too close actually does get
hit.

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Message no. 6
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Chris Maxfield)
Subject: Spell Creation
Date: Wed Aug 15 10:30:01 2001
Records show that on Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Pepe Barbe scribbled:
> I was thinking about a telekinetic manipulation spell, that would levitate
> constantly moving knifes into the air around a caracter like a barrier for
> unarmed combat basically that would deal damage on the oponent.
>
> How would it work? Could the knife be targeted to the oponent also?

It seems to me that you're using as inspiration something like the
area-effect telekinetic manipulation spell Poltergeist to design a small
barrier that specifically uses knives. I'd say this knife barrier does as
base the knives's damage level with the power of their damage equal to the
force of the spell. Like Poltergeist, it should be resisted by Quickness.
I'd guess and say the magician needs eight knives to fully protect a human
sized recipient, and for every one less knife below this number the
barrier's damage power is reduced by one, to a minimum of two. I haven't
checked MITS to see if this is possible. :-)

Chris
Message no. 7
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Shiro BsquLadat)
Subject: Spell Creation
Date: Wed Aug 15 15:55:00 2001
--- Chris Maxfield <cmaxfiel@****.org.au> wrote:
> It seems to me that you're using as inspiration
> something like the
> area-effect telekinetic manipulation spell
> Poltergeist to design a small
> barrier that specifically uses knives. I'd say this
> knife barrier does as
> base the knives's damage level with the power of
> their damage equal to the
> force of the spell. Like Poltergeist, it should be
> resisted by Quickness.
> I'd guess and say the magician needs eight knives to
> fully protect a human
> sized recipient, and for every one less knife below
> this number the
> barrier's damage power is reduced by one, to a
> minimum of two. I haven't
> checked MITS to see if this is possible. :-)
>
> Chris

That was exactly what I had in mind.Yes you can
make one and you would have to use the Caster option
described in page 56 of magic in the shadows.

====-It didn't look so big in paper!!!!
-Ideas grow,Shiro.Sometimes bigger than life!

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Message no. 8
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Jason Spadaro)
Subject: Spell Creation
Date: Wed Aug 15 17:20:01 2001
Than Gurth, the chunker may be going to a decker I have. :)

Also, Pepe, with the knife spell you may want variable drain based on
damage dealt, # of knives, etc. :)

-Cthulhupunk
Message no. 9
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: Spell Creation
Date: Thu Aug 16 05:25:08 2001
According to Shiro BsquLadat, on Wed, 15 Aug 2001 the word on the street
was...

> That was exactly what I had in mind.Yes you can
> make one and you would have to use the Caster option
> described in page 56 of magic in the shadows.

Why would you be required to make the spell affect the caster only? It
seems to me that it would be easy enough to design it so that you can also
cast it on someone else, to protect them.

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Message no. 10
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Shiro BsquLadat)
Subject: Spell Creation
Date: Fri Aug 17 20:00:01 2001
--- Gurth <Gurth@******.nl> wrote:
> Why would you be required to make the spell affect
> the caster only? It
> seems to me that it would be easy enough to design
> it so that you can also
> cast it on someone else, to protect them.

Because he was asking for a spell to protect him in
combat and because this way he would have minimum
drain.
Also I don't think that it should have variable drain
level since the damage level is based entirely on the
knifes and the power of the attack on the spell like
all similar spell (levitate,etc).By giving it a
variable damage level you make the spell too powerfull.

====-It didn't look so big in paper!!!!
-Ideas grow,Shiro.Sometimes bigger than life!

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Message no. 11
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: Spell Creation
Date: Sat Aug 18 07:25:13 2001
According to Shiro BsquLadat, on Sat, 18 Aug 2001 the word on the street
was...

> Because he was asking for a spell to protect him in
> combat and because this way he would have minimum
> drain.

Well, yes; the reason I asked is because of the way you said it, it made it
seem as if you only saw the spell as viable if it used the Caster Only
option.

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