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Message no. 1
From: Rook <woneal@*******.NET>
Subject: Re: Spider Totme (was Re: Adept powers, Spidey-Adapt, and a
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 23:54:44 -0005
On 4 Jan 97 at 19:11, Tim Cooper wrote:

> On Sat, 4 Jan 1997, Bull wrote:
>
> > At 06:45 PM 1/4/97 -0800, you wrote:
> > Hmmmm, I thought the only place Spider was listed as a totem (with rules)
> > was in the back of the Grimmy, and that it was listed (along with Mantis) as
> > a NPC-only totem. While I'm sure it's been used as a PC totem in some
> > games, I've yet to decide what to do with it in my game, so have avoided it,
> > and wouldn't let a PC use it.
> >
> > However, I could be wrong. This is all from memory...
> >
> > Bull
> >
>
> ARRRRGGGGG!! Out of all of the books on my shelf, why are Bug City and the 2nd
> ed. Grimoire (the two that would be of any use..) among those that are still
> being borrowed!?!?!?
>
> (There's a game scheduled tonight, so I'll get them back and see what I
> can look up..)
>
> ~Tim

Perhaps I can be of some assistance here (I've always wanted to say that :)
The spider totem is listed as legal PC totem (at gamemaster's discretion) on
page 144 of Bug City and again on page 155 of Awakenings. So far as I am aware
there is no reference to the Spider totem in the Grimoire. I can check my
other source books (I have a complete collection) if you want, but I don't
remember it being listed anywhere else (except maybe for the UB
sourcebook/adventure, but I didn't see one when I flipped through it just
now.).
On a personal note, I kind of like the spider totem.


Rook
(woneal@*******.net)

--- When the Man with the Hoe rises up to judge this world after the Silence of the
centuries, let
him not find me lacking in merit.
Message no. 2
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Spider Totme (was Re: Adept powers, Spidey-Adapt, and a
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 01:35:51 -0500
At 11:54 PM 1/4/97 -0005, you wrote:

> Perhaps I can be of some assistance here (I've always wanted to say
that :)
>The spider totem is listed as legal PC totem (at gamemaster's discretion) on
>page 144 of Bug City and again on page 155 of Awakenings. So far as I am aware
>there is no reference to the Spider totem in the Grimoire. I can check my
>other source books (I have a complete collection) if you want, but I don't
>remember it being listed anywhere else (except maybe for the UB
>sourcebook/adventure, but I didn't see one when I flipped through it just
>now.).
>
Ok, that's where it was... I coudve sworn it was in teh Grimmy, but then,
it's been awhile since I read through that book...

Oh well... And Spider is available at GM's discretion. Ok, I knew it was a
normal, valid totem...

I stand correct and humbled...:):)

Or not...

> On a personal note, I kind of like the spider totem.
>
It could be interesting, but have you seen how it was applied in the third
(i think) Secrets of Power trilogy?? Wow... I read that long before I
encountered any bugs, and the first time I met a fleshform bug, I thought it
was connected to a Spider Shaman...

Way too buggy for my taste...

Bull

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Message no. 3
From: Rook <woneal@*******.NET>
Subject: Re: Spider Totme (was Re: Adept powers, Spidey-Adapt, and a
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 19:37:42 -0005
On 6 Jan 97 at 1:35, Bull wrote:


> > On a personal note, I kind of like the spider totem.
> >
> It could be interesting, but have you seen how it was applied in the third (i
> think) Secrets of Power trilogy?? Wow... I read that long before I
> encountered any bugs, and the first time I met a fleshform bug, I thought it
> was connected to a Spider Shaman...
>
> Way too buggy for my taste...
>
Or just as bad, remember the adventure Total Eclipse. There was a rather
nasty spider shaman in that one, plus a really nasty free spirit/possible
Horror. In general though, the spider totem presented in Bug City wasn't
"buggy" at all. It described spider as having "...many aspects, from
creator
to destroyer to trickster. She is whispering death, she is the brilliance of a
new dawn reflected through the dew on her web. She waits and she plots,
carefully and deliberately. Her web is intricate and delicate, yet sturdy, and
she strikes quickly and without remores." Sounds rather Machivellian to me, and
I always liked him (and in fact I own a copy of "The Prince" :). Too bad I
never play shaman.


--
Rook
(woneal@*******.net)

--- When the Man with the Hoe rises up to judge this world after the Silence of the
centuries, let
him not find me lacking in merit.

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