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Message no. 1
From: "J. Keith Henry" <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Spell types (2 of 2) (was Re: Centering vs Penalties)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:45:59 -0400
In a message dated 97-07-13 16:00:30 EDT, u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK (Spike)
writes:

>
> "Ground" is a very vague concept.
> If the FLOOR is made of artificial material, the T# for it is in the
double
> figures. If it's something like Tarmacaddam, the t# would still be high,
as
> would concrete.
>
> Only if the ground is made of rock or earth with the t# be low....
> --
>
Okay, this is the part 2 to my previous posting. T# for man-made stuff is
not necessarily high. Standard Concrete, even the Ferro-concrete, is not
higher than a 6, which is far better than the troll or the car (high body
metahuman or 8 for a standard vehicle). Reason being is simple. Concrete is
a mixture, not a polymer. mixtures do NOT require chemical change while a
polymer (or similar material) requires chemical change.

-Keith
Message no. 2
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Spell types (2 of 2) (was Re: Centering vs Penalties)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 11:49:42 +0100
J. Keith Henry said on 17:45/14 Jul 97...

> Okay, this is the part 2 to my previous posting. T# for man-made stuff is
> not necessarily high. Standard Concrete, even the Ferro-concrete, is not
> higher than a 6, which is far better than the troll or the car (high body
> metahuman or 8 for a standard vehicle). Reason being is simple. Concrete is
> a mixture, not a polymer. mixtures do NOT require chemical change while a
> polymer (or similar material) requires chemical change.

I'm not much of a bricklayer, but AFAIK concrete (and plaster too) sets
through a chemical reaction, not because of the water evaporating out of
it (unlike normal paint, for example). Also, "artificial" is not the same
as "polymer." Concrete is an artificial material, since it doesn't appear
in nature. However, it can be made by mixing natural materials, which is
simpler than the processes needed to make plastics, but it doesn't make
concrete any less non-natural IMHO.

For spells, though, it can be argued that concrete is closer to nature
than plastics because of this.

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