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Message no. 1
From: John Stawarz aka Chaos Manager <jstawarz@******.GMU.EDU>
Subject: Spell Force
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 15:41:50 -0400
I can't find this in the book (maybe I missed it. Hey, novel idea!!).
But, I've assumed it to be true. If you have a Force 7 spell, can you
only cast it at Force 7, or can it be cast at a lower Force? Say I have
a Force 7 Fireball. Could it be cast at Force 4? Or would I have to
learn Fireball at Force 4? I've assumed the former until now, but one
of my players has called me on it. Since I cannot find a reference in
the rules (Grim1, Grim2, SRII, or SRI), I thought that I would go to the
next best source. Comments? Ideas? Snide remarks?

Tanx (oops should be tan2x = sec2x - 1) 8)

Ah, that's what I get for taking Calculus for 4 hours a day... 8P
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Message no. 2
From: Bryan Prince <WALAB@******.HH.VANDERBILT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Spell Force
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 16:06:04 -0600
The chaos manager writes--
IF you have a Force 7 spell can you cast it at a lower Force (ie 4) or
do you have to learn it at a 4 first? (my paraphrase)
p 128 SRII Under the Bold FORCE heading, states:"Magicians learn spells at
a specific Force. They voluntarily can cast the spell at a lower,reduced Force,
but can never cast the spell at a higher Force than what they have learned."
Here is your answer, chummer. Get those purveyors of GM confusion*grin*.

And NOOOOOOO! Not CALCULUS, Anything but CALCULUS! ARRRGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
*shoots self with Manhunter-a cleaner death, trust me *grin**
Bryan Prince
Message no. 3
From: Jai Tao <jdfalk@****.CAIS.COM>
Subject: Re: Spell Force
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 17:07:13 -0400
On Fri, 10 Jun 1994, John Stawarz aka Chaos Manager wrote:

> I can't find this in the book (maybe I missed it. Hey, novel idea!!).
> But, I've assumed it to be true. If you have a Force 7 spell, can you
> only cast it at Force 7, or can it be cast at a lower Force? Say I have
> a Force 7 Fireball. Could it be cast at Force 4? Or would I have to
> learn Fireball at Force 4? I've assumed the former until now, but one
> of my players has called me on it. Since I cannot find a reference in
> the rules (Grim1, Grim2, SRII, or SRI), I thought that I would go to the
> next best source. Comments? Ideas? Snide remarks?
>
Well, I'd give you page references, except that I can't even find
the book right now!
However, the answer to your question is yes, according to all the
Shadowrun players nearby (100% of whom have played mages for at least one
session, including me.) You can cast the spell with less force if you
want to...in fact, there are many times when you would _not_ want to use
the full avaliable force of, say, Power Bolt.

"Freeze on the picture, hang sharp on the sound
Catch the waking edge /-----------------\
another time." | Jai Tao |
-Jethro Tull | jdfalk@****.com |
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Message no. 4
From: Will Cottrell <UGCOTTRE@******.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Spell Force
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 21:01:48 EDT
Sorry, but I can't replay the original letter.

pg. 128 SRII
"Magicians learn spells at a specific force. They voluntarily can
cast the spell at a lower, reduced force, but can never cast the spell
at a higher Force than what they have learned."

This should answer the question. :-)

Will
Message no. 5
From: Ivy Ryan <ivyryan@***.ORG>
Subject: Re: Spell Force
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 20:37:56 -0700
On Fri, 10 Jun 1994, John Stawarz aka Chaos Manager wrote:

> I can't find this in the book (maybe I missed it. Hey, novel idea!!).
> But, I've assumed it to be true. If you have a Force 7 spell, can you
> only cast it at Force 7, or can it be cast at a lower Force? Say I have
> a Force 7 Fireball. Could it be cast at Force 4? Or would I have to
> learn Fireball at Force 4? I've assumed the former until now, but one
> of my players has called me on it. Since I cannot find a reference in
> the rules (Grim1, Grim2, SRII, or SRI), I thought that I would go to the
> next best source. Comments? Ideas? Snide remarks?
>

SRII Rulebook, pg. 128, left column, second paragraph under the (bolded)
Force. That covers it to a tee.

Ivy
Message no. 6
From: John Stawarz aka Chaos Manager <jstawarz@******.GMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Spell Force
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 13:00:41 -0400
> The chaos manager writes--
> IF you have a Force 7 spell can you cast it at a lower Force (ie 4) or
> do you have to learn it at a 4 first? (my paraphrase)
> p 128 SRII Under the Bold FORCE heading, states:"Magicians learn spells at
> a specific Force. They voluntarily can cast the spell at a lower,reduced Force,

Merci! I thought I must have missed it, but couldn' rememeber where...
8P. Thanks.

> but can never cast the spell at a higher Force than what they have learned."
> Here is your answer, chummer. Get those purveyors of GM confusion*grin*.
>
DIE!! DIE!! er... Give a fighting chance maybe?

> And NOOOOOOO! Not CALCULUS, Anything but CALCULUS! ARRRGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
> *shoots self with Manhunter-a cleaner death, trust me *grin**

Ah, somebody who took the easy way out! Wish I could. Unfortunately,
another three weeks of sheer torture at 4 hours/day and 5 days/week.

AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Tension breaker, had to be done...

> Bryan Prince

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