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Message no. 1
From: Baker Eric <Baker_Eric@***.COM>
Subject: Spirit question
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:00:28 -0500
Hi --
I have this memory about some sort of spirit that puts part of
its essence into a object, making it easier to control if you can get
hold of the object. I thought I read about this in the Grimore, but
have been unable to find it. Does anyone have any idea what I've gotten
this confused with and where I might have read it?
Any help appreciated,
-- Eric

Buffy: "So, how come Halloween is such a big yawner? I mean, do the
demons just hate how commercial it's become?"
Message no. 2
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Spirit question
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:20:30 +0000
> I have this memory about some sort of spirit that puts part of
> its essence into a object, making it easier to control if you can get
> hold of the object. I thought I read about this in the Grimore, but
> have been unable to find it. Does anyone have any idea what I've gotten
> this confused with and where I might have read it?

Free spirits may have the power of hidden Life. Since their fate is
controlled by the fate of the object, they'll probably do anything to
prevent its destruction. They will also, however, hate anyone with a
vengeance who threatens it. Worse yet, simply KNOWING what is their
hidden life makes you a potential threat, and depending on the
spirits personality....

This described in the Powers of Free Spirits section in the Grimmy2.

-=SwiftOne=-
Brett Borger
SwiftOne@***.edu
AAP Techie
Message no. 3
From: Baker Eric <Baker_Eric@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Spirit question
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:32:27 -0500
> Brett Borger said:
> Free spirits may have the power of hidden Life. Since their fate is
> controlled by the fate of the object, they'll probably do anything to
> prevent its destruction. They will also, however, hate anyone with a
> vengeance who threatens it. Worse yet, simply KNOWING what is their
> hidden life makes you a potential threat, and depending on the
> spirits personality....
>
> This described in the Powers of Free Spirits section in the Grimmy2.
>
That's it. Thanks. It's been driving me nuts for three days
now.
-- Eric
Buffy: "So, how come Halloween is such a big yawner? I mean, do the
demons just hate how commercial it's become?"
Message no. 4
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Spirit question
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 17:12:08 +0000
And verily, did Baker Eric hastily scribble thusly...
|
|Hi --
| I have this memory about some sort of spirit that puts part of
|its essence into a object, making it easier to control if you can get
|hold of the object. I thought I read about this in the Grimore, but
|have been unable to find it. Does anyone have any idea what I've gotten
|this confused with and where I might have read it

Look in the Grimoire under "Free Spirits".
Then look for the power "Hidden Life"

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Message no. 5
From: Tim Cooper <z-i-m@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Spirit question)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 22:23:08 EST
On Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:39:00 -0500 adonis <adonis@******.COM> writes:

>Is there anybody playing a Free Spirit as a PC?

No, but I've been thinking a lot about trying it out..

~Tim
Message no. 6
From: Ed equine@***********.com
Subject: Spirit Question
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 16:09:29 -0500
If a spirit is suppose to give 4 services do they need to be used before
the shaman goes inside or sunset/sunrise?

Ed
Message no. 7
From: Lars Ericson lericson@****.edu
Subject: Spirit Question
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 18:18:30 -0500
Ed wrote:
>
> If a spirit is suppose to give 4 services do they need to be used before
> the shaman goes inside or sunset/sunrise?
>
> Ed

In short, yes. You don't have to use them all, but you don't get to keep
them or have them carry over.


--
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Lars Ericson: Professional Vagabond
Smalley Research Group, Rice University
E-Mail: lericson@****.edu
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Life is like a Wankel Engine. In between the emptiness of boredom and
despair, and the compression of stress in one's life, there's that one
spark of enjoyment that keeps you going.
Message no. 8
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Spirit Question
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 11:21:52 +0200
According to Ed, at 16:09 on 29 Sep 99, the word on
the street was...

> If a spirit is suppose to give 4 services do they need to be used before
> the shaman goes inside or sunset/sunrise?

Yes. The spirit departs at the next sunrise/-set regardless of any
services it still owes the shaman. Even if it is in the middle of carrying
out a service when the sun goes down/comes up, the spirit immediately
drops it and leaves.

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Message no. 9
From: Ed equine@***********.com
Subject: Spirit Question
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:45:25 -0500
At 11:21 AM 9/30/99 +0200, you wrote:
>Yes. The spirit departs at the next sunrise/-set regardless of any
>services it still owes the shaman. Even if it is in the middle of carrying
>out a service when the sun goes down/comes up, the spirit immediately
>drops it and leaves.

Ok with that said...how about when the Shaman moves to a different
domain? Does the spirit just stop Guarding an area or attacking someone?

Since I am on spirits I guess I should ask this....if the spirit starts in
astral when do people see it as the form it is taking? When it goes
physical is what I am guessing. Right now I have the city spirit taking
the form of an old burned out car...but I messed up and said that every saw
this as soon as it was summoned. Oh well...if they say nothing then
nothing was done incorrectly. :)

Ed
Message no. 10
From: Lars Ericson lericson@****.edu
Subject: Spirit Question
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:31:10 -0500
Ed wrote:

> Ok with that said...how about when the Shaman moves to a different
> domain? Does the spirit just stop Guarding an area or attacking someone?

That's what make spirits more useful than elemental for non-combat
tasks. A spirit will continue to perform their last action (if it calls
for it) until sunrise/sunset even if the summoner leaves the domain.
However, the spirit cannot be used if the summoner returns to the
domain. They sever all communication ties when they leave.

> Since I am on spirits I guess I should ask this....if the spirit starts in
> astral when do people see it as the form it is taking? When it goes
> physical is what I am guessing. Right now I have the city spirit taking
> the form of an old burned out car...but I messed up and said that every saw
> this as soon as it was summoned. Oh well...if they say nothing then
> nothing was done incorrectly. :)

p. 186:
"When summoned, a nature spirit appears on the astral plane and
manifests just enough to be visible in the physical world as a ghostly
image."

To me this means that it has not manifested, but the people around it
can see it for what it is. Therefore, you were right in describing the
spirit to everyone, but it would also have been ghostly (i.e.
transluscent, slightly glowing, faded or lack of colors,
etc...).


--
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Lars Ericson: Professional Vagabond
Smalley Research Group, Rice University
E-Mail: lericson@****.edu
WWW: http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~lericson/

Life is like a Wankel Engine. In between the emptiness of boredom and
despair, and the compression of stress in one's life, there's that one
spark of enjoyment that keeps you going.
Message no. 11
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Spirit Question
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:44:56 +0200
According to Ed, at 8:45 on 30 Sep 99, the word on
the street was...

> Ok with that said...how about when the Shaman moves to a different
> domain? Does the spirit just stop Guarding an area or attacking someone?

The spirit vanishes when the shaman leaves its domain, unless it's been
given a task that is not finished yet. For example, if you order the
spirit to attack someone until that someone is dead, the spirit will
continue even after you've left the spirit's domain.

Keep in mind that "leaving" the domain can be done by conjuring a spirit
in another domain even if you don't physically move. For example, if
you're in a forest during a storm and have conjured a storm spirit, it
will disappear when you summon a forest spirit, because you're leaving its
domain.

> Since I am on spirits I guess I should ask this....if the spirit starts in
> astral when do people see it as the form it is taking?

Whatever you, as GM, feel is appropriate :)

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